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Old 01-21-2005, 04:03 PM
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After trying to learn about the NHL the past few years I was looking forward to this upcoming season to get thru the slow time after football and before baseball. Last season I went to about 8 Lighting games and two playoff games and was starting to understand and was really looking forward to expanding my knowledge of the sport.
Do you guys that really have followed the sport think that the strike will be a death blow to the teams down south ?
Also is hockey being played up north in minor leagues, and how much different do the fans feel about the quality of play?
Tampa was just starting you get hockey fever but not we rarely hear any thing about it.
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Old 01-21-2005, 04:08 PM
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What is hockey?
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Old 01-21-2005, 04:34 PM
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Well, like all minor league teams around here, the hockey doesnt fare as well as the promoters want.

At least thats Fayetteville...I can't recall all the failed teams that have called this town home...
Generals, Wildcats, Patriots, Swamp Dogs...



Fayettevilles hockey team- http://www.fireantzhockey.com/
Raleigh /Capital area- http://www.carolinahurricanes.com/
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dneal - I have season tickets to the Tampa Bay Lightning AHL team, the Spingfield Falcons. Jay Feaster is trying to put a great team together. There not off to a great start up here, but we have seen some real exciting games with Tampa's style of play. You can find out more by visiting www.falconsahl.com
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Hey flat tire
Left a forum last year after hearing from guys like you and your last post?
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Semi - 1/21/2005 4:34 PM

Well, like all minor league teams around here, the hockey doesnt fare as well as the promoters want.

At least thats Fayetteville...I can't recall all the failed teams that have called this town home...
Generals, Wildcats, Patriots, Swamp Dogs...


Same here in Pensacola............
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Old 01-21-2005, 05:29 PM
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Up north here the tickets are expensive. A medium quality seat costs about the same as to go out fishing for a full day on a head (party) boat. No comparison, Hockey loses out. Also in the NY metro area with the starting times and travel home time after a game it can easily be 1:00 in the morning before hitting the hay is an option. Too late for me.

Years ago when I was single and lived in the city tickets were either very cheap or free (from extra corporate season ticket holders). Back then fishing was relatively expensive compared to a Hockey game. I even used to get on more than one occasion absolutely free tickets down low, like 2nd or 3rd row at the Garden. That is the way to watch a hockey game.
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Old 01-21-2005, 05:46 PM
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Minor league hockey is not promoted in the Tampa area, maybe they have a team in Orlando?

The feeling seems to be " out of sight, out of mind " here in cental Fl.
The Lighting could almost sell out each night if the wealthy owners and players can get on the same page
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Hockey is going to have a tough time all over. Look at pro hockey in Canada where it seems everyone plays. Quebec, Winnipeg teams move. Edmonton, Toronto and Montreal are not doing well financially (the Canadian dollar doesn't help). But even the team I root for (the Devils- who'd a guessed?) has a hard time filling seats. With the success that the Devils have had- 1995, 2000, 2003, the arena was still usually only 1/2- 2/3 full. You may say that Rangers draw away all the fans, but still, hockey has been an established sport around here with some fairly knowledgeable fans. If the Devils can't put fans in the seats the season after a cup win, I can't see them doing it the season after a lock-out. Funny thing is, the Devils seem to think that raising ticket prices will help. I don't know what math they're using, but increasing prices 20% or more and losing 20% or more fans doesn't really seem to add up. Teams are going to need to do some serious rethinking to get the fans back even in established markets.

As for minor league hockey, there's not a whole lot in our area to see. (NY/Metro) The Devils farm team is in Albany and I can't think of any that are much closer.

Sad to say, but maybe hockey shot itself in the foot.

Good thing Daytona is only a month away.
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dneal - 1/21/2005 5:43 PM Hey flat tire Left a forum last year after hearing from guys like you and your last post? Feel bigger now
Assuming you are speaking to me....I was joking as a southerner where hockey is not widely followed, that's all.
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dneal - 1/21/2005 5:43 PM Hey flat tire Left a forum last year after hearing from guys like you and your last post? Feel bigger now
Assuming you are speaking to me....I was joking as a southerner where hockey is not widely followed, that's all.
Gentlemen! In English, please!

Here is our simple hockey story....

Years ago, there was but one sport, and there was peace in the villages, and lo! There was much rejoicing and revelry into March (except for those in the Clan of the Wolf, who have been weeping ever since their Great God Valvano left the court).

