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Old 11-07-2011, 02:48 PM
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I am going to get our 6 month old Golden started on some (semi) serious training. He already sits, heals, comes here, etc. I've had 5 before and really never used "treats" but have had a couple old timers tell me to use dried liver to help with the training. I know the people who show dogs will use liver to keep their attention but never heard of using it to teach retrieving.

Does anybody here use dried liver? If so, do you de-hydrate it yourself or get the de-hydrated store bought stuff from one of the pet stores?

Or, anybody else have any other ideas for another treat to use?

Or, anybody here think using treats is BS?

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A good ear rub has worked for me. Not a lab though, black mouth cur. Different dog. Loves the lake, hates the hose. Crazy bitch.
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Old 11-07-2011, 02:53 PM
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mine likes ice as a treat or just a dog food a piece at a time. She is a black lab now 1 year old
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Our lab Abby is 1 year old, and likes the frisbee. She will return it every time. Loves praise.
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Most pet stores sell bags of treats for training. They're real small little bits so dog doesn't get full.

We also get Pup-Peroni and it breaks real small.

Also, I remember Costco used to sell dried liver cubes.
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Clicker and a Goldfish cheese cracker and my new pup will almost stand on his nose........
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I used hotdogs cut into tiny peices.
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Small carrots.......healthier than any of the dog treats you can buy
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Next time you are at the store, buy a bag of frozen green beans. Just take a handfull out when training and rinse under warm water until thawed.

I'm not kidding. A lab (any dog really) will love green beans and they don't need the other crap.
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Damn, thanks for all the replies. Little Otis likes ice and we use the Science Diet dental food for occasional treats. I was looking for a treat that I would use only when teaching him the retrieve. Again, thanks for the ideas.
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Damn, thanks for all the replies. Little Otis likes ice and we use the Science Diet dental food for occasional treats. I was looking for a treat that I would use only when teaching him the retrieve. Again, thanks for the ideas.
I don't think a dog knows the difference with any of it except smell. They are just happy that you are giving them something
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Originally Posted by bikem View Post
I used hotdogs cut into tiny peices.
Corollary to above:

My brother used small bits of baloney. It was a kick seeing him take a piece of baloney out of the fridge in front of the dog. Then he would remove the dog from the room and put the baloney somewhere in the room. (Behind a table, on a shelf etc) The we'd amuse ourselves watching the dog find the treat. He always eventually got it.

A small piece of a hot dog, or baloney about the size of a postage stamp is a treat a dog will remember all his life!
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Old 11-08-2011, 09:39 AM
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Shag,
You are correct about liver (bait) for showing.
I used to get beef liver load it up with garlic powder, onion powder, etc.
Bake overnight at 2ooF When training it is easy to carry a piece and break of little chuncks. The nice thin is it won't spoil or get mooshed in you pocket.
It is best to only use the bait for training, not as everyday treats.
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Small carrots.......healthier than any of the dog treats you can buy
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Treats are bribes to get your dog to do something that you want him/her to do. You are the Alpha in the relationship, so you must command what you want your dog to do. I have never used treats to train any of my dogs. Positive reinforcment is what they yearn for. Save your money, train your own dog and both of you can learn together what a great pair you can make.
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Uh, he is training his own dog.
Treats are positive reinforcement. Positive reinforcement for responding to a comand.
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Treats should only be used until the dog understands what is being asked of him. Once he sits on command every time, treats can/should be discontinued. You have to decide how long to continue. The same goes with every new thing you are trying to train him on. After 2-?? whatever training sessions, it should become praise only or a pat, scratch ect.

Treats can become a double edged sword. Some dogs become conditioned to the treat and will not do anything without one. Or, they become so accustomed to the "treat" it no longer IS a treat.

Every dog is different. Monitor pups attitude toward the treats and decide on your own when to cut it off.
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my golden eats shoes and dear dropping.... they are all a treat to him. I'd suggest a nugget of his/her normal food.
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Originally Posted by MAXIMUM B View Post
It is best to only use the bait for training, not as everyday treats.
Yep, that's why I was trying to differentiate the treat for training from the every day ice, etc.

A little off topic guys but MAXIMUM B used to own and show some world class Newfies. They have one now that has even helped train little Otis.
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Ever notice what the LEO does when his drug dog marks? Throws him his favorite toy along with praise. Toy/treat same thing. Only gets rewarded with it when the dog is "working" Not in normal play times.
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