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Old 04-30-2011, 06:45 PM
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I know some of us gripe about shortcuts used to make our boats but today I think I found the ultimate cheap ass short cut

I have a garden tiller, MTD or something from Lowes, and I guess it is about 10 years old. Never had a problem and meets my needs fine.

Well today I was going to plow my spot for my tomatoes and had a hard time getting it started, damn ethanol I am sure, but my pull string broke.

Well went to store and picked up new spark plug and like any good ole redneck I figured I could take the recoil pull cord off and wrap the string and start it.

Well changed the spark plug and got a screwdriver to remove the cover and housing for starter cord and believe it or not the damn thing is POP RIVETED to the motor.

I can not believe some "engineer" came up with this freaking bright idea. I mean sooner or later every starter cord is going to break

I am sure I can drill them out and then repair it with screws but that is the dumbest damn thing I have ever seen

I am betting Bayliner was in the small engine business about 10 years ago, Briggs and Stratton surely is not that damn stupid
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pop rivet must have cost a nickel where a screw cost a dime. That's savings right there!!!! LOL
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If it's 10 years old, it was probably made here in the USA as well. The Chinese shit wouldn't last 5 because that pop rivet would have been made of plastic or pot metal.
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Originally Posted by tprice View Post
I know some of us gripe about shortcuts used to make our boats but today I think I found the ultimate cheap ass short cut

I have a garden tiller, MTD or something from Lowes, and I guess it is about 10 years old. Never had a problem and meets my needs fine.

Well today I was going to plow my spot for my tomatoes and had a hard time getting it started, damn ethanol I am sure, but my pull string broke.

Well went to store and picked up new spark plug and like any good ole redneck I figured I could take the recoil pull cord off and wrap the string and start it.

Well changed the spark plug and got a screwdriver to remove the cover and housing for starter cord and believe it or not the damn thing is POP RIVETED to the motor.

I can not believe some "engineer" came up with this freaking bright idea. I mean sooner or later every starter cord is going to break

I am sure I can drill them out and then repair it with screws but that is the dumbest damn thing I have ever seen

I am betting Bayliner was in the small engine business about 10 years ago, Briggs and Stratton surely is not that damn stupid

I bet it was the cheapest one you could find, you got yourself a bargain
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Same thing on my kids gokart motor. Tried the screw trick bud that didn't work. Bought a new pull start.
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Originally Posted by blackfinmike View Post
I bet it was the cheapest one you could find, you got yourself a bargain
Not really, seem like then I paid about $600 or so for it.

Works great but still scratching my ass over this one

Am i correct that I will need to drill the pop rivets out and then when I put the housing back on use some short sheet metal screws;?
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Not really, seem like then I paid about $600 or so for it.

Works great but still scratching my ass over this one

Am i correct that I will need to drill the pop rivets out and then when I put the housing back on use some short sheet metal screws;?
Yes sir!!! The drill bit will just be oversized to the hole in the center of the rivet, easy fix!!!! Good luck
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Take the entire cover off and have the string replaced. There more than likely is nothing behind that recoil that you can rap a string around. You will find a ratchet type assembly with a square hub that the recoil fits over.
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Well changed the spark plug and got a screwdriver to remove the cover and housing for starter cord and believe it or not the damn thing is POP RIVETED to the motor.
Those little engines vibrate like crazy. Are you sure a pop rivet isn't the right fastener for the job? If it lasted ten years, I'd be inclined to replace it with a new pop rivet.
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The fact that your MTD is still functioning after 10 years is remarkable. Merchandise today is built to be replaced, not repaired. They want you to buy a new mower that will last 5 years and then buy another. Keeping parts to repair 5+ year old items is too expensive. I don't like it, it's just the way it is.
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MTD are designed to be throw away products not remove and replace parts. It is not bad engineering but the marketing/accounting Dept's run the product development.
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How's your lucky streak been holding out? The reason why I say that is because, you know full well when you drill out a rivot you are only drilling out the front half and you end up pushing the back half inside whatever the rivot is holding onto. Wouldn't it be the shits to have the back half of the rivot get jammed up in the mag and tear that up. ;?
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Shucks I ain't seen a mower/engine that you could remove just the recoil starter in a bunch of years. You have to remove the entire engine cover/shroud. Been that way for a long time.

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