Notices

Plumbing estimate sticker shock

Old 04-06-2011, 10:12 AM
  #1  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: New York, Greatest State in the Union
Posts: 1,138
Default Plumbing estimate sticker shock

I'm remodeling a half bath in my home and need some plumbing work done:

1) Remove and Install Toilet
2) Replace toilet shutoff valve
3) Change from pedestal to wall mounted sink
a. Move two supply lines over 2 inches
b. Move drain over two inches
c. Mount sink
4) Install sink & faucet

I received three estimates, $850, $750 and $650.

It's been a while since I've done any plumbing work, do these seem reasonable?

Thanks in advance!
tcontic is offline  
Old 04-06-2011, 10:17 AM
  #2  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 15,655
Default

What are the drain and water lines made out of, and how easy are they to access? How old is the system? It seems like the plumbers are expecting a full day's job or maybe a bit more than a day ( if there are surprises).
bamaboy473 is online now  
Old 04-06-2011, 10:21 AM
  #3  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: New York, Greatest State in the Union
Posts: 1,138
Default

Originally Posted by bamaboy473 View Post
What are the drain and water lines made out of, and how easy are they to access? How old is the system? It seems like the plumbers are expecting a full day's job or maybe a bit more than a day ( if there are surprises).
All supply and drain lines are copper, original to the house about 30 years old. All pipes are exposed and accessible, room is gutted. Pipes seem solid, all estimates are to use existing copper pipes.
tcontic is offline  
Old 04-06-2011, 10:24 AM
  #4  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 15,655
Default

I'm not plumber (as another thread proves ) but I bet that the cost of copper has a good bit to do with the estimate if that's a labor/material price.
bamaboy473 is online now  
Old 04-06-2011, 10:32 AM
  #5  
Senior MemberCaptains Club MemberPLEDGER
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 6,194
Default

Originally Posted by tcontic View Post
I'm remodeling a half bath in my home and need some plumbing work done:

1) Remove and Install Toilet
2) Replace toilet shutoff valve
3) Change from pedestal to wall mounted sink
a. Move two supply lines over 2 inches
b. Move drain over two inches
c. Mount sink
4) Install sink & faucet

I received three estimates, $850, $750 and $650.

It's been a while since I've done any plumbing work, do these seem reasonable?

Thanks in advance!
Where are you, because here, those prices would be on the low side for materials+labor.
RI Builder is offline  
Old 04-06-2011, 10:34 AM
  #6  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 5,096
Default

700 isn't a bad price. If the place is gutted he will have to be there twice(rough in and then install) Install a sink and vanity can be a PITA depending on what faucet you go with.
bjm9818 is offline  
Old 04-06-2011, 10:35 AM
  #7  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: New York, Greatest State in the Union
Posts: 1,138
Default

Originally Posted by RI Builder View Post
Where are you, because here, those prices would be on the low side for materials+labor.
Long Island, NY
tcontic is offline  
Old 04-06-2011, 10:36 AM
  #8  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: New York, Greatest State in the Union
Posts: 1,138
Default

Originally Posted by bjm9818 View Post
700 isn't a bad price. If the place is gutted he will have to be there twice(rough in and then install) Install a sink and vanity can be a PITA depending on what faucet you go with.
Yes, he'll have to be on site twice. Complete rough in and cap off pipes, then finish installation.
tcontic is offline  
Old 04-06-2011, 10:39 AM
  #9  
Senior MemberCaptains Club MemberPLEDGER
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 6,194
Default

Originally Posted by tcontic View Post
Long Island, NY

Materials and labor - low

Labor only, in line and decent prices.

They are factoring in 2 visits to site and if no GC probably a little PITA cushion for dealing directly with a home owner acting as GC.
RI Builder is offline  
Old 04-06-2011, 11:53 AM
  #10  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: South Florida
Posts: 9,140
Default

Originally Posted by tcontic View Post
Yes, he'll have to be on site twice. Complete rough in and cap off pipes, then finish installation.
Split the job into two pieces and $650 seems fairly reasonable. The "real" plumbing work looks pretty minor, it's more the hassle of coming back twice and then doing things like hanging a wall mounted sink etc.

