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Old 11-09-2011, 05:12 AM
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Aight I have a little problem with some wiring I was going over my house being I am planning on selling it and found something that don't look like it passes code, this was installed by a pro, I really don't want to put the picture up due to it looks like a very BIG code broken it someone could send me a pm I will send you a pic of it in a text and you tell me if I am right or wrong, thatnk yall
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Old 11-09-2011, 07:22 AM
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I'm a builder send me a pic via pm and i'll take a look at it.
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Why not just post it, you are sure to get more responses. Even if it is a major code violation; do you think the electrical police are lurking on THT?
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psst - he's UNDERCOVER ELECTRICAL POLICE
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Ok I will post it it's just I am trying to keep from someone one getting in deep trouble being what I have been told by a employee that works with this company that it was a standard and I have been told by a fire chief that it is a major violation
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psst - he's UNDERCOVER ELECTRICAL POLICE
Ya, he had nothing better to do after the Jimmy Carter Thermostat Police got fired (It's all Bush's fault)!

Seriously, why wouldn't you post a pic? If it is a code violation, I'd assume you're going to have it fixed. Either way, I doubt your local code enforcer is going to be on THT and know who you are.

As a matter of fact, now that you've voiced a concern, you would have to disclose it to a potential buyer or face a possible lawsuit.
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Ok I will post it it's just I am trying to keep from someone one getting in deep trouble being what I have been told by a employee that works with this company that it was a standard and I have been told by a fire chief that it is a major violation

If an electrician has a standard operating procedure that is indeed a major code violation, then someone does deserve to be in deep trouble.
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Originally Posted by davedowneast View Post

... I doubt your local code enforcer is going to be on THT and know who you are.


That's true. I have it on very good authority there are really only two members of THT, each with a whole bunch of user aliases.
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Originally Posted by beh11685 View Post
Ok I will post it it's just I am trying to keep from someone one getting in deep trouble being what I have been told by a employee that works with this company that it was a standard and I have been told by a fire chief that it is a major violation
What the fire cheif thinks is a major violation is likely not a violation.
Does all electrical work require inspection and approval upon completion?
If the violation was there when inspected, the onus is on the electrical inspector.
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Old 11-09-2011, 11:19 AM
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What i was thinking is if there is a jumper running from the meter box there needed to be a breaker some where between the box and what is being powered by it this is just me, and if i have stepped on any toes by not jumping out there and posting the pictures first i am sorry i am just looking for advice for this, and if i need to take further action and yes this was installed by the city i live in
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Ok I give up, what exactly is that thing hooked up to?

And I'd agree that that looks like an absurd (and dangerous) way to power it but maybe there is some loophole that makes it ok?

Edit: Huh, it is an external, 12v battery backed up power supply. News to me but actually looks pretty clever. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16842102091

How would anyone justify plugging a 12v transformer directly into their meter can?
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Old 11-09-2011, 11:55 AM
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It is powering and back up power source that controls my cable, Internet, and telephone that is also controlled by the city, it dose have power running from the meter box to the back up power box which runs to the cable, Internet and phon hub that then goes into the house everything is digital so it's got to have power running to it no questions asked but there still should be a breaker between the meter and the other box
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What is the labeling on that meter extentsion-cylinder?
Looks like it was all inspected and approved per the green seals.That meter extention might be a back feed preventor.

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Old 11-09-2011, 12:31 PM
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I will have to take a look at the sticker on the side of the meter and see what it says
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Thanks for the pics! I've never seen anything like it. If that does in fact connect directly to the meter, I believe national codes say you have to have a way to shut it off while servicing. You can go X # of feet from the meter, then there must be a shut off. Maybe this thing has some kind of exclusion, but I don't know how.

You should be able to get the info here http://www.cyberpowersystems.com/pro...equipment.html
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Never seen that before but I bet there is some 1/2 assed code written in your town for that hook up.

Reminds me if a buddy who was buying a house and the feeder to the meter was all weathered and failed home inspection. Owner spent 3 hours and who knows how many rolls of electrical tape wrapping it up. (15'+). When I saw it I laughed my ass off. Sale almost fell thru because owner was pissed after all that work he still had to replace it.
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looks like the wire on the outside is the feed and power source for the battery back up, no problem there.
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In the county where I live, the inspector would have a good laugh after seeing that...followed by him telling you to remove it.
Depends on enforcement in your area.
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That is indeed unique - just curious why all this back-up cable stuff is outside to begin with - we only have a back up battery built into the cable phone modem. I still don't get why you need back-up for the- TV and internet aspects of the cable?

Anyway - good Luck Mod 2 BTW is a building inspector somewhere in North carolina....
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