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Old 10-23-2010, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by OldPete View Post
As a result, an area approximately 6'x16' has been washed away. The land was covered with a weed barrier, decorative stone, and a deck.

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As in permanently? Yeah, I'd be pissed!
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Old 10-23-2010, 08:26 AM
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Sorry to hear of the damage

Pictures are worth a thousands words - hard to comment without it

w/o details the INSURANCE seems the best advice - sounds like you have covered all other bases....!
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Old 10-23-2010, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by NJFISH View Post
Most of the "big" bulkhead guys on Barn Bay are multi-generations old and have been doing it for a long long time and know what they are doing. I have seen the rogue guys do sloppy jobs though.

Anyway...we are having ours done this fall, care to name them?
Big name guy. The guy was a total "tough guy" on the phone. Lot's of "Do you know who I am" bullcrap. And "Do you know my father"...

Real "NJ Tough Guy".

LOL. I didn't need to say, "Do you know who *I* am"?
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Old 10-23-2010, 08:33 AM
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Im beginning to feel sorry for the contractor. Pete is going to make his life hell until his damage is repaired
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Old 10-23-2010, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by OldPete View Post
Big name guy. The guy was a total "tough guy" on the phone. Lot's of "Do you know who I am" bullcrap. And "Do you know my father"...

Real "NJ Tough Guy".

LOL. I didn't need to say, "Do you know who *I* am"?

Apparently, in NJ, that's called "cooperation".
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Old 10-23-2010, 09:01 AM
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HEY PETE, after you get this straightened out, come on down and we'll do some real estate shopping. If this doesn't convince you and the powers to be to get out of NJ, nothing will.

Go get em!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 10-23-2010, 09:06 AM
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Im beginning to feel sorry for the contractor. Pete is going to make his life hell until his damage is repaired
I probably come across as a dick on here sometimes... but, honestly, All I did was ask the guy how he was going to fix it and to put it in writing along with his insurance company.

He refused to do either and told me *I* was making *HIS* life difficult because I called the police. I told him, nicely, that if he didn't provide with the information about the repair and the insurance that I would be forced to call the NJ DEP (Dept of Environmental Protection) -- that's when he started to go crazy on me -- finishing with the "go f-yourself, etc.).

I now have video of him installing the old pilings that were on the front of the OLD bulkhead as dead-men pilings (what the tie-rod gets secured to behind the bulkhead). That video, along with all the other pictures and other video will likely end up a site: xxxxxxxxxxMarineSucks.com or something similar. Anyone who googles will get to watch it all. It will remain in place until all things are corrected like they were or better.

People need to be accountable for what they do. Telling me to go f-myself and everything else, isn't going to make me your friend.
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Old 10-23-2010, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by davedowneast View Post
HEY PETE, after you get this straightened out, come on down and we'll do some real estate shopping. If this doesn't convince you and the powers to be to get out of NJ, nothing will.

Go get em!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks Dave!!! Wife is ready to move, except she wants Florida.
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What has the neighboor had to say about all this?

I'd set up the video camera on a tripod and film them all day - that'd drive me nutz! Good luck, too bad he didn't take the high road.
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While it's good to want to (and to see you do it), wade into the fray; why on earth would you not let your insurance company handle this?


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Originally Posted by Snapper Head View Post
While it's good to want to (and to see you do it), wade into the fray; why on earth would you not let your insurance company handle this?


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I have a call into my insurance company... but since I have no way of knowing how it will be handled -- would you agree that having a full and documented history of the events to be a good thing?

In the end, I'm CERTAIN it will be handled and fixed properly. The problem will be if they do it by their own will or by being compelled to do so?

The fact that he wouldn't give me his insurance company is a major red flag. He's a huge company, and I know he has it -- the trouble is, he knows his premium is going to go even higher after this.

