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So if you got two felony charges associated with the grow operation what attire would you wear to court? Sweatpants and a T-shirt with a big pot leaf on it?
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I got a mandatory summons to appear as witness in court a few weeks ago. The Judge and I were the best people in court. I had on dockers, button up shirt and boat shoes, Judge was wearing rone and could have been nekkid under the thing. People who were appearing for all kinds of serious offenses and the lawyers (defense and prosecution) were dressed like homeless people.

It was amazing that they would make no effort to offer the most minor suggestion that they gave a $hit. The idiots could';t even say YES or YES SIR when addressing the Judge.

The schmucks deserved to go to jail for being stupid--forget twhatever they were charged with, and the lawyers were equally dirt-ball looking types. If an attorney I hired came to defend me dressed and groomed like some of these jerks I'd be giving him the Trump treatment -- you're FIRED.

And this Judge was sending them to jail without mercy--the'd sentenc them adn the bailiff came up and cuffed them andaway they went.

What an education. I had to go home and take a shower after that dog and pony show -- what a bunch of numb nutz
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"Your Honor it was nothing but a bunch of plants"
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I have practiced criminal defense for 14 years and two of my favorite personal experiences are:
1. My client was set for trial on a domestic battery case and showed up in a t-shirt that said "don't judge me". I suggested a change and he declined my advise. Hilarity ensued.
2. I was arguing a motion to suppress and the officer was asked what drew his attention to my clients's truck. "Well, Your Honor, the defendant's vehicle had a bumper sticker that read 'Man made beer, God made marijuana, who do you trust'". The entire courtroom was howling. It took me five minutes to regain my composure. Shockingly I lost both cases.
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Reminds me of the little turd that stole my wife's car. This punk was 16 and full of attitude, the poor little rich kid type. He was slouched down in his chair with a scowl on his face that made me want to give him a good smack. The public defender asked him repeatedly to sit up before the judge came into the courtroom.

The mom was there, crying of course. Judge asked why the boy didn't have private counsel. Mom said dad refused to pay for another lawyer. Apparently the kid had been in trouble before and the dad was tired of it. Judge said if this went to trial, county would lien the family home for expenses. They did a plea bargain which to me was a slap on the wrist, community service and restitution. He needed his butt whipped. He probably moved on to bigger and better crime.
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That guy was probably so F's it really didn't matter. I served on a domestic battery jury a decade ago and being just out of college and my first jury summons I figured I should wear work attire..so I had a suite on. Big mistake. I was the only juror who was picked by both sides with out even be asked to speak.
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Default and speaking of schmucks...

I was on a jury panel once in an armed robbery case of an automotive parts store. The defendant didn't have an attorney and represented himself. When one on the parts store employees was cross examined by the defendant who asked him if he was sure they had arrested the right man, the employee responded by saying that he was sure as the robber had held them up twice before! Yes, there were giggles in the courtroom. Yup, you can't teach stupid.
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Originally Posted by tokinred View Post
I suggested a change and he declined my advise. Hilarity ensued.
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I would not take your advise either but I would take your advice...
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Originally Posted by tokinred View Post

2. I was arguing a motion to suppress and the officer was asked what drew his attention to my clients's truck. "Well, Your Honor, the defendant's vehicle had a bumper sticker that read 'Man made beer, God made marijuana, who do you trust'". The entire courtroom was howling. It took me five minutes to regain my composure. Shockingly I lost both cases.

That is hilarious
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Why are the names, which are printed in a newspaper, redacted?
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The article say Sentinel staff writer, I would imagine thats the Orlando Sentinel just google the authors name it should come up...
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I went to court once in Beafort, NC. Courtroom Packed. Judge walks in and tell people that they need to be dressed appropriatly to come to court. No shorts, No t-shirts or tank tops. No flip flops. Announces that those not dressed appropriatly needd to leave imediatly and change and return before their case is called.

About 75% of the people in the room had to leave!

I had on a dress shirt and tie. I was finished in about 5 minutes!
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spent a month on a federal jury -big time heroin case. Highlight of the case was when one of the jurors kept correcting the public defender when he confused names.

Judge was almost in tears as she explained why we could not participate in the actual trial.

I have to say it was a pretty amazing experience. Easy on me, as I was just home from college, and still looking for work. Not sure I could do it now, but glad that I did.
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I went to court in Texas in a very small county. The judge had a reputation. On the door to the court room it had the dress requirements to enter the court room.

