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Recently I had a house party and my company card went missing. It miraculously showed up today so I called up the gas company to see if one of my "friends" was just messing with me or if they actually stole from me by using the card.

It turns out that my gas card was used by someone other than myself.

What I need to know is, is whether or not all credit cards for a company gasoline account have the same number or do they differ from one to another. I don't have a credit card and thus don't know anything about how they work, especially for company accounts.
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Originally Posted by Boatless33 View Post
Recently I had a house party and my company card went missing. It miraculously showed up today so I called up the gas company to see if one of my "friends" was just messing with me or if they actually stole from me by using the card.

It turns out that my gas card was used by someone other than myself.

What I need to know is, is whether or not all credit cards for a company gasoline account have the same number or do they differ from one to another. I don't have a credit card and thus don't know anything about how they work, especially for company accounts.
Clearly they all have different numbers or how would the card issures know someone other then you used the card...
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Clearly they all have different numbers or how would the card issures know someone other then you used the card...
Obviously they used his card at the pump so it had to be HIS number. The knew it was't him because he said the card was missing.

To the OP - company cards all have different numbers so the company can identify use by employee.

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Originally Posted by gort View Post
Clearly they all have different numbers or how would the card issures know someone other then you used the card...
The Wise has spoken
Old 10-26-2010, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by gort View Post
Clearly they all have different numbers or how would the card issures know someone other then you used the card...
What I feared. My hopeful logic was that since it was all billed to the same account, all cards would be the same. Guess thats not the case. This A-hole is denying everything. Worst part is, is that the gasoline company cannot tell me how much the charge was worth. I was hoping I could deal with it face to face but its looking like I have to go to the bossman
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Originally Posted by Boatless33 View Post
What I feared. My hopeful logic was that since it was all billed to the same account, all cards would be the same. Guess thats not the case. This A-hole is denying everything. Worst part is, is that the gasoline company cannot tell me how much the charge was worth. I was hoping I could deal with it face to face but its looking like I have to go to the bossman
You could try going to the gas station and see if they have security footage that could prove it wasn't you. Unless your "friend" filled up his boat, or some dual tanked truck or something, the charge is unlikely to be over $75. Not likely anyone is going to have much interest in a single unauthorized gas charge. You could also try disputing the charge with the gas company and make them prove it was you, also not very likely for a single charge. I would fill in the boss, pay the charge personally since if wasn't for company use and keep a closer eye on your wallet.

I am the boss and have a company gas account. This sort of thing happens much more often than you might think.

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most gas station's have camera's.if you want to know who it was,it woul'nt be to hard to find out
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Where I work the cards are assigned to the vehicle and the gas pump prompts you to put in the mileage and the driver number before it will approve it. That prevents fraud.
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Originally Posted by Boatless33 View Post
What I feared. My hopeful logic was that since it was all billed to the same account, all cards would be the same. Guess thats not the case. This A-hole is denying everything. Worst part is, is that the gasoline company cannot tell me how much the charge was worth. I was hoping I could deal with it face to face but its looking like I have to go to the bossman
How do you know this A-hole is the A-hole?

You need to find new "friends".
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My company cards all have the same account number, but different card numbers to differentiate the user. Afraid your card statement will in fact show you as the user for those receipts.
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How could he have used the card without the right PIN number? Do you have to enter a PIN number when you scan the card? I have made an error when entering my PIN number and the card is not accepted. Even if I have to take the card into the station because the pump card reader isn't working, I still have to enter the PIN number. Do you have the PIN number written on the card?

How did the credit card company know the card wasn't used by you? Was the wrong PIN number entered? If so, how could the charge have gone through? How can they NOT give you the amounts of the charges?

I'm sure this isn't the case but one of my co-workers had all kinds of charges on his company gas card, food, beer, cigarettes, etc. He figured out that if you went into the station after pumping your fuel and have the station employee run the card he could buy anything he wanted when the station employee put in the code for fuel.

It took the company about a month to catch up to his antics and he claimed his gas card was stolen but he was afraid to say anything. The problem was that the card was being used regularly through the whole month and each time the PIN number had to be entered. The company compared the signatures on the receipts and seen they were the same from month to month. He was promptly fired.

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How could he have used the card without the right PIN number? Do you have to enter a PIN number when you scan the card? I have made an error when entering my PIN number and the card is not accepted. Even if I have to take the card into the station because the pump card reader isn't working, I still have to enter the PIN number. Do you have the PIN number written on the card?

