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Old 12-10-2010, 01:17 PM
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Terrible tragedy in CT but I really don't know what to make of the girl's father's 'tribute'. I am sad for the families but perplexed by his...... I don't know what to call it. Display of grief?

GRISWOLD, Conn. -- Funeral arrangements were being made Thursday for the teenagers who were killed in a crash on Tuesday in Griswold.

While friends and family prepare to say goodbye, mourners exchanged hugs and tears on Wednesday during a candlelight vigil for four teens who were killed and another that was critically wounded in a crash on Tuesday.
State police said the driver who was killed, identified as 16-year-old John Clapper, only had a learner's permit and not a license. According to state law, anyone driving with only a learner's permit can only have a parent or guardian in the car.
Police have not determined the official cause of the crash, but said a slight elevation in the road may have caused Clapper to lose control and slam head-on into a tree.
The others who died were identified as 16-year-old Sativa Cornell, 16-year-old Dillon Clifford and Steven Szklarz, who was 15. The surviving passenger, 16-year-old Joel Gallup, was hospitalized in critical condition. Cornell was the front-seat passenger, while the other three victims were in the back seat, officials said.
All of the victims in the crash were students at Griswold High School, which has a student population of around 700.
Grief counselors have been made available to faculty, staff and students at Griswold to help cope with the tragic loss.
Hundreds of friends and family of the victims were on hand for the candlelight vigil that was held at the Griswold Veterans Memorial Park. The group observed a moment of silence and prayed for the victims.
According to social media websites, Clapper and Cornell were dating. Police said the car involved in the crash was registered to Cornell's mother, Gina Pelletier.
Now, balloons, flowers, Christmas ornaments and letters of hope have been left at the scene of the crash. A steady flow of cars have been seen at the site of the crash so people can pay their respects.
"The families and the community have banded together like I've never seen before," said First Selectman Phillip Anthony. "That's heartening to the families of the victims as well."
Eugene Cornell, the father of Sativa, grieved quietly with his son at the scene of the crash on Thursday.
Eugene Cornell left a smokey burnout on the roadway as he was leaving the scene of the crash. He said it was in tribute to his daughter, who he said liked seeing burnouts.
Students returned to the high school the day after the crash to a different atmosphere. Students said it was so quiet you could hear a pin drop, and many students even left school early because they could not deal with the overwhelming emotions brought upon by the tragedy.
"It's a huge loss to our community and everybody in our school and everybody in our town is feeling it right now," Superintendent of Schools Paul Freeman said.
Police said Clapper was driving southbound on Route 201 and lost control of the car on a short, narrow straightaway after traveling over a small crest in the road.
It's not clear if any of the teens were wearing seat belts.
Szklarz's brother left a piece of paper at the crash site that had a picture of the two with a note underneath.
"My brother, my best friend, life will not be the same, all our plans for the future, all our great memories," the note read. "Spending my summer vacation and all of last year together was the best time of my life. Steven Walter Szklarz will remain in my heart until the day I die."
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Old 12-10-2010, 03:14 PM
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For some reason that seems to be the thing to do in Ct. the last couple years or so. We've had a few teen deaths in town the last couple years and you should see all the hole shot marks on the road in front of the funeral home. Don't know why or if it's a common "tribute" in any other states. Like you I'm not real comfortable with it. Especially if the teen's death was auto related. It kinda says "hey look at me I'm next".
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What gets me is that he had his 12 year old son with him. What kind of example does that set? I just don't get it. It must be some misguided/irresponsible display of grief.
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His kid was named Sativa?
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His kid was named Sativa?
Yes, she is a girl.
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What gets me is that he had his 12 year old son with him. What kind of example does that set? I just don't get it. It must be some misguided/irresponsible display of grief.
12 you ass not to smart are you 14 and he races grow someballs say this to my face
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Originally Posted by KeithS View Post
For some reason that seems to be the thing to do in Ct. the last couple years or so. We've had a few teen deaths in town the last couple years and you should see all the hole shot marks on the road in front of the funeral home. Don't know why or if it's a common "tribute" in any other states. Like you I'm not real comfortable with it. Especially if the teen's death was auto related. It kinda says "hey look at me I'm next".
aaaaaaaaaaaa east hampton nice i will be paying you a vist
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Originally Posted by SATIVA View Post
aaaaaaaaaaaa east hampton nice i will be paying you a vist

Easy there turbo...Just curious about your name...Like it. Were your parents hippies?
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12 you ass not to smart are you 14 and he races grow someballs say this to my face
Let's see, who is this.......reincarnated?

