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Old 11-10-2011, 12:10 PM
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Anyone supporting Joes innocence in this is just as sick as the whole bunch at penn st.
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Old 11-10-2011, 12:14 PM
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Joe: Son, so what you are telling me is you walked in on Jerry anally raping a 10 year old boy.
Mike: That is what I am saying. He had the boy pinned against the wall in the showers. Should I call the police, what should I do, I am freaking out.
Joe: No. No. No. Don't call the police. There would be this big investigation. It woudl not be good for football.
Mike: But what about protecting the child.
Joe: I don't want to lose my job. Do you?
Mike: I don't have a job. I am a grad assistant.
Joe: Oh, yea.I forgot. Well maybe we can change that. How would you like to be an assistant coach?
Mike: Oh, yea, that would great, but what am I going to do?
Joe: We will make you a receiver coach or something.
Mike: No, no, Joe I am talking about what I saw.....Jerry raping the little boy.
Joe: (puzzled look)
Mike: In the locker room, you know the kid.
Joe: oh yea, right. Well let's tell the AD that there was another indecent with Jerry. They already know all about Jerry. They can keep this quite. Let's just worry about football, that's what keeps food on my table, and that's what will put food on your table, not protecting kids from Jerry.

thats all hear say. one persons word against another with nothing supporting what each other is saying. never holds water in court.
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Good GOD in Greensboro!!! You are correct "legally" Joe did the minimum. Morally,he did nothing. If he broke the case open 10yrs ago he would have been...73ish?? OK,lets say he did get fired,hypothetically, you dont think at 73 he has enough money "to provide for his family"??? Well if thats the case hes Effed up in his financial responsiblities and Morally!! I was wondering lastnite what kind of people would be out there protesting..... And Joes famous words outside his house....Lets beat Nebraska!!LOL.....Mild retardation
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Originally Posted by AnglerFX View Post
i beg the differ. after all this mess is not about joe but his uppers. not joe remember that. and a grand jury? do you know how the court system works...anyone can get a grand jury indictment its not hard to do especially when you cant defend yourself at the hearing that your not aloud to go to.
Yes, this is about Joe, specifically because of what he did NOT do.

Yes, I know how the court system works. I mentioned reading the finding of the Grand Jury so you could better reference the specifics of the incident, so that perhaps it would change your point of view.

It's clear that won't happen. For the sake of the children, I hope you never get credible information that your boss is raping kids.


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people have no respect anymore in america. This country is going down the pooper and its a shame
So keeping quiet on child rape is the "respectful" thing to do and looking out for #1 is OK?

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priests make sexually advances on kids all the time. I think the world knows this one.
So that makes it OK somehow?
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Old 11-10-2011, 12:17 PM
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you personally dont know joes money financial position. you dont know if he gives money away to certain charities, or pays for kids in his family schools or what have you. you really dont know. so you cant point the finger and say he makes all this money. maybe he does but from their you dont know where it goes. im sure he does support his family in a big way after all he does live a very very modest lifestyle. As most would blow it.
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So keeping quiet on child rape is the "respectful" thing to do and looking out for #1 is OK?

So that makes it OK somehow?
did someone say it was. im pretty sure i didnt.
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Originally Posted by Snapper Head View Post
Yes, this is about Joe, specifically because of what he did NOT do.

Yes, I know how the court system works. I mentioned reading the finding of the Grand Jury so you could better reference the specifics of the incident, so that perhaps it would change your point of view.

It's clear that won't happen. For the sake of the children, I hope you never get credible information that your boss is raping kids.


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like i said that grand jury indictment is all hear say. one person words against what will soon to be another.
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Originally Posted by AnglerFX View Post
like i said that grand jury indictment is all here say. one person words against what will soon to be another.



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morley, i see your point i know. But put your self in his shoes. Would you risk your self being fired? And not being able to provide for your family?
Speaking of hearsay.


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Originally Posted by AnglerFX View Post
you personally dont know joes money financial position. you dont know if he gives money away to certain charities, or pays for kids in his family schools or what have you. you really dont know. so you cant point the finger and say he makes all this money. maybe he does but from their you dont know where it goes. im sure he does support his family in a big way after all he does live a very very modest lifestyle. As most would blow it.
Well,this will kill Joe prolly. His health aint good. Dusky prolly feels hes done nothing wrong as these people are Effed up in the head.So suicide isnt even an option for this creep. So he'll go to prison hopefully and Bubba that played for LineBacker U is gonna butt plug him till the day he dies of Herpes or something gross. Very sad ending for a University that seemed honest and full of Integrity...Very shocking. May they all rot
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What the Joe Paterno scandal and the Penn State riots say about America

http://biggovernment.com/waroot/2011...about-america/

As I write this commentary, Joe Paterno has been fired as Penn State football coach — effective immediately. Thousands of Penn State college students are in the streets, angry, sad, disillusioned, emotionally wrecked, overturning cars, and chanting Joe Paterno’s name. The riot police are in place to prevent the situation from getting out of hand. Those aren’t hoodlums with no hope and no future. They are educated, middle class, salt-of-the-earth Pennsylvania college kids attending a well-respected university. What is wrong with this picture? What does it say about America?

