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Old 11-11-2010, 06:49 AM
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Default Minivan; Sienna, Odyssey, or Quest?

We are looking to purchase a late model used minivan for a whole list of reasons; 2 kids. 5 labradors, mpg, etc. we looked at small suv's and the subaru outback and decided that there wasnt enough room for our lifestyle. im looking for opinions, pros and cons of the above listed vehicles as well as real world mpg, and problems that you may have had. thanks in advance. andy
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With all that to haul you need a bus. My wife drives the Odyssey and loves the vehicle. Very smooth, quite ride and great fuel mileage. We travel a great deal and keep the third row seats down which provides for great storage of luggage and all the other crap we carry on trips. If I were buying today I would select the Odyssey.
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My friend owns the Honda and swears by it, there was aproblem a few years back with the van only using a certain tire or something that was very, very expensive. There was a law suit as Honda never disclosed this info and Honda lost. (this is what was told to me) If this is true just make sure you don't purchase one from those model years.
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Current issue of Motor Trend tests Honda, Toyota and Dodge. This year Toyota won, last year Honda, year before Toyota, etc,etc,. Wifey drives a Toyota; no problems, lotta room, 3rd row seats disappear, 2nd row are removable (ugh!) or flip forward. A minivan is much more economical and versatile if you don't need to tow and can get past the macho thing. Either the Toyota or Honda will be great; Honda did have a tranny problem back around 2005/6. Maybe someone can give the exact years.
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I have owned both Honda Odyssey and a Sienna. The Sienna was the previous generation with the 3.0 and those motors had been known to be sludge motors if the oil was not changed regularly and the proper viscosity wasn't used. But after 146k with the van, it was great and no motor problems. The newer 3.3 motors are not known for that problem. Our Odyssey was an '04 model that gave us 34k trouble free miles. I really liked the way it handled. It was traded in on our Tundra. The Quest is the ugly duckling of the group and has shown some problems. it was one of the first vehicles designed by Renault (they own a controlling interest in Nissan) and not one of their better jobs. They are rated worse than average in quality and frequency of repair...
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We bought a 2007 Odyssey last December. My wife and kids absolutly love it. On the rare occasions I get to drive it, I'd say it drives so much better than ever expected.

We have dealt with a couple of recall issues, but other than that it has been excellent.
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CR rated the Sienna and Honda at the top for years and the choice between them was usually made only by some very small difference, and they had to choose one or the other. I had a Sienna and loved it. It rode like a Caddy, handled like a sports car, had VERY adjustable seats, and averaged just over 20 mpg with the 3.0. The most amazing thing about the Sienna was getting in and out. Sitting in the seat, you open the door and just stand up. It's hard to explain, but there's no climbing in and out. I recommend driving both to see which one fits you better.
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Buy American, we love our Chevy Venture, and I'm a Ford guy. It's been a great van, several long trips, over 90k on our 2002 and no major repairs, brakes, tires, wipers that sort of thing. Been great to us.
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My wife has a Sienna Limited, we have had it for 5 years and it still drives like a dream and has been totally trouble-free
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Buy American, we love our Chevy Venture, and I'm a Ford guy. It's been a great van, several long trips, over 90k on our 2002 and no major repairs, brakes, tires, wipers that sort of thing. Been great to us.
Not here to rag on your Venture, but you have been lucky. So many of people had problems with them they had to change the name. Can you say Uplander? If you were to ask ten people to name the GM minivan, maybe one would be able to. Also, sales were so dismal due to the poor workmanship they stopped making it altogether. And Ford didn't win a lot of people over with the Windstar. Even Chrysler/Dodge the original can't seem to make a good one nowadays. Right now Toyota and Honda have this market down pat...

But I sure do love owning Ford stock right now...
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thanks for the info guy. seems like mostly wives driving them and that would be the same thing here. anybody have any real world mpg numbers? buying american is not something i would even remotely consider. as was stated above the japanese and even the koreans have this market, not to mention the fact that buying a car from government motors or the uaw owned chrysler makes me want to vomit
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Have had 2 Odysseys an older 2003 one and a 2005 which we still have - 90,ooo on the odometer and no problems. Leather is still in great shape as is the rest of the car which says a lot given we've used it for 5 years, loaded with kids, trips, towing, camping etc.
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The motors are almost identical. 3.3 vs 3.5 for most of the late model ones you may find. They both weigh in around 4500# Their motors will be almost equal in horsepower with around 250 and their mileage will be close to identical with the Sienna squeaking out about 1 mpg better...
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I just bought my wife a new odyssey for our wed aniversary. I didn't like the new toyota's with those strange tracks for the back seats. You know everything known to man will get in there.
Also my wife is short, so only the honda came with moveable pedals. We had a pilot before, but the mini-van rides better and you don't hear much road noise
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Time to shred up your man card!