You had to hear the guy at the DEP ask how the contractor plans to fill the hole. I said I didn't know, but the contractor's worker made it sound like they were going to scoop the soil back up from the bay. the DEP guy laughed and said, "that wouldn't be a good idea for them to do".
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I don't disagree with the documentation; but I don't think it is worth the blood pressure to get directly involved with the Contractor.

Your insurance company will expect that you made emergency mitigation efforts, and will compensate you for it. Let them cut you a check so you can get a real contractor to fix things up, and they will deal with the a-hole company for recovery.

Getting the Environauts on him was a good idea, but it will make his life real hell and he will be much less inclined to do the repair properly. And, if he actually, really, somebody, then he might have some stroke with inspectors, etc.


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Originally Posted by OldPete View Post
I have a call into my insurance company... but since I have no way of knowing how it will be handled -- would you agree that having a full and documented history of the events to be a good thing?

In the end, I'm CERTAIN it will be handled and fixed properly. The problem will be if they do it by their own will or by being compelled to do so?

The fact that he wouldn't give me his insurance company is a major red flag. He's a huge company, and I know he has it -- the trouble is, he knows his premium is going to go even higher after this.

You had to hear the guy at the DEP ask how the contractor plans to fill the hole. I said I didn't know, but the contractor's worker made it sound like they were going to scoop the soil back up from the bay. the DEP guy laughed and said, "that wouldn't be a good idea for them to do".
Wouldn't the building permit for your neighbor's project have the contractor's Insurance Certificates (WC, GL, etc.) attached? Aren't those things public records? If so, the certificate will have his GL carrier and the policy number.

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Old 10-23-2010, 11:26 AM
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In N.J. there should be at least 20 regulatory, both State & Local agencies that you can sic on this contractor, well maybe 15 since Christie got in office.
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Old 10-23-2010, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Snapper Head View Post
I don't disagree with the documentation; but I don't think it is worth the blood pressure to get directly involved with the Contractor.

Your insurance company will expect that you made emergency mitigation efforts, and will compensate you for it. Let them cut you a check so you can get a real contractor to fix things up, and they will deal with the a-hole company for recovery.

Getting the Environauts on him was a good idea, but it will make his life real hell and he will be much less inclined to do the repair properly. And, if he actually, really, somebody, then he might have some stroke with inspectors, etc.


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Have to agree with Al.

If the contractor told you to go F-yourself, I would be done with them and let your insurance company handle it. In fact, I definitely wouldn't want them on my property fixing/repairing anything. Tell them to stay off the property. Let them finish the other job, then via your own insurance co, call in your own contractor and get it fixed to your satisfaction. Let your insurance co chase them .

The other thing I thought of is, you mention NJ and "who" this guy is. I wonder if you might have a problem even finding another contractor to repair what "they" screwed up.
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Sounds like Pete is getting sized up for a pair of Cement Shoes!!!!!!!!
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Often (but not always) the courts here will allow the defendant to remedy the situation. If they fail to do it satisfactorily or are unable/unwilling, then you can get other estimates.

Since they've done much larger work the scope of the repairs could easily be argued achievable by the company.

Right now, getting it repair to properly will be the most important thing.
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Originally Posted by 1NO REGRETS View Post
Sounds like Pete is getting sized up for a pair of Cement Shoes!!!!!!!!
The difference between a person that is "somebody" and a person that wants to act like they are somebody is that one party is "acting" and one party "is".

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pete, regardless of how you may, or may not come off on an internet forum, you had damage done because of this clown's company. You "making his life hard" seemed like the only way to get this attention, and get him to clean up the mess. the "go f yourself" speaks volumes about this idiot. have you considered getting the press involved? just saying. negative p.r. can be a really bad thing, and this chucklehead sounds like he earned it. as of now, neither he, nor his company should be allowed on your property. your insurance company will gleefully go after him in court. let them handle it. it's why you pay them. his reluctance to show insurance info is a trifle dubious, shall we say?
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Old 10-23-2010, 01:29 PM
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Homeowners insurance doesn't cover dirt. There may be some coverage for the collapse of the deck.
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