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the good life 05-10-2011 10:36 PM

USPS losses...
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRIkt...&feature=feedu

I can relate. They lost my drivers license, insurance bill, etc. :roll

Seriously though, I thought the USPS was not funded by the government but had to stand on their own?

Many years ago, when companies like UPS were starting up, I remember when a New York company was using UPS for their first class mail and the USPS sued them as the USPS was supposed to have a monopoly on first class mail. The USPS actually won the suit! I thought this was a democracy, not a dictatorship?

dahlbebop 05-10-2011 10:44 PM

U.S. Postal Service is in really bad shape. Computers have hurt them more than anything. Most people do not mail anymore like they use to. They simply pay there bills online and by phone, text etc. There will also be a day that actual in your hand news papers are gone completely. The world is changing right before our eyes! Wonder if the government is going to ask the public to give them a bail out?:banghead:

aln 05-10-2011 11:11 PM

It's still the easiest cheapest way to send a package

t3rockhall 05-11-2011 05:09 AM

Yes, the USPS isn't paid for with tax money. Still, as someone on this forum said somewhere else, I'll give you or a private company a letter and 44 cents and expect you to deliver it across the country in three days.

Saturday delivery is a goner (who needs it anyway?). They SHOULD consider consolidating Post Offices in areas where there are a lot of small towns in a small area though. I have three in a 5 or so mile stretch where I live, all on the same street. Keep the routes but close two of the PO and enlarge the remaining one.

davedowneast 05-11-2011 05:24 AM

My GF has a small candle business. A few weeks ago, she mailed some "tarts" in a small flat rate box. A couple of days ago, she got a letter from USPS stating that the contents of the box had been "lost". Have you ever tried to open one of those boxes? "Lost", ya right! I hope the USPS worker that "opened" the box enjoys the tarts. She'll probably get back the $4.95 shipping, but the paperwork is ridicules. The contents weren't valuable, so it wasn't insured.

The ironic thing is I'm asthmatic and the candles and tarts can't be in our on home.

t3rockhall 05-11-2011 05:26 AM


Originally Posted by davedowneast (Post 3743951)
...tarts can't be in our on home.

My wife won't let me bring any tarts home, either.

A_Salt_Weapon 05-11-2011 07:46 AM

What is a tart?

Port Monster 05-11-2011 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by A_Salt_Weapon (Post 3744321)
What is a tart?

Hmmm - I think there are two "tarts" in this post. One is refering to a baked dish consisting of a filling over a pastry base with an open top not covered with pastry. The other is a play on words and is referring to a female who is attractive and has the air of being promiscuous, even if she isn't. Then of course there is the slang tart meaning retard.

fishingfun 05-11-2011 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by dahlbebop (Post 3743724)
U.S. Postal Service is in really bad shape. Computers have hurt them more than anything. Most people do not mail anymore like they use to. They simply pay there bills online and by phone, text etc. There will also be a day that actual in your hand news papers are gone completely. The world is changing right before our eyes! Wonder if the government is going to ask the public to give them a bail out?:banghead:

That's the BS they want people to think. Its just another government agency that over spends and has a bunch of people making too much and have too many benefits. Now that times have changed they can't adapt and change like others. Its easy to run a business when your a monopoly and have no competition.

hhi angler 05-11-2011 07:55 AM

USPS is loaded with so many unions and work rules it is tied up in its business. All of the union deal were made when Congress ran it like a fiefdom and they kept them when they were cut loose.

Dulcecita Lures 05-11-2011 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by aln (Post 3743733)
It's still the easiest cheapest way to send a package

True that. I use USPS Priority Mail to ship all my lures to folks and have never had a problem.

Capt.B 05-11-2011 08:50 AM

In my business we NEVER ship USPS. Mostly because they lose stuff and or damage it. Tracking of your package is non-existent or pitiful too, tracking is important if you want to find the crook that ripped you off, we found out the buck stops where the signatures end.....

UPS only..... we do "6 figures" worth of shipping per year. Too bad for the USPS, but the customer comes, the U.S. post office would have put us out of business 20 years go

NJFISH 05-11-2011 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by the good life (Post 3743721)

Seriously though, I thought the USPS was not funded by the government but had to stand on their own?