And there was great purity, except for Nike shoe contracts, and nothing professional but the mighty Redskinned Warriors far, far to the land up North! And also some sideshow diversions, which were cheered by the village people -- err, people of Our Villages -- like...the Raleigh SkyHawks! And Tractor Pulls! And the Carolina Cobra Snake Charmers! And those were good, although perhaps not THAT good, except for the Snake Charmers, who did writhe mightily...Lo!

But then a great Evil decended onto our land, and blighted the sky. First the Borough of Green Things, suffered this new monstrous plague, and villagers crept back into their trucks, and drove back to the Bane of Meb, or Land of Ef, wondering what they had seen! There was ICE but it was not cold! There were people with names like Yventyraskymnstra Cyvktristi!!

And the Evil spread to the great Woods of Raleigh, and seduced the council of elders, who built a Temple to this horror, after listening to a devil with forked tongue known as Karmanos the Greek! Verily did the devil do Greek Things to the innocents villagers, and to this day, we must pay ONE HALF F*CKING PERCENT TAX every time we quaff a mug of ale, or order a basket of wings, if near the Woods of Raleigh.

There was worse to come! Newcomers of the Devil's Faith came into our village from points North! From within our midst, villagers who had been living quietly for years proclaimed THEY TOO had ALWAYS worshipped the Devil, and were only waiting for His Sport to arrive! They paraded and made boastful, and lo, purchased a great many ugly front license plates, and dressed their little children in the town of Cary in strange vestments called a "Hockey Jersey", after the land in which they were born, instead of rat-tails and hand-me-down Waltrip 'Tide' t-shirts, of the Believing.

And on certain nights, the faithful citizens CURSED as the ox-carts became jammed, with spectators curious about this Evil, and were much delayed getting home to their loved-ones, much like when That That Cannot Be Named falls from the heavens.

But I digress.

The Village Gods have not deserted Their People, and cast a MORE POWERFUL spell on Devil, and the Evil is quiet, now, and the villagers can get back to cheering that that is Holy,
except for those in the Clan of the Wolf, who are verily still gnashing teeth.

In short -- f*ck hockey.
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Old 01-22-2005, 08:27 AM
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Boy did i have a great time when the Hurricanes made it to The Cup! Lots of fair weather fans snatched up tickets and had no idea what they were watching, but the place was rocking! I think i spent a couple of thousand bucks on tickets and beer that season.

We'll see what the end result of the lock-out brings soon enough. I, for one, would be disapointed to loose a piece of quality entertainment for my town. And an excuse to drink $8 beer. Most of the people that i know who bitch about hockey don't go to the games. Go figure.

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Old 01-22-2005, 08:40 AM
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In the Boston area, thier are many who eat, drink and sleep the Brooons. It's a sad day for the NHL. I think it'll take years in some places to bring the fans back. Maybe the fact that the Sox won the Series and the Pat's might just win it all again has taken the edge off here.
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Old 01-22-2005, 09:23 AM
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Here is our simple hockey story....

Years ago, there was but one sport, and there was peace in the villages, and lo! There was much rejoicing and revelry into March (except for those in the Clan of the Wolf, who have been weeping ever since their Great God Valvano left the court).

And there was great purity, except for Nike shoe contracts, and nothing professional but the mighty Redskinned Warriors far, far to the land up North! And also some sideshow diversions, which were cheered by the village people -- err, people of Our Villages -- like...the Raleigh SkyHawks! And Tractor Pulls! And the Carolina Cobra Snake Charmers! And those were good, although perhaps not THAT good, except for the Snake Charmers, who did writhe mightily...Lo!

But then a great Evil decended onto our land, and blighted the sky. First the Borough of Green Things, suffered this new monstrous plague, and villagers crept back into their trucks, and drove back to the Bane of Meb, or Land of Ef, wondering what they had seen! There was ICE but it was not cold! There were people with names like Yventyraskymnstra Cyvktristi!!

And the Evil spread to the great Woods of Raleigh, and seduced the council of elders, who built a Temple to this horror, after listening to a devil with forked tongue known as Karmanos the Greek! Verily did the devil do Greek Things to the innocents villagers, and to this day, we must pay ONE HALF F*CKING PERCENT TAX every time we quaff a mug of ale, or order a basket of wings, if near the Woods of Raleigh.

