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Old 09-07-2011, 09:50 AM
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Maybe TOO philosophical question but bare with me...
I just posted a thread on executive pens and somebody mentioned that there must be a forum about it somewhere, and indeed there was.
This got me thinking about something I was meditatiing the other day..

How important has Google (or any search engine) become in my everyday activities...

I never thought about it until, my home PC got infected with a very resilient and sneaky type of rootkit malware (it's like a virus but no anti-virus can detect it) that basically the only thing it does is:
every time that you look for something on google and got your results, you click on the one that you think fit the best to your search, but instead of taking you to that site, the "virus" redirects your explorer firefox or browser to spam, porn, etc... websites that sponsor some jerck that wrote the virus.

So I was out of google at home, and it got me thinking how many times I solved problems or learned stuff by "googling" something.

I remember when my water heater element went to crap on a Friday night. I was going to call a plumber on saturday, but I decided to google my brand and model + "heating element" first.

I got a ton of information!!!! from the part # of the element, places where to buy it, if home depot carried it, cross-reference part nuber for a generic equal, directions on how to troubleshoot the problem, advice from people that went thru the same issue and their experience to youtube videos made by registered plumbers showing you steps by step on how to change it.

Now that I think about it it blows my mind!!!! and wonder how did we survive before google????

I'm jus kidding on the last one, but on a serious note, do you realize how many things you google every day? addresses, directions, reviews, how-to's, prices, events, spelling, sinonyms, words meaning, etc...

Please share your experiences if you had them.

PS: The virus issue, I'm resolving it after googling "internet explorer redirecting my google searchs" on my PC at work...
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Old 09-07-2011, 09:59 AM
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I had that same malware problem with google. Was a real PIA to search for a solution too! Try typing in "google search redirects to different site" and I got everything except what I was looking for. Took forever to finally solve the problem. If I clicked back after going to the wrong site, then click the google link again it would take me to the correct link.

Anyhow, yes life before google is kind of like life before cell phones. How did we function? My home page is google because that is usually where I start. I couldn't even begin to list the resources I get daily through google.
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I use google nearly every day, I guess that's why they're trading at 530.19 right now, up over 10 bucks a share this morning.
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We have (had) a drawer for phone books, white pages, Yellow pages, etc at home. My lovely bride of 27 years asked me, "Do we need these any more?" Knowing the answer, we agreed why keep them when there is Google and the net.

We didn't use the books that much anyway so we could do without them.

But you are right about the info available.

I was talking to my in-laws a while back about the www and they just didn't see the need for it. I mean how good could it be? Right?
I said to my FIL, "You like restoring theater organs right?" He said, "Yes". so I Googled, "Theater Organs" and the world opened up to him with more information then he could wrap his mind around.
I tried to convey to him, ANYTHING,..... ANYTHING, you want to know about, it is right here in front of you!!!!

I didn't mention "Rule #34" though.




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Old 09-07-2011, 10:18 AM
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In the truest sense of your question I find it nothing more than a tool, a tool I occasionally use. I rarely search for answers outside of my own abilities, not because of vanity, but because of my expansive knowledge base. I live under the premise of, if man can make it or fix it, so can I. It’s a tough pill to swallow, but I’m managing…..the sad part is all this knowledge dies with me.
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Originally Posted by TheRealMacGyver View Post
I had that same malware problem with google. Was a real PIA to search for a solution too! Try typing in "google search redirects to different site" and I got everything except what I was looking for. Took forever to finally solve the problem. If I clicked back after going to the wrong site, then click the google link again it would take me to the correct link.

The oracle "goole" directed me to www.bleepingcomputer.com. great bunch of helping guys on everything virus related.

Anyhow, yes life before google is kind of like life before cell phones. How did we function? My home page is google because that is usually where I start. I couldn't even begin to list the resources I get daily through google.

