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Old 06-06-2011, 07:34 AM
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Most of the calibers and types of guns I bought/sold were not considered to be "service weapons". They never came close to being shot out...

I'm thinking about getting a 10mm semi-auto, though, and here's the questions:

1. Is it safe to say that a 10mm pistol hasn't been shot out just because it's larger than most agencies use...and it's a bit tough to shoot a lot of rounds through?

2. Given a modified Colt Delta, a standard but used S&W 1006, and a new Glock 20...if all are about the same price. Is there one that stands out as either being a "no brainer, get it", or not?

The Colt would probably have been fired the most, the Glock not at all.

Purpose would be plinking with a lean towards the most accurate gun (trigger pull)

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Old 06-06-2011, 07:45 AM
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Glock is the best design, the other two are the best triggers. The glock trigger can be made very decent. As far as "shot out", probably a non issue. The 1006 handles the 10MM round well, the colt, not so much, it is a handfull with full power loads
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OK, the choice is yours, but please don't refer to a semi-auto as an auto..........all that will accomplish is to get the anti-gun nuts screaming for more laws to control the sale of those horrible automatic pistols criminals are buying and selling under the counter at unregulated gun shows..........
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.... please don't refer to a semi-auto as an auto..........all that will accomplish is to get the anti-gun nuts screaming ....
OK, title fixed. ....so what do you think about the three choices?
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I'm not expert by any means. I own two semi-autos. One I purchased new (a Kahr) and the other used (a Glock). I've had problems with the Kahr, but the Glock has been completely reliable. Breaking the two down, the Glock just seems so much better made. If I ever make another purchase going forward, I think I wouldn't consider anything other than a Glock. The Austrians seem to know how to make things right. KTM motorcycles is another prime example.
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Old 06-06-2011, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by bamaboy473 View Post
Most of the calibers and types of guns I bought/sold were not considered to be "service weapons". They never came close to being shot out...

I'm thinking about getting a 10mm semi-auto, though, and here's the questions:

1. Is it safe to say that a 10mm pistol hasn't been shot out just because it's larger than most agencies use...and it's a bit tough to shoot a lot of rounds through?

2. Given a modified Colt Delta, a standard but used S&W 1006, and a new Glock 20...if all are about the same price. Is there one that stands out as either being a "no brainer, get it", or not?

The Colt would probably have been fired the most, the Glock not at all.

Purpose would be plinking with a lean towards the most accurate gun (trigger pull)
I had the SW .40 (sort of like the 10mm) and really liked it. Prior use, and how many rounds have been put throught are likely to be a non issue. If the gun tolerances feel right, and an examination of parts shows "regular" rather than "abusive wear" you will be just fine. I doubt you will be firing 5000 rounds through the gun in your lifetime.

Plinking and murdering phone books, potato's and cans is just about as much fun as there is with hand guns.... Therefore, pick the one that feels best to you. This includes the grip feeling and the sighting aspects.

With three high quality guns, it really does become a personal matter. That's why all three maker's are still in business. Each appeals to certain users. Most gun users will suggest there is quality in each make.

I've never shot a Glock, and have shot the Colt and the SW. I've never heard of anyone dislike their Glock. I really liked my SW. It was smooth and well made. My problem with the gun was with the shooter. I never got real good at consistently hitting things.

That's why I have most fun with my SW .22 pistol with the six inch barrell, and any form of .22 rifle. Shoot all day with either. Don't break the bank with ammo. Have a ball.
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Old 06-06-2011, 09:36 AM
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Do a search. Some of the early Colt's had frame failures if I recall correctly.

The ammo makes it an expensive plinking gun. 10MM ammo is not always available so keep that in mind.
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with a 10mm you will be mail ordering all your ammo, so keep that in mind
with that in mind, it is a badass, and would be way more popular now if not for bad timing

http://www.natchezss.com/Ammo.cfm?co...ition%2050/box

$0.50/rnd is going to add up quickly...
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Old 06-06-2011, 11:16 AM
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I re-load and powder/bullets seem to be the same as for .40SW. Haven't checked brass/primers, but brass is pretty much a one-time expense and primers are LP primers; same as for other large caliber pistols.