Jane?.................na
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This hit fairly close to home for us as our son has his learners permit.

I honestly don't know with some parents though. My son tells me that the amount of pot and alcohol use in his school is huge ! Not on occasion, but a lot of kids get high and drunk every weekend.

How their parents don't see this amazes me. Maybe they're drunk or high themselves. Our town is a upper-middleclass town in CT where you'd think this stuff shouldn't happen, but i suppose I'm naive.
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We will have to check the handbook on How to React When You Bury a Child.
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aaaaaaaaaaaa east hampton nice i will be paying you a vist
We don't need jerks that threaten people; even from behind their keyboard.
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Originally Posted by bamaboy473 View Post
We don't need jerks that threaten people; even from behind their keyboard.
She just wants to bring her barbie dolls over and play that's all.
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Yeah- and in some parts of the world, people tear their clothes when they lose a loved one, in other parts they have a party. Traditions vary- who are we to question someone else's when it doesn't hurt us?
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I have 3 young kids and this one thing I hope I never have to deal with. My oldest just turned 16 and will be driving soon. They had a seminar earlier this year for parents and kids who will be getting their licenses. It was geared more toward what parents should expect for insurance and what coverages were available and how to go about insuring the kids.. They had an insurance agent there going over everything. After he was done, they had a retired state trooper there to talk about safety.. He said its a proven fact that 7 out of 10 teens WILL have a wreck the first year they get their license. This could be anything from a fender bender to a serious crash.. This seemed really high to me.. The high school has about 300 kids. And, already 2 of her friends have been in wrecks that I know about.. The trooper also said somthing else that sticks with me: " In 40 yrs, I've only pulled 2 people who died out of a vehicle that were wearing seatbelts, and I've worked a many wreck."
May god bless those who lost loved ones.
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What's gonna happen when someone goes to leave a "tribute" and ends up buried themselves in some wierd accident. Also is a "one wheel wonder" a tribute or does it need to be posi?

Whatever, to each their own.
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Man, talk about going as low as you can go on the "low life scale". Taking a dead girls name and trying to goad people on a public forum. Absolutely unbelievable.
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Terrible tragedy in CT but I really don't know what to make of the girl's father's 'tribute'.

Eugene Cornell, the father of Sativa, grieved quietly with his son at the scene of the crash on Thursday.
Eugene Cornell left a smokey burnout on the roadway as he was leaving the scene of the crash. He said it was in tribute to his daughter, who he said liked seeing burnouts.

This is your bold/underline from your OP. ^^^^^

You are questioning the way this man grieves for his daughter / reacts to her death. If it were me, I don't know what I would do. I know exactly what I would tell someone who did question my reaction. Can you figure it out?
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This is your bold/underline from your OP. ^^^^^

You are questioning the way this man grieves for his daughter / reacts to her death. If it were me, I don't know what I would do. I know exactly what I would tell someone who did question my reaction. Can you figure it out?
I still question that reaction. He had his 12 year old son with him. Burnouts, reckless operation of a motor vehicle at the scene where his daughter lost her life by reckless operation of a motor vehicle.
Don't make this in to something it's not and don't think I don't have compassion for the family. I am certainly not going to e-mail the father nor would I approach him and tell him I disapprove of his grieving tactics. I am putting his action up for discussion.
He certainly showed no example to his son and if he can't teach his children responsibility how are they going to learn?
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Down here in VA if you are under 18 you are only allow one other passenger under 18 unless an adult is in the car.
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