How did the credit card company know the card wasn't used by you? Was the wrong PIN number entered? If so, how could the charge have gone through? How can they NOT give you the amounts of the charges?

I'm sure this isn't the case but one of my co-workers had all kinds of charges on his company gas card, food, beer, cigarettes, etc. He figured out that if you went into the station after pumping your fuel and have the station employee run the card he could buy anything he wanted when the station employee put in the code for fuel.

It took the company about a month to catch up to his antics and he claimed his gas card was stolen but he was afraid to say anything. The problem was that the card was being used regularly through the whole month and each time the PIN number had to be entered. The company compared the signatures on the receipts and seen they were the same from month to month. He was promptly fired.

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Only debit cards require PIN numbers

If you use a credit card at the pump, all you have to do is swipe it. If you pay inside, you have to swipe it than sign a name
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How do you know this A-hole is the A-hole?

You need to find new "friends".
I suspected him because he's the new guy, or should I saw was, the new guy in the group. If I can't trust my other friends who were there that night, I can't trust anyone. After confronting THE a-hole who stole it, and after the series of denials, he claimed that he lent another (underage) kid his wallet to buy beer so that the underage kid could use his ID. The underage kid then went and filled up his car using my gas card which is where the charge came from. Sounds fishy to me but regardless, he did begrudgingly gave me some cash and needless to say, I won't be talking to him anymore. I just hope that it was only 1 person who used it. As far as I know, 100 people may have.
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Only in america it's 2010, we don't know these things?
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How could he have used the card without the right PIN number? Do you have to enter a PIN number when you scan the card? I have made an error when entering my PIN number and the card is not accepted. Even if I have to take the card into the station because the pump card reader isn't working, I still have to enter the PIN number. Do you have the PIN number written on the card?

How did the credit card company know the card wasn't used by you? Was the wrong PIN number entered? If so, how could the charge have gone through? How can they NOT give you the amounts of the charges?

I'm sure this isn't the case but one of my co-workers had all kinds of charges on his company gas card, food, beer, cigarettes, etc. He figured out that if you went into the station after pumping your fuel and have the station employee run the card he could buy anything he wanted when the station employee put in the code for fuel.

It took the company about a month to catch up to his antics and he claimed his gas card was stolen but he was afraid to say anything. The problem was that the card was being used regularly through the whole month and each time the PIN number had to be entered. The company compared the signatures on the receipts and seen they were the same from month to month. He was promptly fired.

Russ
No PIN number for Sunoco cards. Just swipe and begin fueling. I don't understand why this is the case. Exxon requires a pin to be put in.

My boss is my father and this job is not for my career. I can't wait to see how the next family dinner turns out

Definitely learned my lesson however... Keeping my wallet and other valuables in safe place next time I have people over
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I use my company issued gas credit card a couple of times a week I think I would know if I have to enter a PIN number. Perhaps the OP doesn't have to use a PIN number but my company gas card has a PIN number. My personal BP card doesn't have a PIN number but I would think any company issued credit card would require a PIN number for the exact reason the OP stated in his post.

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Small company?

When I used to work, company gas card required use of driver I.D. number and mileage.

That sucks when you can't trust your "friends".
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Let's see.

Stole the credit card, then uses supplying alchohol for to minor as an excuse for it's missuse. I don't care how much money he paid back. scum bag!

I'd call the police and file a report. Then I would call my boss and tell him up front exactly what happened. Do not keep any of this imformation from the boss. Father, career job or not, he needs to know what's going on. The card was/is your responsibility, fess up.
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Let's see.

Stole the credit card, then uses supplying alchohol for to minor as an excuse for it's missuse. I don't care how much money he paid back. scum bag!

I'd call the police and file a report. Then I would call my boss and tell him up front exactly what happened. Do not keep any of this imformation from the boss. Father, career job or not, he needs to know what's going on. The card was/is your responsibility, fess up.

Thats the way I would handle it family or not.
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the good life, yes its a small company. Counting myself, only 10 employees. We have around 12 or so trucks in the fleet.

twentynine, I would file a police report but I feel like there is not enough evidence or proof to do anything. Even if I were able to view surveillance camera footage, I know neither what specific station was used nor what car(s) were involved. I know what he drives but it his friend, or friends were the ones to fill up on the company's expense, I have no idea. Regardless, he really is a scum bag. He'll get caught and wind up behind bars one of these days.

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