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Old 11-05-2011, 06:14 AM
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Ok we have lots of threads on this and everyone agrees we have seemed to become to an extent a nation of blamers and whiners .

The damn Governor and some fn Fire chief were just on blaming CL&P for the lack of power. The Chief actually said they would hold CL&P responsible for any deaths from house that are not accessible to the firetrucks (duh how about you and your town clearing trees like we do here?).

We have crews all over the nation here and they are working 16 hr. days. It was essentially an unprecedented storm in terms of tree damage and timing and many other regards. But here is what really irks me.

Many of us choose to live in New England and especially the rural areas for the environment which is typically winter snow and a lot with trees right up to the houses,all along the roads and basically trees of all shapes sizes and color everywhere! Its what makes the area attractive! You can hardly see power lines in many communities as they are hidden among the trees, Sure there is some trimming to keep it reasonably reliable and to allow for maintenance...But what the heck do people expect when we have a big ice storm or early snow???? DUH !!!!!!!

These folks in the beautiful properties are the same folks that want low taxes low utility rates and somehow think they are entitled to uninterrupted services.

What ever happened to gratitude. Hey folks this is how most of the world lives - no video games - large screen TV's and no heat and little water or hot and cold . Wa wa you have to sleep in 40 degree weather or have to go to a local shelter because you didn't plan ahead.

I guess when you spend your entire life sheltered by your over doting parents, and work 12 hrs a day behind a computer screen you just have no fn idea of what reality is.

Personally after viewing first hand the damage I am totally amazed that we are gonna be anywhere near 99% restored in one week. Its only a matter of time that the big one will come and it will be a month. And, you know what the largest return volume item after Irene in retail stores was???....batteries. They will never learn.

A little bit of gratitude and humility can go a long way for us all.

Sorry for the rant - and whining about the whiners..

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Old 11-05-2011, 06:25 AM
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Preach on brother, they have cut the crap out of trees around here before the storm season and we didn't lose power once during the little tropical storms this year. I'm all for planning ahead and trimming trees. The only thing I missed was the all you can eat surf and turf when the power goes out, and by surf I mean tuna steaks and wahoo and turf is dear meat.
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Preach on brother, they have cut the crap out of trees around here before the storm season and we didn't lose power once during the little tropical storms this year. I'm all for planning ahead and trimming trees. The only thing I missed was the all you can eat surf and turf when the power goes out, and by surf I mean tuna steaks and wahoo and turf is dear meat.

Yea I suspect they WILL require more trimming and clearing after this. Won't bother me - I am well back form the road. Plus our town just happens to have several families of loggers and tree services that have all the right equipment to get the roads cleared real quick.

Our surf and turfs were basically neighborhood cookouts from freezer clean outs. My daughter lives in Tishimingo - they are a fairly wooded area and had quite an ice storm last year if I remember - but I think they also had lost power for a spell. I do remember school was closed for almost a week. My boat actually came form Gautier.
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Well I hope cooler head prevail on the whole power company issue. Were getting ready for Alabama/LSU game tonight. Going to get some Oysters and maybe smoke something. (on the smoker).
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Malloy is an idiot.

The helpless people in CT drive me nuts. I love how half my facebook friends were complaining so much.

Want to know what one of my first purchases was a few months after that huge noreaster (we were without power for a week) in 2009? A generator. 260 bucks, powers tv's, fridge, heat, etc.

I love how people just love to be victims. Go without a cell phone bill for 3 months and there's the money for a generator people.
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Originally Posted by LI Sound Grunt View Post
Ok we have lots of threads on this and everyone agrees we have seemed to become to an extent a nation of blamers and whiners .

The damn Governor and some fn Fire chief were just on blaming CL&P for the lack of power. The Chief actually said they would hold CL&P responsible for any deaths from house that are not accessible to the firetrucks (duh how about you and your town clearing trees like we do here?).

We have crews all over the nation here and they are working 16 hr. days. It was essentially an unprecedented storm in terms of tree damage and timing and many other regards. But her is what really irks me.

Many of us choose to live in New England and especially the rural areas for the environment which is typically winter snow and a lot with trees right up to the houses,all along the roads and basically trees of all shapes sizes and color everywhere! Its what makes the area attractive! You can hardly see power lines in many communities as they are hidden among the trees, Sure there is some trimming to keep it reasonably reliable and to allow for maintenance...But what the heck do people expect when we have a big ice storm or early snow???? DUH !!!!!!!

These folks in the beautiful properties are the same folks that want low taxes low utility rates and somehow think they are entitled to uninterrupted services.

What ever happened to gratitude. Hey folks this is how most of the world lives - no video games - large screen TV's and not heat and little water or hot and cold . Wa wa you have to sleep in 40 degree weather or have to go to a local shelter because you didn't plan ahead.

I guess when you spend your entire life sheltered by your over doting parents, and work 12 hrs a day behind a computer screen you just have no fn idea of what reality is.

Personally after viewing first hand the damage I am totally amazed that we are gonna be anywhere near 99% restored in one week. Its only a matter of time that the big one will come and it will be a month. And, you know what the largest return item after Irene in retail stores was....batteries. They will never learn.

A little bit of gratitude and humility can go a long way for us all.

