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Old 11-08-2010, 07:10 PM
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Default Air Tools - Angle Die Grinder

PLEASE READ: This is regarding an "angle DIE grinder" - NOT a normal "angle grinder"


Looking to buy a 1/4" angle die grinder air tool. I just want to grind a few rough edges or cut a few thin sheet metal from time to time. Compressor is a 26 gallon.

Purchase a Central Pneumatic ($16) from Harbor Freight and it simply sucked. Tried out a friend's Husky ($53) from Home Depot and it was adequate (I could live with this level of performance - however it would be nice to have a little more punch).

Wondering if a Chicago Pneumatic ($58) or an Ingersoll Rand ($55) would offer better performance over the Husky?


Next step would be the Heavy Duty Version. Chicago Pneumatic ($92) or Ingersoll Rand ($110) or Husky ($85). Not sure if I need this level of performance for my light usage.

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You need to get a bigger compressor or go with an electric.
Old 11-08-2010, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 805gregg View Post
You need to get a bigger compressor or go with an electric.
I have a HF 8 gallon in my small condo. It can't even loosen a lug nut!
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Well, before I spent 100$ on a pneumatic I would buy a dewalt angle grinder. Not sure if it will do what you want but for 80 bucks, mine has been bulletproof. Just my opinion.
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I am looking for a angle "DIE GRINDER" - Not an "ANGLE GRINDER" - two different tools.

Kinda like a dremel tool. See Link.
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...atalogId=10053


Do the make them in electric. For my light usage. If the performance is adequte. I would not mind going electric.
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Originally Posted by UaVaj View Post
I am looking for a angle "DIE GRINDER" - Not an "ANGLE GRINDER" - two different tools.

Kinda like a dremel tool. See Link.
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...atalogId=10053


Do the make them in electric. For my light usage. If the performance is adequte. I would not mind going electric.
I maintain more than half a dozen pneumatic angle die grinders and have had all the different brands, the cheap ones use more air and produce less power, the better ones have much nicer throttles and do more work with less air. The $110.00 IR is a very good tool, Snap-on's is no better ( but does have a plastic handle which is nicer to hold onto) and costs more. I've never been disappointed with anything Chicago pneumatics has put their name on and their 45° machine is really a nice problem solver.
For me, I really like a good throttle... electric tools with an on-off or verbal speed will never match the dexterity that you get with a pneumatic tool with a good throttle.
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Default I use one a couple times a day and the harbor freight are weak

Get a real compressor with more cfm and storage and even the harbor freight will have power. But it wont last. I have had real good success with the husky. Die grinding or burring dies is mostly a straight die grinder and I use the angle with a roloc quick change pads. Wow to they cut gelcoat and fiberglass down to size. Go husky with more Air compressor
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When it comes to air tools it really is "you get what you pay for".

Personally I would NOT be putting the brand name Husky in the same sentence as CP or IR unless I was saying the Husky tool line should not be compared to CP or IR.

I have a couple professional series CP pneumatic tools but primarily mine are all IR (pro series).....I can't see why you wouldn't be happy with either. But in say that, I would look to see which one of the two uses less air and I would base my buying decision on that......given that you've got such a small compressor.

Electric, nothing wrong with going that route. I've got both the 4 & 5" sizes, personally if I were to buy just one, I'd buy the 5". The tool really isn't that much bigger, but cutting wheel selection and options is much better.....outside the fact it has more power. I personally much prefer the Makita 10.5 amp GA5020 5" angle grinder over what Dewalt has.
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Central Pneumatic air tools from Harbor Freight are pure junk. End of story.

Not sure of the requirements for a grinder, but some air tools require a dual stage air compressor. Some air sanders come to mind.
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Ingersoll Rand is the Rolls Royce of air tools.. Many NASCAR teams use them.. Lots of Snap-On and MAC tools are made by IR.. Having said that, most airtools suffer from lack of volume of air, because most homeowners don't spend enough money to buy an adequate compressor.. Homeowners looking to run airtools should never buy a single stage, 110 volt compressor.. About the only thing these are good for are filling up tires, tubes, and trim guns.
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Originally Posted by twobyfour View Post
Ingersoll Rand is the Rolls Royce of air tools.. Many NASCAR teams use them.. Lots of Snap-On and MAC tools are made by IR.. Having said that, most airtools suffer from lack of volume of air, because most homeowners don't spend enough money to buy an adequate compressor.. Homeowners looking to run airtools should never buy a single stage, 110 volt compressor.. About the only thing these are good for are filling up tires, tubes, and trim guns.
I use a single stage 110 volt compressor to power my impact wrench. It works just fine. My impact wrench is a made in Japan Craftsman. Decent quality, perhaps not the best though. For me, it works just fine. However, with exact same compressor, a Central Pneumatic impact wrench can't remove / tighten a lug nut. When it comes to Central Pneumatic air tools, the problem is the tool itself.
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Size of compressor simply dictates how long (TIME) you can use an air tool at rated pressure. A larger compressor (more time) is nice however it will not help me. My needs are quick and short and once in a blue moon.

I want an air tool that offers good performance at rated pressure. My 26 gallon offers me about 30sec of usage above rated pressure (90psi). That is plenty.

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The Central Pneumatic from Harbor Freight which is rated for 90 psi. At 125 psi it was still weak and pathetic. This tool simply sucked. It was not due to a lack of pressure.

As for the Husky. It was adequate all the way down to rated pressure - 90psi. Even at below rated pressure - the Husly was better than the Central Pneumatic.

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I think I will go with the standard duty IR for $55. I don't think I need the pro version.

Thanks for all the pointers.
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UaVaj I sent you a pm
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CP875..... use it every day ...... Tuff of my tools this one has lasted a while. Using it right now.
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On the job today...Chicago pneumatics, IR, Snap-ons, National Detroit and a Dewald. Even working professionally a good quality pneumatic will last for a lot of years.
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On the job today...Chicago pneumatics, IR, Snap-ons, National Detroit and a Dewald. Even working professionally a good quality pneumatic will last for a lot of years.
So what did you use, 5200 to stick those tools to the swim platform for the picture?
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So what did you use, 5200 to stick those tools to the swim platform for the picture?
5200 Would be way too slow, and everybody knows that if you want something to stick you have to use epoxy...... actually, I found the tube of denture adhesive on board and I was tired of having my tools falling off ;?
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