I shoot a .45LC and don't much care for the single action pistol, so I'd sell that and try the 10mm if the shorter barrels are reasonably close to being as accurate. Family plinking is it, so competitive shooting isn't a factor. I like exploding cans!
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Which one feels better? Which are you the most comfortable shooting? I think Glocks are very good weapons, but I personally don't like the overall feel of the gun, so it is not my choice (notice I said my, many people love the fit/feel of Glock). I personally like the Colt of the 3 choices, but that is because of fit/feel again. I love Smith rifles and revolvers, but don't care for their autos (semi-autos) much. Doubt very seriously you wil ever "shoot-out" any of these brands, but avoid the pitfalls of trying to make your handloads too hot. Most people wrongfully assume a hotter (more powder) cartridge=better performance, and generally that is not accurate. Practice shooting, then tinker with different loads/bullets, and you will find the ultimate package that fits you well
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Old 06-06-2011, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by cmatthews7 View Post
Which one feels better?
Well heck, if I had the chance to shoot each one, the question wouldn't have been asked

No ranges or gun clubs within an hour of here; even the police range is very restricted.

The only S&W semi I own is the 4609 and that short barrel has those 9mm bullets grouping like a star cluster instead of a shotgun blast That gun will become history, but it adds to your point that each gun has its own personality and, in a perfect world, I'd want to shoot each example and choose from that.

Reloading was a big passion of mine until we moved down to the beach and then Ivan removed everything I had to reload 30-something calibers. Agreed that mild loads are the most accurate; especially with pistols.
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I'd vote glock. I own a 21SF .45acp and love to shoot it. It will shoot any type ammo you put through it with no problem. As stated earlier, it is very easy to make the triggers better on those guns for a few dollars.
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Old 06-06-2011, 01:53 PM
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Glock!
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Wow, this thread is looking like a Valentine One love-fest; everybody that has a Glock likes it a lot!

The S&W is a straight-up SS pistol, but without it being made for a while, not very popular anymore.

The Colt is a one-off gun that was used for ISPC matches (so frame failure might not be a problem here, but thanks for the heads up). It has a custom barrel and compensator that makes it look great....and "ought" to give it the lightest recoil, right?

As doughnut said in a PM, that compensator throws all the blast upwards, so it would not be a good thing in a night-time shooting scene....but I close my eyes when I pull the trigger anyway

Seriously, the muzzle blast of a 10 is substantially bright where-ever it goes...and a bad guy would be seeing it too; along with feeling the blast, followed by feeling that warm wet stream running down his leg; either blood or pizz.

Is it just plain foolish to buy a gun that's been modified as well as used in pistol matches?

Again, recreational shooting is the most I'd ever do with it.
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Sorry, didn't realize you did not have the opportunity to shoot each of them. Based on your info, I'd go with the Glock, Colt, then something else. Sorry, but I have not had any luck with the Smith autos (semis). Buy the Glock, shoot it for a while, then look at doing some customizing (trigger work, laser sights, etc.). You can't really go wrong with that gun.
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It is ABSOLUTELY not foolish to buy a modified gun or one that has been used in pistol matches.

I have a Series 70 Colt that is a full custom I bought back in 1981. I also own a Pardini that was used and is still in competition. This year I was rated the top shooter in the league making the number one slot.
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It is ABSOLUTELY not foolish to buy a modified gun or one that has been used in pistol matches.

I have a Series 70 Colt that is a full custom I bought back in 1981. I also own a Pardini that was used and is still in competition. This year I was rated the top shooter in the league making the number one slot.
Yea, but making the old guy over 70 club is not saying much. You probably are the only one of your peers that can actually see the target...
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Have a safe full of guns. When we go to the range everyone wants the 9 shot 22 target pistol with a 7 inch barrel. My daughter smokes the cops side by side same distance.
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Yea, but making the old guy over 70 club is not saying much. You probably are the only one of your peers that can actually see the target...

I'm not lying. There's an AimPoint mounted to the top of it. I can't see crap. The 60 and 70 club uses them also.


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Have a safe full of guns. When we go to the range everyone wants the 9 shot 22 target pistol with a 7 inch barrel. My daughter smokes the cops side by side same distance.

Too long of a barrel for me shooting one handed. So much can change in that split second inside the barrel. My wife is a great two handed shooter at 40 feet, X's,10's, and 9's without problem but also using an AimPoint on "her" Model 41.

I've smoked a few cops (good friends) with my .45 versus their .380, 9mm, and .40 guns. I'm on par with those who take guns and shooting seriously.
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