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Old 06-09-2011, 05:46 AM
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Default Black Snake or Indigo?

Found in central Missouri...and our friend is freaking out that it's a python/viper/coral/mamba type of snake.

I told her it's a harmless American Mouser/frogger variety


Anybody want to give a more accurate description?

P.S. she let it live unless somebody tells her about moccasins.....
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Old 06-09-2011, 05:52 AM
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Looks poisonous to me!
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Indigos are now reduced to the Ga coastal plain and Florida. Not an Indigo. I have seen cottonmouths with blue eyes.
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Originally Posted by JCC123 View Post
Looks poisonous to me!
...bet the snake was thinking the exact same thing about the photographer!
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Wondering if hes getting ready to shed???

The way I tell a juvenile indigo from a black racer is when I pick them up.
Black racer will bite the snot of you non-stop until you contain him (then he still doesn't stop)

Really though, indigo are quite impressive in their coloring (the ones I have seen), almost a blue hue to them
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Last indigo I saw was about the color of a blued rifle barrel...shiny and beautiful. Seems that their habitat and snake collectors are reducing their numbers a lot, though.

She should have put the snake in water to see how much of it stayed above water. A Lot means a moccasin, a little means all the others...
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No a Moccasin,or any of the North American pit viper's, much less a Coral.
It's look's to me like a water snake that is in the blue phase ( going to shed ).
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that rock in the photo is the edge of her large pond. Do water snakes eat fish, or just frogs and other ground animals?
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Old 06-09-2011, 06:33 AM
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They will eat fish,tadpole's, frog's, lizard's. they aren't too picky..
Here is a link to a moccasin, I found in my yard.
http://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-...-bad-guys.html
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I used to go through the garage in bare feet, without turning the light on, to get a drink from the fridge. I knew my way in the dark. One day I did turn the light on to find a tool and there on the cement floor was a 3-4 foot water snake. I now turn on the light every time.
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Triangle head = venomous
Rounded head = non-venomous

The only exception to this rule that I know of is the Coral snake, but they are easily identifiable by their colors/markings.
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Agree that it is not an Indigo, but I don't think it is a Black snake either - it is too thick for a Black snake.
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Eastern Ratsnake. Color can vary widely:
http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/wildlif...tion/?s=030023

Good to have around.
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Originally Posted by First Light View Post
Agree that it is not an Indigo, but I don't think it is a Black snake either - it is too thick for a Black snake.

Depends. Maybe the frog population of the pond just got lower
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Originally Posted by Mr. Demeanor View Post
Eastern Ratsnake. Color can vary widely:
http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/wildlif...tion/?s=030023

Good to have around.
That white underside seems to be an exact match, doesn't it?
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I don't know what is it, but I'd make it a dead snake.
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Originally Posted by John_Madison CT View Post
I don't know what is it, but I'd make it a dead snake.
Peoples unfounded fear of snakes always amazes me.
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This guy is a regular visitor to our garden.
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Eastern Yellow-Bellied Racer. Picture taken in Missouri 2006
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Old 06-09-2011, 08:32 AM
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Now THAT is a well-fed snake, Dave. Are you missing some chickens?
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