Of course, it does seem like pretty simple work that a 'handyman' type might do for $250-350.
Flot is offline  
Old 04-06-2011, 12:14 PM
  #11  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
ladyjane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: lake champlain vermont
Posts: 30,178
Default

up here those prices would be low
ladyjane is offline  
Old 04-06-2011, 12:48 PM
  #12  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Naples/Ft Myers
Posts: 1,415
Default

Pick the guy in the middle, call him up and tell him the lower bid was $650 but you like him best.... and you'd like to give him the job for $700. He'll probably say yes. If not- hire him anyway!
Ft Myers Ken is offline  
Old 04-06-2011, 12:55 PM
  #13  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: MA and ME
Posts: 16,795
Default

I wouldn't bitch.


I also don't know any poor plumbers.
Mist-Rest is offline  
Old 04-06-2011, 12:56 PM
  #14  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: cape coral, fl
Posts: 5,487
Default

Those estimates seem pretty low considering most service companies are going to charge approx. $70 to $100 per hour for labor and he has to make two trips to complete job.
bsh102 is online now  
Old 04-06-2011, 01:14 PM
  #15  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: CT
Posts: 18,360
Default

Yea I think it has nothing to do with padding it for a direct customer. The guy wants a days pay and 2 trips - seems fair to me. And sure a handy man with no overhead can do it for less- but you gotta know the right guy. The fact that they are close tells you its probbaly a decent fair price. Just had a 500 buck euro style hi capacity radiator installed to replace a small baseboard and had new circuator pump gaskets, a new air removal system (forget what they are called) and 4 new brass faucet/bleeders for the 4 different zones and associated parts and bleeding for 1600 P and L. 2 guys here for the better part of a day.
LI Sound Grunt is offline  
Old 04-06-2011, 01:39 PM
  #16  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Between Richmond and Williamsburg
Posts: 2,964
Default

For new work, my plumber gets $350 to $450 per fixture, not including the fixture, depending on the house. A fixture is a toilet, sink, , shower, tub, washing machine, pretty much anything that requires a hot and cold waterline and drain to be run to it. In this case, you have 2 fixtures. But this is not new work, and its hard to compare to normal pricing, but I'd say they are all inline. The last thing you want is some jack leg to hook the stuff up.. If you've done any plumbing before, I don't see why you couldn't do this.
twobyfour is offline  
Old 04-06-2011, 01:47 PM
  #17  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
THT sponsor
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Venice, Florida
Posts: 16,865
Default

I would pay myself the money and do it. Nothing to tough there.
Mr. Demeanor is offline  
Old 04-06-2011, 02:03 PM
  #18  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Pensacola
Posts: 2,122
Default

Originally Posted by tcontic View Post
I'm remodeling a half bath in my home and need some plumbing work done:

1) Remove and Install Toilet
2) Replace toilet shutoff valve
3) Change from pedestal to wall mounted sink
a. Move two supply lines over 2 inches
b. Move drain over two inches
c. Mount sink
4) Install sink & faucet

I received three estimates, $850, $750 and $650.

It's been a while since I've done any plumbing work, do these seem reasonable?

Thanks in advance!
Take out the 2 inch move and you could save a bunch.
DoubleO7 is offline  
Old 04-06-2011, 02:15 PM
  #19  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: New York, Greatest State in the Union
Posts: 1,138
Default

Originally Posted by DoubleO7 View Post
Take out the 2 inch move and you could save a bunch.
Not an option as the exposed plumbing would not be centered on the wall mounted sink. My plumbing skills are poor at best, solder and fire are not my friends I know my limitations.

Tom
tcontic is offline  
Old 04-06-2011, 02:22 PM
  #20  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: louisville Ky
Posts: 2,390
Default

Those prices are not expensive, I would trust the one for $850.00. Plumbing and electrical are usually the most expensive sub on any project. Sounds reasonable for my area. Hell, I don't leave the house for less than $500.00 a day to cover fuel, overhead, experience, insurance, plus material and he has already been there once just to bid the job.etc,etc,etc

Originally Posted by tcontic View Post
Not an option as the exposed plumbing would not be centered on the wall mounted sink. My plumbing skills are poor at best, solder and fire are not my friends I know my limitations.

Tom
dahlbebop is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread