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Old 06-06-2011, 06:51 PM
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It seems to be I am reading through many of people posts these days and it looks like there are a lot of pilots in here.

Are you a pilot or work in the aviation industry? What are you aviation back grounds?

Me:
24 years old. Just recently graduated Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University here in Daytona beach. I majored in Air Traffic Management with a flight minor. I was all pumped up when I first attended school here and wanted to be a career pilot. The way the industry has changed has defiantly changed my mind!

Current:
A year ago I started and aviation marketing company with a friend of mine I met at school. My partner in this business moved back home to the Czech Republic. I now buy mostly small piston planes here in the states and ship them over to him to sell and it works out nicely (exchange rate ).
I am looking to get into purchasing wrecked Bell 206 jet rangers to sell as parts and am currently doing my research!

So whats your background in Aviation?
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Don't really want to go there BUT.

Private pilot at 16.
Commercial, Multi and A&P at 22.
First airline at 24. B-727. Furloughed in one year.
Hired following week at cargo carrier. B-727. FE, FO then Captain at 28. Furloughed 5 years later.
Hired following week by National Airline. MD-80. Left six months later for Major Airline.
At Major Airline at 30. Took voluntary furlough 6 years later. Writing was on the wall. They were out of business two years later.
In the midst of this the FAA comes calling and states the designated examiner that I took my A&P test with had been indited for issuing certificates to unqualified foreign students during a three year period. Therefore anyone that took the examine during said period has to surrender their certificate. No longer an A&P.

Took the leave of absence to get involved in other business ventures and never looked back. Financially, as well as quality of life has been WAY better than an airline career at this point in my life. Currently working towards a Pilatus for myself.

Best of luck to you.
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Took the leave of absence to get involved in other business ventures and never looked back. Financially, as well as quality of life has been WAY better than an airline career at this point in my life. Currently working towards a Pilatus for myself.

Best of luck to you.
So are you still dabbling in the business aviation side or have you moved on and now making money elsewhere?
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I fly for an airline. Started flying the DC8 in 1996 right out of flight school for an ad-hoc carrier in MIA with 310 hours TT. Got my FE ticket and moved up from there. Did the rounds at many of the ad-hoc charter companies in MIA flying worn out 727's and DC8's. Now 15 years later I have been hired by a large operator of 747 cargo jets as FO. Still waiting for a class date which has been pushed back 5 times now. Until then I fly as crew support and instruct in the 727 sim. Hopefully class starts in September. Thinking about doing a 6mo contract with a Las Vegas 747 charter operator flying to asia and the middle east but really really not looking forward to doing that.

Being an airline pilot is a difficult profession. Furloughs, low pay, being away from home for long periods, companies that abuse you for their own enjoyment. It gets old, but I still couldn't imagine doing anything else.
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I am embarassed to post because i am just a private pilot.
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I'm a travel agent for Brown Boxes, I mean an International Freight Forwarder

I fill the Bellies of the passenger aircraft and the main decks for you cargo guys.
Keep my freight moving!

Thank you !
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"So are you still dabbling in the business aviation side"
No

"have you moved on and now making money elsewhere?"
Yes



"Did the rounds at many of the ad-hoc charter companies in MIA flying worn out 727's and DC8's. "

Ever fly for Amerijet?
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Old 06-07-2011, 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by scubayachts13 View Post
It seems to be I am reading through many of people posts these days and it looks like there are a lot of pilots in here.

Are you a pilot or work in the aviation industry? What are you aviation back grounds?

Me:
24 years old. Just recently graduated Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University here in Daytona beach. I majored in Air Traffic Management with a flight minor. I was all pumped up when I first attended school here and wanted to be a career pilot. The way the industry has changed has defiantly changed my mind!

Current:
A year ago I started and aviation marketing company with a friend of mine I met at school. My partner in this business moved back home to the Czech Republic. I now buy mostly small piston planes here in the states and ship them over to him to sell and it works out nicely (exchange rate ).
I am looking to get into purchasing wrecked Bell 206 jet rangers to sell as parts and am currently doing my research!

So whats your background in Aviation?
Congrats on the exporting company I would be interested in hearing more about that.

Careful on parting out stuff that can get tricky unless your basically stealing the 206's in the first place. Make sure you do your research I think you will find it's not so simple. Actually I think you'll figure out that anything that involves the FAA is simple

Did you also get your pilots license thru ERU?

Oh and I ride around in a G550.
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^^^^^I hope the 550 treats you better than the boat in yer sig did.


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^^^^^I hope the 550 treats you better than the boat in yer sig did.


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Yes I did receive my privates only at ERAU. I then woke up and figured out I am not paying these crooks this kind of money. I then bought a PA-28R-200 with Garmin GNS 530, auto pilot, and a/c. I then hired a flight instructor buddy of mine from riddle and got my other ratings that way. I then sold the Arrow and bought (Stole lol) a C-310 with 0 time engines and did my multi.

Well I have been doing my research on the parting out. You can pick up a wrecked 206 for around 70k. I have a turbine heli a&p already that can do a overhaul for cheap and then I already make my initial investment back on the engine right away. I then have the rest of the 206 and all avionics for the gravy .

O yea, if you know anybody looking for a beautiful Falcon 50 for sale with AMSG, Glass cockpit, new interior, and 750k in recent certs let me know!
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I got my feet wet in a C172, then went to a PA-32 (Saratoga) for my Instrument. After that I jumped up to a C310 for my multi and flew that for a bit before swapping it for a PA-31-350 (Chieftain). I loved that Navajo but the need for a new challenge and MORE SPEED led me to my current ride, a King Air B200. I also have a Maule MTX-7-180 (Tri Gear) for fun flying and short fields. I'm currently toying with the idea of buying something small and fast, as the KA is kind of a pain and very expensive to tool around in if it is just myself and maybe one or two others. I like the Turbine Legend, but don't know much about them besides having seen one awhile back. Anybody have any other suggestions? A Lancair may be worth a look as well.
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Old 06-07-2011, 08:12 AM
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I got my feet wet in a C172, then went to a PA-32 (Saratoga) for my Instrument. After that I jumped up to a C310 for my multi and flew that for a bit before swapping it for a PA-31-350 (Chieftain). I loved that Navajo but the need for a new challenge and MORE SPEED led me to my current ride, a King Air B200. I also have a Maule MTX-7-180 (Tri Gear) for fun flying and short fields. I'm currently toying with the idea of buying something small and fast, as the KA is kind of a pain and very expensive to tool around in if it is just myself and maybe one or two others. I like the Turbine Legend, but don't know much about them besides having seen one awhile back. Anybody have any other suggestions? A Lancair may be worth a look as well.
I have a friend over here that has a 600tt beautiful lancair for sale. He is trying to get out of it as he is in financial trouble. His R44 is also for sale. I believe he wants 250k or somewhere around that. Let me know if you are interested I have a link if you would like to take a look.
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Enthusiast and hobbiest here...Got my private in high school and flew a lot into my 20's but priorities changed. My old man was an Easter Airlines captain so I got a front row seat at the tipping point in the industry...ended up changing career paths in college.

Home ownership, kids & career kept me grounded for a long time but I started flying again about 3 years ago.
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I have a friend over here that has a 600tt beautiful lancair for sale. He is trying to get out of it as he is in financial trouble. His R44 is also for sale. I believe he wants 250k or somewhere around that. Let me know if you are interested I have a link if you would like to take a look.
Sure! If nothing else I always love looking at beautiful aircraft.
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http://www.clearwateraircraft.com/434DK.html

I have personally flown this plane with him. It is a quickie!
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http://www.clearwateraircraft.com/434DK.html

I have personally flown this plane with him. It is a quickie!