Let’s start with the obvious. Why aren’t those educated college kids out protesting on behalf of the little boys who were allegedly sexually assaulted by a longtime Penn State assistant coach? Has America so lost its compass? These kids are in love with a coach because…he’s a celebrity? Because he wins football games? Because he wins football games all else is forgiven? If someone is a celebrity, nothing else matters? We are lucky this isn’t Kim Kardashian or Paris Hilton involved in child rape. We’d almost certainly witness mobs burn Los Angeles to the ground to show their support for their favorite celeb-turned-child-rapist. A sad commentary on all that is wrong with America.

Then there’s the actual conduct of Coach Joe Paterno. Here is a good moral man who has spent a lifetime molding the lives of young men at Penn State. Yet back in 2002 he heard from a graduate assistant that his longtime assistant coach was having sex in the shower with a 10 year old boy. Paterno reported the incident to his superiors, then never mentioned it again? How strange is that? He never thought to protect the 10-year old boy? Never thought the boy’s life (or certainly mental state) might be in danger? Never thought to find out who the boy was and talk to him? Never thought that stopping this sexual deviant might possibly save other boys? Never thought to confront his friend of 30 years and ask him what happened? Never thought to follow up with his superiors to ask about the young boys? Never even considered going to the police?

How could this happen in my America? Is everyone truly mad? Is winning football games more important than a 10-year old boy’s safety? How about dozens of innocent little boys? Is protecting a respected institution more important than stopping a child rapist? Why would educated responsible administrators with 6-figure and 7-figure salaries make the same decision to cover-up a heinous crime as priests and bishops and cardinals for the Catholic Church?

Did they not consider “what if that was my little boy in the shower with that 60-year-old pervert?” Or is the reputation of Penn State worth more than a little boy’s innocence? How about a little boy’s life? Did anyone consider that those boys might someday commit suicide from the shame of what was done to them? Is the world really that selfish, thoughtless, and uncaring?

Keep in mind a key fact as we all judge Joe Paterno. The coach/pervert/rapist in question had an office in the Penn State football complex since his retirement in 1999. This incident took place in 2002. So Coach Paterno was told a man with an office in his building was using the football locker room to sexually assault little boys. And for the next 10 years he let the rapist/pervert keep his office in the building? For the next 10 years he let the man continue to conduct business in his office down the hall? He walked by his friend’s office and never thought to confront him about the incident? He walked by that office and never thought about the little boys? He walked by that office and never once thought to follow up with his superiors?

And the students of Penn State think this is a role model? A God? They want to waste their precious time protesting, chanting Paterno’s name, rioting, and destroying property in the name of a man who never thought to protect little boys being abused, molested and raped in his football facility? There is something very wrong, something very rancid in America in 2011.

By the way, would anyone be protesting, crying, chanting, or rioting in the name of a losing football coach? So this is about winning. If you win football games, anything goes? Even the cover-up of child rape is okay? These student protestors are educated, salt-of-the-earth, middle class Pennsylvania kids with the values of a prison chain gang. They learned their values and morals where exactly? MTV? Beavis & Butthead? The Kardashians? Watching Internet porn? It’s all frightening and a sign of the rapid decline of America.

Lastly, I’m betting none of those kids either knows of, or cares, about the important news of the day — Italy joining Greece on the verge of complete economic Armageddon. Or how about the impending collapse of the entire European Union due to perhaps the worst financial crisis in world history. All of which caused an almost 400 point drop on Wall Street. Some believe we now face the very real prospect of a Great Depression II, food lines, tent cities, and a crisis no college student alive today has ever imagined. Their future upon graduation from Penn State may have just taken a turn from dismal to bleak.

But hey…why should that matter? Those students have more important things to worry about: Penn State has a football game against Nebraska on Saturday. This is the bread-and-circus generation that expects government to take care of them from cradle to grave. Now we all understand why.

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you personally dont know joes money financial position. you dont know if he gives money away to certain charities, or pays for kids in his family schools or what have you. you really dont know. so you cant point the finger and say he makes all this money. maybe he does but from their you dont know where it goes. im sure he does support his family in a big way after all he does live a very very modest lifestyle. As most would blow it.
No but I can point my finger and say he owed it to those children to do the right thing.
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i think we all need to wait, and not pass judgment until all the facts are out. Didn't we learn anything from the Duke Lacrosse scandal? Not saying anyone is guilty or innocent, but the trustees should be fired by their own standards.
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This is why jury trials scare the chit out of me. Seriously! It's really not their fault, but some of our "peers" out there just aren't real bright. And I knew we would find one of them sooner or later. Anyway....
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And FYI AnglerFX..Paternos salary is public info obviously,what he does with it isnt. Hes making over a Million a yr the prez of PSU is making 800ish....So your financial arguement is as ridiculous as your other arguements
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If Paterno was even half a man he would have had the school and police authorities sitting in his office when he called Scumdusky in for a 'chat' IMMEDIATELY after hearing of the incident from McQuery. It would have ended there and no more rapes would have occurred and Paterno would have never even been considered for firing.

Scumdusky deserves to be mutilated and destroyed.

Paterno and the rest of the gutless do nothing to preserve themselves scumbags deserve to be dishonorably banished into history or jail.
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This is why jury trials scare the chit out of me. Seriously! It's really not their fault, but some of our "peers" out there just aren't real bright. And I knew we would find one of them sooner or later. Anyway....

No actually i am educated and know not to point the finger without undisputed evidence. Actually I am also from NJ possibly the most corrupt state in the nation. From the police to the judges. NJ is a known cesspool. Glad I got out of my town Marlton.
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Read my above post;
What the Joe Paterno scandal and the Penn State riots say about America


You're part of the problem.
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