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Old 12-07-2011, 12:15 PM
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In Sunday’s 38-35 loss to the unbeaten Packers, Coughlin lost two replay challenges and he firmly believes he should have won the first one.
Coughlin said FOX TV produced the picture and he was alerted to it because general manager “Jerry Reese was carrying it around.’’ In the first quarter shot, tight end Jake Ballard appears to have his right knee touch down just inside the end zone before sliding out of bounds. It would have been a 20-yard touchdown pass from Eli Manning on third down to put the Giants ahead 14-7. Instead, Lawrence Tynes hit a 38-yard field goal and the Giants took a 10-7 lead.








That is a 4 point swing !!!!!!



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Well I'm not bias here but that play was shown from a few different angles, and IMHO he was clearly out. Remember the review has to have conclusive proof to over rule, That angle you posted is not conclusive proof. In some of the other angles he was clearly out. But the second challenge could have gone either way. It was not clear to me that Jennings had complete control, but the review said otherwise.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shu...rn=nfl-wp13178
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They lost within the rules and context of the game.

Translation: they lost.

Get over it.


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there were no views that conclusively showed him out, close - yes. But this photo proves that he was in. 4 point swing ?
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The Giants gave the Packers all they could handle though. It was a good game. Also good luck to your team PJJR, I hope they make the playoffs.
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Yes. Rodgers just would have been faced with a different situation and would have pulled it out a different way.

Hey Snapper, can we have two gods?
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See if you can find that replay, showing it from the side view, that tells it all. They played it Sunday, and you could clearly tell from that angle. I will see if I can find it. From your front angle you can not tell if he is still in the air.
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From what I recall of that play the pic above shows when his knee was still 6in above the ground. It seems to be a bit of an optical illusion in the still pic above. When they show it from the side the knee hits clearly out of bounds and you can see the little rubber pebbles start to kick up when he hits the ground.
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side view ???


And thanks for the compliment on the Giants play. They were much better than I expected.
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yes the Pack is getting a lot of REF help to stay unbeaten!
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They would not be undefeated if it was actually a catch.

He clearly got 1 knee inbounds. Doesn't he need 2 knees/feet/legs in bounds to count as a catch? I'm not even seeing a knee + a foot. If he was in a standing position and the pic showed 1 toe in bounds and the other 1 foot off the ground, would that be conclusive proof and make the coach sick to his stomach?

http://www.livestrong.com/article/27...out-of-bounds/

For a reception to be made legally, a receiver must catch the ball and come down with both feet clearly in bounds. If the receiver jumps up for a pass and catches it but comes down with one foot inbounds and then the other foot comes down out of bounds, the pass is ruled incomplete. In college and high school football, a receiver only has to get one foot inbounds. If the NFL receiver gets even a toe on the sideline, the pass is still ruled incomplete.

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For the Record: Before the comments flow in about him not having two feet in, one knee counts as two feet. Now that that’s settled,

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Originally Posted by PJJR View Post
For the Record: Before the comments flow in about him not having two feet in, one knee counts as two feet. Now that that’s settled,

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Yes. Rodgers just would have been faced with a different situation and would have pulled it out a different way.

Hey Snapper, can we have two gods?
Exactly,they play 4 quarters...right? 1st quarter means nothing in the NFL these days. I am happy Giants kept this game close as a 7pt home underdog tho
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Originally Posted by PJJR View Post
For the Record: Before the comments flow in about him not having two feet in, one knee counts as two feet. Now that that’s settled,

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huh, didn't know the one knee deal. Why wouldn't Coughlin have argued that, or did he? All the discussion from the booth was about his 2nd knee landing outside.
Of all plays, if I recall, the Pac got a 3rd and 10 defensive holding play or something like that on their last drive@ 45 yrd line that seemed cheesy. The 1st down there seemed to be the NY death rattle.
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Only Jersus knows if he was really in or not.
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Originally Posted by Shag View Post
Yes. Rodgers just would have been faced with a different situation and would have pulled it out a different way.

Hey Snapper, can we have two gods?

Negative, sir.

There can be only one:

Drew Brees


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Well here it is:

The NFL rules article 3 states "A forward pass is complete (by the offense) or intercepted (by the defense) if a player, who is inbounds:
(a) secures control of the ball in his hands or arms prior to the ball touching the ground; and
(b) touches the ground inbounds with both feet or with any part of his body other than his hands.

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Originally Posted by Snapper Head View Post
Negative, sir.

There can be only one:

Drew Brees


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Brees may be "god" but he ain't no Aaron Rodgers


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