:rofl::rofl::rofl:...sorry

LMychajluk 05-11-2011 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by aln (Post 3743733)
It's still the easiest cheapest way to send a package

Provided you can get there.

The local tiny Post Office by my house is open 9:00-4:00. The larger office in the next town over is open 8:30 to 4:30. That's fine for local businesses and retirees, but I need to be on a train in the morning at 8:20, and get home no earlier than 6pm. If I want to send a package, I have to either wait until Saturday, when I can go in the morning, or I have to carry my package on the train to work, where I can take time out of my work schedule to go to the 'main' branch down the street from there. Once I get there, I'd be lucky if they weren't out of the boxes and labels I need to send my package. Two weeks ago, I even tried ordering the Priority Mail / Fixed Price boxes from the USPS web site so I could pack stuff up at home, and the web site was SOLD OUT! :banghead:

The local FedEx/Kinko and UPS offices, on the other hand, are open early in the morning and until at least around 8pm. Screw the PO, I'll pay the extra $1 to ship something via FedEx or UPS just for the convienience of it.

On a side note, the town gives the Post Office employees (of which there can't be more than 5-6) a whole block to park during the week, spots which otherwise could be used by residents getting on the train at the station down the street. If I have the day off during the week and drive down this street, there are 2 cars parked there... (Note - nobody gives me free parking near where I work. If I was to drive to work, I would have to pay over $230/mo to park near my office.)

So, I say screw 'em....

LI Sound Grunt 05-11-2011 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by aln (Post 3743733)
It's still the easiest cheapest way to send a package

:thumbsup:
lets face it This is why they were created - to bring us (the US) together. Just like rural electrification and tons of other regulations (old airline service comes to mine) and programs without which we would be at the mercy of geography and often ruthless corporations with different goals than public service. Electricity from the TVA is less than one third of what we pay thanks to Uncle Sam. Not trying to start a war here but there is some history and some real good reasons for some government services.

t3rockhall 05-11-2011 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by LI Sound Grunt (Post 3744976)
:thumbsup:
lets face it This is why they were created - to bring us (the US) together. Just like rural electrification and tons of other regulations (old airline service comes to mine) and programs without which we would be at the mercy of geography and often ruthless corporations with different goals than public service. Electricity from the TVA is less than one third of what we pay thanks to Uncle Sam. Not trying to start a war here but there is some history and some real good reasons for some government services.

Just look at our railroads to see what kind of mess "competition" can create. Each railroad was/is its own fiefdom. Goods had to be handed off from one carrier to another to get anywhere. At least Eisenhower brought the country together with the interstate system of roads.

Uncas 05-11-2011 01:16 PM

USPS should be closed down completely. Private contracters could easily take up the slack, and the service would be a whole lot better, and cheaper, too.....

aln 05-11-2011 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by Uncas (Post 3745085)
USPS should be closed down completely. Private contracters could easily take up the slack, and the service would be a whole lot better, and cheaper, too.....

The only reason UPS is anywhere near competitive in pricing is because of the mail system. Take that away and you will have a monopoly.

Sudden Strike Fishing 05-12-2011 08:51 AM

I ship almost all of my packages via USPS, mostly Priority Flat Rate because I can ship 70 lbs. of lead products for $15.95. All my labels are done and paid for online so when I go to the Post Office I just put the packages on the counter they have for prepaid shipping items and I am out the door without having to wait in line. I have not lost or had a package damaged yet. The worst that happened was one was delayed for about two weeks for whatever reason.

bjm9818 05-12-2011 09:28 AM

I opened a PO box last month at the Post Office down the street from my office. I went in this morning to check it for the first time. Key got stuck in the lock and it took me 2 min and a lot of strength to get it back out. Knocked on the door where you would pick up a package and the lady at the counter yells you have to wait in line with everybody else..... So 15 min later I finally get up to the only station at the counter that is open(there are 4 people walking back and forth behind her doing who knows what).

She looks puzzled takes the key and walks to the back. 5 min later she walks thru the door and she tries the key and also a extra one she brought out. Neither work. Says she wll have to put in a work order to get it fixed. OK great how about giving me my mail while I wait who knows how long before it gets fixed... She says I can't pass mail over the counter you need to use your key to get it out of the box. Post office regulations! after 2 minute arguement I realize Im not going to get anywhere I just leave...WTF!!!!!!!


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