That paint is awesome and that thing is a rocket!!! What's the difference between the IL550 and the IO550? Did they mean an IOL?


Check this out:

http://gizmodo.com/5809436/exclusive...est-flyby-ever

What's that saying about "old, bold pilots"?
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I fly for an airline. Started flying the DC8 in 1996 right out of flight school for an ad-hoc carrier in MIA with 310 hours TT. Got my FE ticket and moved up from there. Did the rounds at many of the ad-hoc charter companies in MIA flying worn out 727's and DC8's. Now 15 years later I have been hired by a large operator of 747 cargo jets as FO. Still waiting for a class date which has been pushed back 5 times now. Until then I fly as crew support and instruct in the 727 sim. Hopefully class starts in September. Thinking about doing a 6mo contract with a Las Vegas 747 charter operator flying to asia and the middle east but really really not looking forward to doing that.

Being an airline pilot is a difficult profession. Furloughs, low pay, being away from home for long periods, companies that abuse you for their own enjoyment. It gets old, but I still couldn't imagine doing anything else.
This sounds like an interesting history...

What ad-hoc carrier did you fly DC-8's for?

What was it like flying DC-8's?

I would love to see some photos of the cargo planes you have flown...

Arrow Air DC-8-62F; N802BN@MIA;24.01.1998
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I flew the DC8-50/61 for Fine Airlines/Agro Air in 1996-1999 before they merged with Arrow. I flew the 727 100-200 for Custom Air Transport/Charter America, Express.Net Airlines and DHL. Never flew for Amerijet. I'm going to be going to Atlas/Polar on the 747.

I didn't like the DC8 at all. From an FE's standpoint it was hell. When we got to the hub or outstation the FO and captain went into the crew room and cafeteria as soon as they gave me the fuel upload. The DC8's fueling valves cannot be operated by the fueler. So the engineer has to sit at the panel and fill 8-10 tanks with fuel. Sometimes the fuel truck would show up an hour later and then fueling took about 1/2 hour. The fuel gauges were often unreliable so we also had to stick the tanks with drip sticks which drenched you in fuel. The 727 has external fuel valves on the fuelers panel. You just give him the fuel load and the distribution and head in with the rest of the crew.

The DC-8 steered like a sailboat. Turn the wheel wait fo the plane to turn. If you weren't stabilized on your approach (on localizer/on glideslope) before the outer marker the approach would likely be ugly hunting for the GS or LOC. The engines were slow to spool to the point it was kinda scarry sometimes. Pratt & Whitney = Push and Wait. The JT3D-3B engines were essentially bulletproof. They compressor stalled all the time on takeoff if the interstage bleed valve failed to close but you just pushed on if the bleed closed. I never had any question that the engines would be the last thing to fail on that plane. You could burn AVgas or diesel through them too if JET-A could not be found.

The DC8 was a tank. Literally. Overbuilt in every way. Many still flying today. Not because they wore out, but because of Stage 3 noise regs. There were no successful hush kits for the DC-8 50/61 series. The 62/63 series was stage 3 compliant with the long duct nacelle and the -7 engine. UPS just retired their 70 series planes last year. I'm sure they will go somewhere else.

A DC-8 flying for Kalita got off course on an approach and hit a guy wire to a tower which took off 12 feet of the wing. The plane landed safely at it's destination and the crew had no idea what happened til they got out of the plane.

The 727 is a hotrod. Better flying machine in all aspects than the DC8. I really enjoy the 727. never heard another pilot say anything bad about it. Simple autopilot and the steam gauges. You really have to fly the 727. Not like the newer automated cockpits with FMS and an autopilot that goes on at 500' with LNAV and VNAV capability.

I have a good amount of time in the 747-400 sim and it's a different machine. Autothrottle, LNAV/VNAV autpilot, LCD displays, FMS. I don't know if I'll like it. But we'll see. The workload is certainly less.

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