Same "home page" on all my computers. some may use Bing, or Yahoo search, but "which" search engine is not the point. The ability to find SOO much info, on such a wide veriety of topics, and sooo fast is what amazes me.
A friend of mine JUST called me. The video on her laptop screen is "up-side down" and she wanted to ask me if I knew where to buy and replace the video card because it obviosly broke down.

I googled "HP laptop screen is up-side down".
First result back is from somebody saying that his 6 years old was fooling with his notebook and by the time he realized his screen video was upside down.

I asked my friend if she have seen her 2 YO around the computer since it went upside down... Her answer started with ..." now that you mention it..."

A response to the 6-YO-father was a combination of Crtl-Shift-Down arrow keys....

It worked like magic.. and all this in probably 3 and a half minutes or so.since I picked up the phone until hunged up.
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The knowledge dies with you.... You don't really believe that you're the only one who has it do you?
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Originally Posted by Garett View Post
In the truest sense of your question I find it nothing more than a tool, a tool I occasionally use. I rarely search for answers outside of my own abilities, not because of vanity, but because of my expansive knowledge base. I live under the premise of, if man can make it or fix it, so can I. It’s a tough pill to swallow, but I’m managing…..the sad part is all this knowledge dies with me.
I'm 100% with you on that one... that's one of the things that what makes americans great!!! determination and self reliance...

Where I'm going to is that NOBODY will ALWAYS know it ALL about EVERYTHING...
You may be the the upmost expert in the whole universe about one particular subject and the only one that could answer a specific question on that matter better than nobody else... but if I ask you "where is the low pressure A/C port in my 2007 Dodge Ram 1500?" you will probably have to google it.

Ask me how I know where is the low pressure A/C port in my 2007 Dodge Ram 1500. LOL

So why do you want to pay the price of the learning curve to acomplish something you did not know before... you will make mistakes that somebody made before and was kind and thoughtfull enough to put it out in the net, so somebody else would not have to make and "pay" the same mistake!!!

I'll conceed you one thing though.... at a quick glance my point would seem to contradict my first statement about "self reliance", but I will defend it by saying that the benefit outweigths the cost, in my opinion...
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Originally Posted by 240 LTS View Post
We have (had) a drawer for phone books, white pages, Yellow pages, etc at home. My lovely bride of 27 years asked me, "Do we need these any more?" Knowing the answer, we agreed why keep them when there is Google and the net.

We didn't use the books that much anyway so we could do without them.

But you are right about the info available.

I was talking to my in-laws a while back about the www and they just didn't see the need for it. I mean how good could it be? Right?
I said to my FIL, "You like restoring theater organs right?" He said, "Yes". so I Googled, "Theater Organs" and the world opened up to him with more information then he could wrap his mind around.
I tried to convey to him, ANYTHING,..... ANYTHING, you want to know about, it is right here in front of you!!!!

I didn't mention "Rule #34" though.




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Phone books....I can't remember when was the last time I opened or owned one of those....15 years at least.

I'll bite... What does "rule #34" says???
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Originally Posted by Garett View Post
In the truest sense of your question I find it nothing more than a tool, a tool I occasionally use. I rarely search for answers outside of my own abilities, not because of vanity, but because of my expansive knowledge base. I live under the premise of, if man can make it or fix it, so can I. It’s a tough pill to swallow, but I’m managing…..the sad part is all this knowledge dies with me.
You can't be serious. I have found MY OWN posts from 10+ years ago using google. Things I knew at one time and forgot. Like how to remove the window regulator in a 1991 300ZX. I can do just about anything with a toolbox but there is no need for me to waste my time trying to figure out the best way to do something if someone else has already clearly documented it. I, in turn, document things I know how to do so that they can help somebody else.

But the real question isn't "how much are you affected by google" the real question is "how much are you affected by the internet." Google isn't providing you those answers - the internet (community) is. Google is just the means to find them efficiently.

But yes - phone books and (non manfacturer) repair guides are now garbage. Phone books, what a horrific waste, they go straight from my doorstep to the recycling bin.

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Google has changed the world.

My friends 7 year old girl learned what sex was, how to do it, that there are multiple positions and even watched two people having sex in a pool.......before she got caught.

