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Old 12-10-2011, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by folly basser View Post
and NO mexicans
hmmm, don't know what you intended or what you mean (pun intended) by that remark, but know that Hispanics (Mexicans to you guys that also consider all Asians to be Japs) are among the hardest working people around.

What did you intend to mean by what you said?
Old 12-10-2011, 07:25 PM
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I would think the insurance co will be a great help here.
Old 12-10-2011, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by bamaboy473 View Post
hmmm, don't know what you intended or what you mean (pun intended) by that remark, but know that Hispanics (Mexicans to you guys that also consider all Asians to be Japs) are among the hardest working people around.

What did you intend to mean by what you said?

I agree 100 % (and just for the record you can't agree anymore...) with this statement. Hard working people, and no bitching. Also almost had to kill a couple of their lazy ass gangsta kids yesterday. I am locked and loaded on the couch right now waiting for the rest of the gang to show up. The others are in jail.
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Crips I can have steel installed for 12G on 12 - 13 sq. while I'm drinking beer in the shade.

IMO $1,200 for those types of repairs is gouging you Hard!

Oh, doing a 12 - 13 sq roof is not a "full" day in my books. A good crew should be done and cleaned up well before 4 and that's with 3/4's a hour lunch. A full day is doing 25 sq.
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Rip and replace is 400 bucks a square up here.
Old 12-11-2011, 06:03 AM
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Contact Ins co,you cant replace a dozen shingles on a 14yr old roof and expect it to not look like sh!t,the shingles are weathered and faded by now,replace entire roof
Old 12-11-2011, 07:24 AM
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I am being told that the style of the house, Dutch Colonial, it contributing to the hight rate. The gambrel roof makes the job more complicated.
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Originally Posted by fishie1 View Post
I am being told that the style of the house, Dutch Colonial, it contributing to the hight rate. The gambrel roof makes the job more complicated.
Who is telling you this?

Yeah so, what do they want everything super simple?
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Originally Posted by fishie1 View Post
I am being told that the style of the house, Dutch Colonial, it contributing to the hight rate. The gambrel roof makes the job more complicated.

Sounds like complete BS to me. You must have a Ferrari or Rolls Royce sitting in the driveway. Or, there is more work to be done than what you speak of.
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Originally Posted by Garett View Post
Who is telling you this?

Yeah so, what do they want everything super simple?

A buddy in the construction business mentioned this may be why the estimate is so high. There are eaves and gables ( I think ) to deal with so it is more complicated than say a ranch or cape.

Would pics help?
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Im also a contractor here in Va beach, va. Thats a rip off. Find someone else who will do it for a more conservative price. On a walkable pitch there no reason why a skilled shingle mechanic could not do that repair in about an 1 1/2 hours. We can buy single shingles at our local Home Depot for $1.89 a piece. I would personally charge about $350 to $400 dollars for a repair of that size. DONT DO IT !!!! If you pay attention as to how the existing shingles are installed you should be able to do it yourself. Good luck in your repair!!!
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Originally Posted by fishie1 View Post
...Would pics help?
Yes. In college I worked on a roofing crew and from my experience it sounds like a bit of a money grab. Sight unseen I'd say $600. If you're DIYer, it can be done much cheaper and you'll have piece of mind it's done right.

Good luck.
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The roof he is describing I would imagine has three pitches on each side - top pitch (walkable I assume), middle pitch (probabkly steep requiring planking), and the third "dutch Kick," again probably walkable. The transitions need to be considered - the roof is tougher than a simple single pitch.
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...and I respectfully disagree with Garrett as to 25 squares being an easy job in one day. Stripping, repapering (I'd use Grace, but thats a whole 'nother can of worms!), flashing, drip edge and re-shingle in one day? Not without an army! Also the possibility of necessary code up-grades (ventelation, decking, flashing, etc...), could complicate things dramatically.
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Originally Posted by DEVLDOG View Post
Contact Ins co,you cant replace a dozen shingles on a 14yr old roof and expect it to not look like sh!t,the shingles are weathered and faded by now,replace entire roof
Just curious what would contacting the insurance company do. Would'nt they just say fix it and pay for it yourself?
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Insurance will send out an appraiser who may determine the entire roof needs replacing. Many cut a check on the spot, and then any unforseen problems are billed on the back end. He would be protecting himself by having an appraiser survey the roof. With the damage he has described, my bet is he will get a new one. There is considerable profit in roofing - between what it costs and what insurance pays. That's how deductibles get "covered."
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Get multiple estimates you will be surprised at all the different pricing. There was a difference of $1800. between the highest and lowest estimates I received.
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Originally Posted by skibum View Post
The roof he is describing I would imagine has three pitches on each side - top pitch (walkable I assume), middle pitch (probabkly steep requiring planking), and the third "dutch Kick," again probably walkable. The transitions need to be considered - the roof is tougher than a simple single pitch.
Mansard roof
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Originally Posted by bamaboy473 View Post
hmmm, don't know what you intended or what you mean (pun intended) by that remark, but know that Hispanics (Mexicans to you guys that also consider all Asians to be Japs) are among the hardest working people around.

What did you intend to mean by what you said?

they're only hard working to people that do not know what hard work is.
guys that use a computer and ink to do their work. probably someone just like you since you think they're so hard working.

they have a TERRIBLE reputation for taking shortcuts and doing shoddy work that will have to be re-done correctly.
no good construction crew wants to work behind them because it makes our jobs much more difficult.
and the ILLEGALS that comprise much of the PC hispanic workforce are the biggest factor in the degrading of the construction pay scale.
the only winner is the General contractor that uses them and pays a sub standard wage for sub standard work.

try calling that mexican crew back 6 months from now for a warranty issue- guess what- no findy the mexi so no warranty for the worky.

now- before someone calls me a racist- it's not about race- none of us in the construction trades has a problem with LEGAL IMMIGRANT WORKERS, but thats only about 10% of the ones you see.

we work side by side with the hispanics all the time and my guys will work them into the dirt every time and do it with first time quality.

THAT'S WHAT I MEANT.
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Originally Posted by folly basser View Post
they're only hard working to people that do not know what hard work is.
guys that use a computer and ink to do their work. probably someone just like you since you think they're so hard working.

they have a TERRIBLE reputation for taking shortcuts and doing shoddy work that will have to be re-done correctly.
no good construction crew wants to work behind them because it makes our jobs much more difficult.
and the ILLEGALS that comprise much of the PC hispanic workforce are the biggest factor in the degrading of the construction pay scale.
the only winner is the General contractor that uses them and pays a sub standard wage for sub standard work.

try calling that mexican crew back 6 months from now for a warranty issue- guess what- no findy the mexi so no warranty for the worky.

now- before someone calls me a racist- it's not about race- none of us in the construction trades has a problem with LEGAL IMMIGRANT WORKERS, but thats only about 10% of the ones you see.

we work side by side with the hispanics all the time and my guys will work them into the dirt every time and do it with first time quality.

THAT'S WHAT I MEANT.

Amen brother!!!!!! Im not racist either. I completely agree with you. You are stating straight facts!!!! Sorry didnt mean to hi-jack thread!!

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