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Old 12-11-2011, 10:29 AM
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Different strokes. I've used them for tile, paint and sheetrock and am happy with the outcome. Yes, most of them need supervision at all times, but that's true of a lot of people.

If you can send some of those guys down to Alabama, our farmers can sure use them ever since that immigration law caused a lot of them to leave the state. Nobody else will work the fields and crops like they can...and that has to be about the hardest work around.
Old 12-11-2011, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by skibum View Post
...and I respectfully disagree with Garrett as to 25 squares being an easy job in one day. Stripping, repapering (I'd use Grace, but thats a whole 'nother can of worms!), flashing, drip edge and re-shingle in one day? Not without an army! Also the possibility of necessary code up-grades (ventelation, decking, flashing, etc...), could complicate things dramatically.
Now I never said it was an easy job in one day, I said it was a full days work.

Up here a standard crew is about 5 - 6 guys....they are bloody roof monkeys, with or without body harnesses.
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Originally Posted by fishie1 View Post
A buddy in the construction business mentioned this may be why the estimate is so high. There are eaves and gables ( I think ) to deal with so it is more complicated than say a ranch or cape.

Would pics help?
Pictures wouldn't hurt, but I know what a gambrel roof is.

IMHO there is no complications in changing out shingles on a gambrel roof. All shingles are installed the same way it's just the approach to getting at the shingles is different....and that difference doesn't warrant 8 - 9 hundred dollars difference. But I don't know what pricing is like in your area.
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The first is starboard forward, second is port forward and last is starboard stern.






4 guys have looked at it and all recommend replace the whole thing - they say the cause of the shingles sliding or being blown off is that the shingles were not nailed properly.
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Wow!!! I stand corrected definetely not a mansard roof. Even easier!!!!!! Yes if not properlly nailed on the nail line gravity due to heat will cause a shingle to sag. I have seen it a thousand times. And also not having proper air pressure on a coil nailer will cause the same effects, to much pressure will cause the head of the nail to blow through the "structual " part of the shingle especially in cold weather installs and then turning warm in the spring and summer causing it "sag". DO IT YOURSELF!!! WE CAN TALK YA THROUGH IT I PROMISE!!!! Save your money!
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Originally Posted by bamaboy473 View Post
hmmm, don't know what you intended or what you mean (pun intended) by that remark, but know that Hispanics (Mexicans to you guys that also consider all Asians to be Japs) are among the hardest working people around.

What did you intend to mean by what you said?
nope, some are called gook's
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How'd you make out Fishie?
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Originally Posted by Garett View Post
Now I never said it was an easy job in one day, I said it was a full days work.

Up here a standard crew is about 5 - 6 guys....they are bloody roof monkeys, with or without body harnesses.


The guys I hired started at 7:30 and were driving away by 2:00. I lost count but I think they had a crew of 8 guys. 22 square with a 2 roof tear off. A few areas of rot but nothing too bad ( 3 sheets of ply were covered by contract) used maybe 1. New Timberline roof looks great compared to the old 3 tab. These shingles are "suppose" to have a mold inhibitor. Front of my house faces true north so I really hope I wont be seeing any black mold running down the shingles.
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Sounds like a good job. Good to get that extra weight off the roof too. You'll get longer life out of the shingle. Make sure they they ice and water barrier up the 1st 6' ft from the edge to prevent ice damming.

How much did they charge per sq?
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Originally Posted by Ackdog View Post
How'd you make out Fishie?
We're waiting on more quote. We have pretty much decided to do the whole roof and have been luck weather wise this last week. Quotes have been all over the place for what seems like identical jobs. All have positve local references too.

Would like to be complete in time for Santa to land but we'll see.
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If you are doing the entire roof, strip it down to the deck, tar paper, ice and water shield incl any valleys, new jacks and boots, drip edge and make sure of proper venting of the attic (ridge, soffit, gable etc). Proper venting goes a long way for longevity.
Architectural vs 3 tab makes a difference in looks too. Don't do a 20-25 yr shingle; 30-40 yr is money well spent.

Hope Santa has a nice landing area.

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