The judge walks into the courtroom looks around at the people with shorts, t-shirts, etc (women were required to wear dresses). He calls them all up one by one and lines them up, then directs the bailiff to arrest all of them for being in contempt of court. Some of them were there to support their family members. I was floored. I am so glad I was dress nice.

Can you imagine going to court with your husband to support him and you go to jail for not having a dress on? This was deep in the heart of Texas.
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As a very, very young attorney I represented a 18 year old auto thief at a revocation hearing. He had been caught several times before but was previously given a number of second chancees by way of several programs then available to young offenders. He was given 3 years probation on his last auto theft conviction...............

In my case he had burglarized several cars at an apartment complex. Vandalized them and stole their radios. He then stole one of the cars and drove it to an auto salvage yard apparently hoping to sell the stolen radios.............He arrived before the place opened and fell asleep in the stolen car. Meanwhile the owner of the car had been driving the streets hoping to locate his car. He spotted the his car in the salvage yard parking lot and called the police. About 3-4 police cars arrived and one of the officers woke him. He was about as quilty as he could possibly be...........and caught red handed.

At the hearing the judge of course revoked his previous 3 year probation. Allowed him to plead quilty on the several other cases against him and allowed him to serve the prison time on those cases concurrently with the revocated probation............

I thought this was quite a deal considering the judges remark; "Son you have been given a lot of chances and now its about time you served some "hard time"..........

I put a lot of time and effort into the case and my young clients remark to me was; If I had a good attorney I would not be going to jail............

That was the last criminal case I had and wound up working for a large national company for 40 years..........
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Originally Posted by Picaroon View Post
As a very, very young attorney I represented a 18 year old auto thief at a revocation hearing. He had been caught several times before but was previously given a number of second chancees by way of several programs then available to young offenders. He was given 3 years probation on his last auto theft conviction...............

In my case he had burglarized several cars at an apartment complex. Vandalized them and stole their radios. He then stole one of the cars and drove it to an auto salvage yard apparently hoping to sell the stolen radios.............He arrived before the place opened and fell asleep in the stolen car. Meanwhile the owner of the car had been driving the streets hoping to locate his car. He spotted the his car in the salvage yard parking lot and called the police. About 3-4 police cars arrived and one of the officers woke him. He was about as quilty as he could possibly be...........and caught red handed.

At the hearing the judge of course revoked his previous 3 year probation. Allowed him to plead quilty on the several other cases against him and allowed him to serve the prison time on those cases concurrently with the revocated probation............

I thought this was quite a deal considering the judges remark; "Son you have been given a lot of chances and now its about time you served some "hard time"..........

I put a lot of time and effort into the case and my young clients remark to me was; If I had a good attorney I would not be going to jail............

That was the last criminal case I had and wound up working for a large national company for 40 years..........
Relevance to the thread??? ;?
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Originally Posted by atcfris View Post
Relevance to the thread??? ;?
people do and say some funny things in court?;?
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I would not take your advise either but I would take your advice...
Touche, Cracker, touche.

Also, I was sharing this thread with my partner, and she reminded me of the most memorable piece of court attire she had seen. She was trying an arson case. The arson investigator, who felt that the state should have only have charged one co-defendant and not her client, wore a tie during his testimony that had the scales of justice on it along with the words "NOT GUILTY". Prosecutor was not amused. The case took so long to get to trial that the investigator had been retired for a year or more, so he didn't care. That happened in 2007 and folks still talk about from time to time.

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Touche, Cracker, touche.

Also, I was sharing this thread with my partner, and she reminded me of the most memorable piece of court attire she had seen. She was trying an arson case. The arson investigator, who felt that the state should have only have charged one co-defendant and not her client, wore a tie during his testimony that had the scales of justice on it along with the words "NOT GUILTY". Prosecutor was not amused. The case took so long to get to trial that the investigator had been retired for a year or more, so he didn't care. That happened in 2007 and folks still talk about from time to time.
I had a depo today on a case from December. I swear to you I thought the defense attorney was going to ask if the sky was blue that day and what I had for lunch.... He asked me what the last thing I did before I drove away from the scene I told him with a straight face "closed my car door and started my vehicle." Sometimes you gotta stand at the plate and call your shot....

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