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Old 08-19-2011, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by baypro21 View Post
Your question makes it sound like you are ok with veterans working the system at the taxpayers expense. Please tell me you are not stupid enough to think that. Hopefully I misunderstand the point of your question.

To all the legit veterans and currently serving, thanks for your service.
Please tell me YOU are not stupid enough to think that.............
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Old 08-19-2011, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by LI Sound Grunt View Post
This is not off topic. I went there for my hearing test. The people were very nice. Before that I have only gone to Newington which is much closer. WEest Haven is a longer ride for me.
Ah, my fiance works at the VA in West Haven (although technically for Yale and not the hospital). I have also been to the Rocky Hill VA, but it was for a softball game.

Sorry to be off topic a bit, carry on.
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Old 08-19-2011, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by william wiswald View Post
Paul hana,
Why don't you just mind your own business? Don't you have anything better to do than to try and play judge jury and God with someone whom you have no rite to say anything about?
Go fishing- and keep your comments to yourself before you stick your foot in you mouth again.
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Internet drama.

I do mind my own business. I don't complain to him but just thought it was kind of unfair. As a matter of fact, I had to do much of the grunt work FOR HIM during our working years because we all knew he had a bad back. I just don't think it's fair to the rest of the crew who have to carry these slackers.

It's just my opinion. Sorry if it offended you. You're not a mod on another fishing site, are you?
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Old 08-20-2011, 04:41 AM
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Random thoughts from a Army infantry vet....

I'm a cop now, on a daily basis I see drug addicts and alcoholics getting monthly benefits for being drug addicts and alcoholics. I was taling to a 19 year old kid a few days ago who was on disability and he looked healthier than I am. Disabled at 19???This is not right.

If a US Veteran says he has rining in his ears and wants free hearing aids or eyeglasses, he has earned them. A junkie has earned nothing but a cell IMHO.

I don't know this man's particular situation with the VA nor the Worker's Comp board so to comment on it is ignorant without inside details.
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Old 08-20-2011, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by william wiswald View Post
The good life,
No I'm not a mod on another site just a guy who served his country for 15 years - it just seems that there are so many people in the world nowadays that need to complain about whats going on in someone else's life.You stated that you and the other guys help carry him- well maybe you should consider that He needed it-

So to me it sounds as though your jealous of what this guys getting so why don't you come up with something you can say is service related about your health so you can also receive some bennys that believe it or not you may be entitled to.
First off thank you for serving as many of us did.

Secondly I'm sort of upset at this guy because of people like you who can use these benefits and deserve it.

And finally, just before retiring, he was worried about who would make his mortgage payment, pay for his new car and pay for his pride a joy, a modified sports car. He was married once before, has no kids and has been single since his divorce. He lived with a gal for a few years then kicked her out because of personal reasons. Too me, it sounds like it's all about him.

I did look at veteran's benefits. I have not used any up to this day as I feel I'm one of the lucky ones who doesn't have to use them. I have been fortunate to be able to provide for me and my family up to this point.

Once again, sorry if you took it the wrong way.
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Old 08-20-2011, 04:26 PM
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My uncle sufferered from what is now called delayed stress syndrom from WWII. He is in his 90s now.
He had a mental collapse just after coming home from the war and hes never been right after thta. Menial task jobs all his life. He never asked the Gov't for a cent.

getting back to scammers, you can bet teh gov't put them thru a complete physical before giving them any money. Same with workmans comp. I was the safety guy at work, and was fully involved with the inhuries, both real and scams. had one scam where 3 "ladies" claimed carpel tunnel injury and were dsisabled because they were electronic assemblers. Workmans comp put them thru a phyical and the results got it thrown out of court.

I have a hearing loss caused as a birth defect. It was discovered by the draft board when I tried to enlist in the Navy in1968. Besides the draft physical, they called me back for an overnight at a VA hospital where specialists looked at me, and then I had to go to a civilian specialist they chose for another test.
over that period of time I had 9 hearing tests, all at different machines by different doctors.

So, if your friend is actually receiving money, you bet your a** that they have looked into it.
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Old 08-20-2011, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by the good life View Post
Internet drama.