Apparently she had "googled" "sax" and somehow ended up knowing all about sex !! LOL.

On a more serious note, she and her daughter had the "talk" that night and google's power basically forced my friend to have a daughter who was a little bit older. The next day I we were sitting at dinner and it was still on her mind, the kid said "I can't wait to have sex and make a baby with my husband"...... i lost it.
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I use it 10+ times a day. I am in the engineering field - can't know everything - but google does.

I used it to find my new house and eliminate other dumps. One can learn a ton about an area from google street view... one house was perfect looking, had everything we needed. Google street view showed me the neighbors yards, cars up on blocks, trash everywhere. Saved me more than one house hunting trip...
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You can't be serious. I have found MY OWN posts from 10+ years ago using google. Things I knew at one time and forgot. Like how to remove the window regulator in a 1991 300ZX. I can do just about anything with a toolbox but there is no need for me to waste my time trying to figure out the best way to do something if someone else has already clearly documented it. I, in turn, document things I know how to do so that they can help somebody else.

But the real question isn't "how much are you affected by google" the real question is "how much are you affected by the internet." Google isn't providing you those answers - the internet (community) is. Google is just the means to find them efficiently.

But yes - phone books and (non manfacturer) repair guides are now garbage. Phone books, what a horrific waste, they go straight from my doorstep to the recycling bin.
YEP!!!!! no doubt... now... I'll "one-you-up" on that concept...
The real question is "how much are you affected by the combination of google AND the internet"

Here is my analogy: You may have instant access to every piece of knowledge, in every book, in every library in the world, but without a tool to find what you are looking for like an index, your are most likely screwed up...depending what knowledge you want to aquire, without a search tool, it may take you longer to find it than learn it by experience.
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Google has changed the world.

My friends 7 year old girl learned what sex was, how to do it, that there are multiple positions and even watched two people having sex in a pool.......before she got caught.

Apparently she had "googled" "sax" and somehow ended up knowing all about sex !! LOL.

On a more serious note, she and her daughter had the "talk" that night and google's power basically forced my friend to have a daughter who was a little bit older. The next day I we were sitting at dinner and it was still on her mind, the kid said "I can't wait to have sex and make a baby with my husband"...... i lost it.
Very funny!!!! (because it was someone else's daugther LOL)
In all seriousnes, like any other tool, they are not good or bad in itself. They are only as good or as bad as the goal you intended to usit for.
I was going to go with the "good gun or bad gun" analogy, but will most likely derail my own thread...LOL

Anyways.... very interesting exchange of ideas....
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but if I ask you "where is the low pressure A/C port in my 2007 Dodge Ram 1500?" you will probably have to google it.
Nope, I already knew there was. At least there is one on my Ram 2500 diesel A/C system.
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Thats why everyone around here went into a fit yesterday when Brighthouse cable went down for a while.
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There are other search engines (yahoo, Bing to name a few). They seem all seem to be rather generic to me. I generally use Yahoo, as they also have easy access to Finance and general news info.
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Google is getting scary control over the net...search engine results is one thing, but the information they can collect and how they can impact the web, beyond just google.com is scary. I work for a company that essentially monitors the internet, when google has a hickup it impacts probably 90% of the sites out there to one extent or another.

They control what information you get when what get...

Random fact...They are getting into power generation, because there is not enough energy from the grid
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Originally Posted by Boat Hound View Post
Google is getting scary control over the net...search engine results is one thing, but the information they can collect and how they can impact the web, beyond just google.com is scary. I work for a company that essentially monitors the internet, when google has a hickup it impacts probably 90% of the sites out there to one extent or another.

They control what information you get when what get...

Random fact...They are getting into power generation, because there is not enough energy from the grid
I'd imagine Google is getting into power generation because their datacenters use a lot of power..and if they make an electric co-generating plant, other utilities have to buy any extra power they generate--at wholesale, which may be cheaper than what they are making their own poower. That, and they get other tax breaks as well.
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