Sorry for the rant - and whining about the whiners..
I am not sure I am tracking can you be a little more clear on how you really feel
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Old 11-05-2011, 10:23 AM
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Soft ppl.
If it were 99 degrees and they were waiting in their attics for a week while the President did a token fly over I could understand complaining. Winter power outages are like a weekend camping trip.
I saw one guy complaining he had to throw away all his food in the fridge because there was no power while standing next to mounds of snow all over the place like it didnt occur to him to bag the snow and use it in ice chest. Modern man has totally eliminated darwin theory in this country.
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My area in the suburbs is kind of the same thing, lots of nice old trees everywhere near the power lines. Basically, these people need to wise up and get a generator...Its a bit like waiting on the government to evacuate you from Katrina and then bitching about it.
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Good post Grunt! Back in 1969 we had blizzard with 41" of snow while most of New England got away with 24" or less. Since we are surrounded by ocean on three sides of the compass we got ocean effect snow that just kept coming. Most of us had no power for over two weeks with trees and power lines down. Even though this storm only effected 30 square miles no vehicle could get through the drifts that were in many places two stories high! We even had a major waterfront fire that destroyed four fish processing plants! My job (I was 13)during that fire was a line handler jumping from dock to dock removing fishing vessels that were towed by the CG out of harms way. But everyone one pitched in, those with snow mobiles ferried doctors and nurses and patients around while everyone looked after elderly neighbors. Finally the Army National Guard was able to move in heavy equipment to clear the streets. No one complained and relished the challenge at hand. My uncle a fishing captain used his boat to deliver milk,bread and beer from Boston! And many fishing families lived on their boats for the duration. And when the utility workers were finally able to go to work,neighbors provided the coffee. You talk about pride....it was community wide!
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Then you have morons with generators...

Malloy: 322 cases of CO poisoning in CT since storm
http://www.news12.com/articleDetail....news_type=news

Who the F runs a generator inside...
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America, land of idiots.
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Soft ppl.
If it were 99 degrees and they were waiting in their attics for a week while the President did a token fly over I could understand complaining. Winter power outages are like a weekend camping trip.
I saw one guy complaining he had to throw away all his food in the fridge because there was no power while standing next to mounds of snow all over the place like it didnt occur to him to bag the snow and use it in ice chest. Modern man has totally eliminated darwin theory in this country.
Got me to laughing.

Visited my dad years ago and we had an ice/snow storm. He was saying the same thing about all his food ruining. Had to remind him of the 14" of ICE and SNOW on the ground.

Guess dad isn't as sharp as he used to be.
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The whole thing is a mess.
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Take that frozen turkey or roast, fish ,veggies out of the freezer and put in on the other side of the refrig, yes, the side that has the milk, cheese, eggs and whatever else. Guess what, all of it will be fine and in the end you will have a nice turkey dinner........

Friggin' morons surround us. Very scary.
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If you live anywhere, and you do not prepare for natural 'disasters' that have the strong potential to occur there, then yer a friggin idiot, and you deserve the misery you experience.

This applies irrespective of your sociopoliticaleconomicphilsophicalidiologialmarita lsexualeducationalcartoonpreferential status.

Prepare, or suffer greatly.


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If you live anywhere, and you do not prepare for natural 'disasters' that have the strong potential to occur there, then yer a friggin idiot, and you deserve the misery you experience.

This applies irrespective of your sociopoliticaleconomicphilsophicalidiologialmarita lsexualeducationalcartoonpreferential status.

Prepare, or suffer greatly.


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Both kids (who used to make fun of my stockpiles and other "survival" equipment ) that live locally thanked me for teaching them to be prepared with the water wood flashlights food gas etc.

I learn something every time.

This time it was the broadcast TV signals are all digital now and you need a converter.

Those cheap aqua colored 6 gal. water storage containers Wallmart sells are worthless after a year 3 out of 4 had leaks - no doubt Chinese. Gotta find some better quality stuff (in case my generator fails and I have no water , and the pool is frozen or something).

I also keep the boat porta-potti in the basement as a back-up to the back-up. for the Mrs.

You can never have enough gasoline. I was asked very unexpectedly by a good friend for 5 gals. It was an easy call as 2 towns South there was gasoline. I will buy him a can for Christmas. I used to keep 6 5 gal. cans but think I will up that and rotate the stuff more often.

I am still using the same LED AA cell flashlights. Those things are great. You get lots of hrs. on batteries. Found a real bright lantern that uses 3 aa cells and can light a whole room or provide very even light for reading.

Its good to clean out unused crap from spare rooms - had many relatives here on and off throughout the week. It was actually good as it kept us busy. We are gonna clean out another room for the next unexpected event.

Keeping the freezer full makes a big difference. So if you have 2 days warning fill it up with water bottles.

These new hi efficiency refrigerators do NOT have more insulation. They have small motors. You need to run the generator about 10 to 12 out of 24 hrs to keep stuff frozen. The old ones have bigger motors and need about half the generator plug in time to get and stay cold.

Keep the manual for your generator handy. A spare sharp chain for the chainsaw also came in handy.

You can never have too much beer or whatever your liquid of choice is.

If you have all the right stuff these events can be a challenge and actually a lot of fun. I liked seeing the other guys on our road chipping in clearing the road. Another good excuse for some drinks that evening. It was in some ways almost a let-down when we got the power back.
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Re: gasoline - get a 55 gallon drum(s). You can have them delivered. A hand pump will cost you about 35 bucks.

Easier to manage than a buttload of 5 gallon cans.

Rotate the gasoline, putting it in vehicles/power equipment as it reaches the 6 month mark.


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How do I handle my personal responsibility.... with this






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How do I handle my personal responsibility.... with this



Roger on that. Got ours installed earlier this year. 500 gallon dedicated propane tank.

I pull the main breaker once in awhile, just for fun.





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Here come the rate increases
http://www.northjersey.com/news/1333...e_horizon.html
I guess we are personally responsible
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