There was worse to come! Newcomers of the Devil's Faith came into our village from points North! From within our midst, villagers who had been living quietly for years proclaimed THEY TOO had ALWAYS worshipped the Devil, and were only waiting for His Sport to arrive! They paraded and made boastful, and lo, purchased a great many ugly front license plates, and dressed their little children in the town of Cary in strange vestments called a "Hockey Jersey", after the land in which they were born, instead of rat-tails and hand-me-down Waltrip 'Tide' t-shirts, of the Believing.

And on certain nights, the faithful citizens CURSED as the ox-carts became jammed, with spectators curious about this Evil, and were much delayed getting home to their loved-ones, much like when That That Cannot Be Named falls from the heavens.

But I digress.

The Village Gods have not deserted Their People, and cast a MORE POWERFUL spell on Devil, and the Evil is quiet, now, and the villagers can get back to cheering that that is Holy,
except for those in the Clan of the Wolf, who are verily still gnashing teeth.

In short -- f*ck hockey.
Yea, and this plague spreadeth even further across the land, and gravitas exerted its powerful pull, and the plague moved southerly...
the Ville of Fayette was next to feel its awful wrath...

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Here's how I look at it. I've been a Ranger fan for years. Had season tickets. I don't miss it right now, but in 2 weeks when football is over and all that is left is dreaded BASKETBALL, i'm gonna go batty until Striper season starts. The only sports I ever watch on TV are Football and Hockey.
I lost my taste for Baseball after their strike and I think this lockout is probably going to have the same affect on Hockey. Too Bad!
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Major League sports are a bore, be they baseball, basketball, hockey, or football. I used to be able to watch hockey until the "FoxTrax" halo or whatever it was dumbed it up. Then college lacrosse was ok to watch until they started celebrating like basketball and football players.

Start paying professional athletes no more than the average military man and I think you'll see a better quality of play and sportsmanship.

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I am with Tireless "what in the hell is hockey"

Around here it is 2 things FOOTBALL(college, high school) and NASCAR.


However we do have a minor league Hockey team in Greenville SC(only 20 minutes
from where I live) and several of my friends really enjoy it. In fact one
even has season tickets with his wife(her idea).
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C'mon tprice.....I know you will be watching football tomorrow night as the Falcons bite the Eagles!

My initial response to dneal's question contains my answer. Hockey has to be alive (which it isn't in the south and never will be) before it can die. Hockey in the SE is an extremely niche sport with very, very few followers. I believe the avg attendance in Atlanta has gone down over the years. Heck, we lost the first team that came here (we are the 10th largest metropolitan area in the country). On a positive note, the attendance in Atl went up slightly last year following all of the publicity of the NHL hockey player driving his Ferrari off the road thereby killing his teammate.

The primary reason for this lack of interest is the simple fact that nobody plays hockey here. Hockey is not at all a part of the southern culture... and why should it be since there is virtually no place to play it. Who follows any sport that they don't have some personal connection to. I would venture a guess that the vast majority of the people attending Atlanta NHL games are transplants from the NE or upper MW states. I have no idea whether the current strike will impact their continuing interest in the sport since:

I don't know any foreigners from the NE - we have a gated community to keep them out

I think the transplants go to the games down here to experience a sliver of the culture they fled

Lastly, people down here have enough of a hard time keeping their teeth.......add hockey to the mix and our kids will be wearing full sets of dentures by high school!
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Old 01-22-2005, 01:15 PM
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I guess I was just looking share a few thoughts with some of the hockey fans I met here last year. Im a life long Florida cracker (51 years) and have as much of the south in me as anyone.
As far as the sport not doing well down here,I think Tampa won the whole enchiladia (sp) last year. Each time I went to a game it was sold out. The people at the games and local bars and bussiness were having a great time.
I have a good friend that works for a large euipment company here that always has luxury suite tickets for the Lighting, Buccs and Devil Rays for me ,I in turn have a house on the water with three nice boats that he is welcome to use anytime.

I have been to more football games than I can count, all the baseball that I can stand. Free food and drink, parking passes and the VIP treatment. So yes I will miss hockey if it does not return.

As far as the Nascar stuff,I worked on a late model dirt track team for 3 years that won the 1990 Championship at East Bay Speedway. Also have done the ride around at Daytona, 4 laps at 170 mph.

Hockey is not for all people, but I did enjoy what few games I attended.
But what the hell , Its about 70 out side I think Ill drop a boat in the water and go for a little spin in the river

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Tireless, I am afraid the Eagles are going to sent the Birds back to the ATL packing.

Would like to see them in the Super Bowl again but I think that is going to be tough, weather ain't going to help either.
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