I do mind my own business. I don't complain to him but just thought it was kind of unfair. As a matter of fact, I had to do much of the grunt work FOR HIM during our working years because we all knew he had a bad back. I just don't think it's fair to the rest of the crew who have to carry these slackers.

It's just my opinion. Sorry if it offended you. You're not a mod on another fishing site, are you?
Why did you and the other workers say something to management. Sounds like you made you own destiny.
BTW, I would hire your friend to sell for me........
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Old 08-21-2011, 07:24 AM
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I got an email notice there was a post from william wiswalsd posted yesterday - what happened to it?
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Old 08-22-2011, 12:39 AM
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As a member of the military I feel that people who put their lives on the line should be taken care of. However, I know a soldier who got a purple heart for being knocked to the ground by a rocket attack on a FOB( base) with no injuries. I know another who is now on disability for ptsd who sat in an office in Iraq for a year. It goes both ways some people don't get taken care of when they should and some people RAPE the system.
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Old 08-22-2011, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by leachjef View Post
It goes both ways some people don't get taken care of when they should and some people RAPE the system.
I can only speak from my own personal experiences on AD.

When preparing to exit the military, you were required to attend a day long military separation briefing which involved sitting in a room with 50-100 people or so listening to other people's recent separation experiences. Also, a good portion of the briefing covered veterans benefits and how to apply for them. It was stressed that disability and other benefits provided by VA are benefits you earned, and that it was prudent you apply as soon as you separate, regardless of your current mindset. Most people just wanted to get a sign off for attending, and get the hell out of there. lol

Nowadays, there is program (SEP program I believe it is called) that actually has a VA decision-maker review your service medical records and make a disability determination prior to AD separation, or within 30 days in most cases. It is a benefit you earned and should apply for. Unlike SSA, the VA disability system is a non-adversarial process that will grant benefits if the evidence warrants it, and deny if it does not. And, if reasonable doubt exists, it is resolved in favor of the Vet.

If you wait to apply for benefits many years after leaving AD service, it can significantly lengthen the decision-making process as it can be more difficult for VA to find records to support claims. When records cannot be found, I have seen it result in a denial of benefits, and in some cases a denial to those who deserved a grant. This is why VA encourages Vets to apply upon separation from AD.

I will also say that I have rolled my eyes more than a couple of times after reviewing the merits of a claim that resulted in a grant. However, the role of a VA decision-maker is to weigh the evidence of record. If a credible psychiatrist or mental health professional provides an opinion favorable to the Vet, then reasonable doubt will be resolved in his favor. It's not a perfect system, but IMO for a govt agency, it works pretty good.
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Old 08-22-2011, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by LI Sound Grunt View Post
I got an email notice there was a post from william wiswalsd posted yesterday - what happened to it?
The post was deleted by the user himself.
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Old 08-22-2011, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by leachjef View Post
As a member of the military I feel that people who put their lives on the line should be taken care of. However, I know a soldier who got a purple heart for being knocked to the ground by a rocket attack on a FOB( base) with no injuries. I know another who is now on disability for ptsd who sat in an office in Iraq for a year. It goes both ways some people don't get taken care of when they should and some people RAPE the system.
All I know is in Nam candy ribbon was very free flowing as nobody made any rank as far as I saw.

I am now thinking people in a war zone that are not 11B or on the ground grunts are just as likely and maybe more so to get PTSD. I know in my group 2 of the 3 guys getting 100% fro PTSD were never in combat. They both also have or had other serious medical issues. One loaded bombs and the other an air traffic controller. I think the guys in the rear have too much free time to worry and such. In the jungle we were busy cutting bush or other hard work every second. Especially in these last 2 wars, the guys in the rear could be in danger from roadside bombs anywhere and they never know what side haji is really on. The infantry guys on the other hand accept a lot of the danger as part of their jobs and are trained better for that.

Also I think a large part of the criteria is how are you NOW. So if you were able to deal with it Ok fine - combat or not. Some people though have inherent inabilities to deal with reality and it can manifest itself as PTSD - again - combat or not. I love the motto - Can Do and Carry On - but it is just not possible for some. Then again they may indeed be scamming the system - some of that goes on everywhere.....

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Thanks - it was a very depressing one and I will pray for and wish him well..
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