Maybe a CUV instead?
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As I've posted here before, our 2005 Honda Odyssey Touring is a PIECE OF SHIT!!!

(I used to say "POS", but I have graduated to spelling it out LOUDLY! )


Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've heard it all before... I must be the only owner of a PIECE OF SHIT Odyssey in the country!

Well, if you follow any of the Odyssey forums, then you'll know that I am not.

The good news is that the PIECE OF SHIT Odyssey is just about out of warranty, so we will be replacing it very soon! HURRAY!!!!!
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Originally Posted by 08087 View Post
My friend owns the Honda and swears by it, there was a problem a few years back with the van only using a certain tire or something that was very, very expensive. There was a law suit as Honda never disclosed this info and Honda lost. (this is what was told to me) If this is true just make sure you don't purchase one from those model years.









Your friend dealt with the POS Michelin PAX tire system. So did we.

Yes, a class action lawsuit was filed against Honda and Michelin. We "won".

Or should I say that the class action lawyers actually won. The PIECE OF SHIT Odyssey owners that actually had to put up with the POS PAX tires got very little relief from the lawsuit.

Actually, I got exactly $170 worth of "relief"...

If you want an Odyssey, get one that either does not have PAX tires or one that has already been "de-paxed".

You've been warned!




Oh, BTW, the PIECE OF SHIT Odyssey is my wife's daily driver. I've only ridden in it about a dozen times since we got it. And every time I did, I found something else wrong with it!

If you have to go with one of the three listed minivans, go with the Toyota. I know I should have...
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Originally Posted by andyp262 View Post
anybody have any real world mpg numbers?

buying american is not something i would even remotely consider.







Nice thing to say on Veteran's Day!



As far as the mileage goes, our PIECE OF SHIT Odyssey gets around 16 to 18 in the city.

My wife doesn't trust it enough to take it out on the highway!!!
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As I've posted here before, our 2005 Honda Odyssey Touring is a PIECE OF SHIT!!!

(I used to say "POS", but I have graduated to spelling it out LOUDLY! )


Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've heard it all before... I must be the only owner of a PIECE OF SHIT Odyssey in the country!

Well, if you follow any of the Odyssey forums, then you'll know that I am not.

The good news is that the PIECE OF SHIT Odyssey is just about out of warranty, so we will be replacing it very soon! HURRAY!!!!!

Interesting, every car mag raves about the Odyssey, you are one of the few if not the only person on THT who has had a Odyssey and not been happy with it.
I am curious what other cars do you have and how do you rate them?
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I am curious what other cars do you have and how do you rate them?








You know, I am just a guy that wants to hop in, start it up and get to where I am going. That's it!

But even the Odyssey couldn't deliver on that request...

I've had more cars (vehicles) than boats! And I've had 19 boats so far!!!


I won't bore you with the long list and I am certainly no writer for Motor Trend (and I don't care to be), but I'll do my best...

I've had:

Three Excursions. No issues to mention. VERY happy buyer.
Four Windstar's. Wife's vehicle. I thought we'd "step up" with the Odyssey. Wrong...
1996 Bronco. I had so much fun with my 1984 Bronco, I thought I'd enjoy another one. I did.
1992 F-250 4X4 S/C diesel. BEST truck ever! It is still being used with almost 300K on it!
1990 T-Bird. My father in law still has it in his garage. Not one problem with it!
Three 4Runner's. '86 lost a tranny. '90 had a warped exhaust manifold.

And the list goes on and on well into the 70's...

I don't have to defend any of them. I have yet to see a new car service dept that wasn't busy for any brand of vehicle. Your experience may vary...

But my PERSONAL experience with the Odyssey resulted in me branding it a (you guessed it):

PIECE OF SHIT!!!

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