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Old 10-19-2010, 12:56 PM
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Default Does ANYONE do their job anymore?!?!?!

Seriously.

Today:

I've had FIVE distinct cases where other people didn't do what they said they would do, or made excuses.

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Mfg. Company
Bank
Insurance Company

I mean really? I can't stand dooms day types, but really?!?!?! What is so hard about doing your damn job?!?!?!?!!?

In my line of work I have to do exactly what they want by a very specific date or the event is over and my crap doesn't get used, and hence I have to give them their money back. Needless to say, I do what I say I'm going to do.

What the hell?

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Do what I do - shoot 'em.


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Yes - there still are a few out there, but they are few and far between. In the manufacturing industry, especially where hand labor is required, that is the main reason to go overseas - not to save money, but to get the job done when it has to be done. I am pretty level headed, but I have acted like a fool on more than one occassion when my US vendors keep coming up with some lame ass excuse why my parts are not ready. My customer does not care what the reason. I have said some things to some of my vendors, under duress, that I am still sorry for today.

Just got my office refloored, and the flooring folks worked like they were getting paid by the pound for the flooring they put down - they are one of the few good ones. Then, the guys that came in and put the baseboards on - one 14 X 16 office in three hours - are you kidding me!
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Please I had a 5 round back-and-forth with the insurance guy over something -- until he FINALLY realized he was wrong. I mean, come on -- what does the poor slob that doesn't check everything go through? I guess ignorance IS bliss?

I get assured 10 times that something is going to be perforated every 12"... the rolls come in and -- nope, no perforations. The driver looks at me like I'm retarded.

The pathetic part? I don't even give a crap anymore.
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Do what I do.....

Just learn their job and do it your self. Oh wait..... That's you.



Sorry. I couldn't resist.


What exactly do ya do Pete?

Personally I'm so sick of banks lately I can't even explain. The only time they want to talk to you is when you have your accounts transferred to a different one. They just don't grasp the concept of customer service and doing things in a timely fashion.
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Originally Posted by cudacat View Post
Yes - there still are a few out there, but they are few and far between. In the manufacturing industry, especially where hand labor is required, that is the main reason to go overseas - not to save money, but to get the job done when it has to be done. I am pretty level headed, but I have acted like a fool on more than one occassion when my US vendors keep coming up with some lame ass excuse why my parts are not ready. My customer does not care what the reason. I have said some things to some of my vendors, under duress, that I am still sorry for today.

Just got my office refloored, and the flooring folks worked like they were getting paid by the pound for the flooring they put down - they are one of the few good ones. Then, the guys that came in and put the baseboards on - one 14 X 16 office in three hours - are you kidding me!
Funny... I am building a 1b chem plant as we speak. To date, I've written 1000++ hours of change notices to rebuild equipment that was fabricated overseas. The stuff was delivered on time, but was complete crap.

As for people not doing their jobs-
People are now disposable assets, and they well know it. Most of the workers out there are working themselves out of a job, have been laid off multiple times, will be laid off soon, have been subject to pay cuts & reduction in hours... they just flat out don't care.

The engineering industry is one of the worst. Highly educated and or skilled people that get dumped as soon as the job is over. Buh-by, don't let the door hit you in the ass, thanks for all that extra effort & dilligence, but you gotta go.

People don't care because they know their employers don't.
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Do what I do.....

Just learn their job and do it your self. Oh wait..... That's you.



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What exactly do ya do Pete?

Personally I'm so sick of banks lately I can't even explain. The only time they want to talk to you is when you have your accounts transferred to a different one. They just don't grasp the concept of customer service and doing things in a timely fashion.
Hahaha. Nah, no offense taken. I had to learn HVAC, because otherwise that would be yet another thing where I pay good money and get crap service.

I manufacture gift and home decor products.
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Funny... I am building a 1b chem plant as we speak. To date, I've written 1000++ hours of change notices to rebuild equipment that was fabricated overseas. The stuff was delivered on time, but was complete crap.
That sounds like an interesting project you have going there. A few years ago, we built big 22' cyclones for an ethanol plant out in Ok. 22' long 3/8" plate stainless 12' round. Cool project. Working on a battery plant right now.
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Do what I do.....

Just learn their job and do it your self. Oh wait..... That's you.


I don't care who ya are, that's funny right there

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I agree, 100%. And I will go further to say it is a product of our society of parents trying to save their children from the misery of failure by teaching that no matter what you do, you are worthy. Well, in the real world, this is not true.

From the age of 4 kids are taught that there are no losers. No keeping score in T-Ball, everyone gets a reward for playing. Nonsense. This is what we get. A bunch of whiny adults that think they can do whatever they want without consequences.

You want someone to blame? Blame American Parents for making a SOFT workforce and NON-Productive, Entitlement Babies.
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Out of what?
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Originally Posted by OldPete View Post
Seriously.

Today:

I've had FIVE distinct cases where other people didn't do what they said they would do, or made excuses.

Teacher
Tradesman
Mfg. Company
Bank
Insurance Company

I mean really? I can't stand dooms day types, but really?!?!?! What the fuch is so hard about doing your friggin job?!?!?!?!!?

In my line of work I have to do exactly what they want by a very specific date or the event is over and my crap doesn't get used, and hence I have to give them their money back. Needless to say, I do what I say I'm going to do.

What the hell?
To answer your question........... NO they don't !!! I deal with people who don't do their jobs all the time. It's very frustrating, really. Mostly it's suppliers, vendors and manufacturers. It's whats fundementally wrong with our counrty. People just don't give fuch anymore. Very sad.
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Out of what?


Yer a bad man


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In my line of work I have to do exactly what they want by a very specific date or the event is over and my crap doesn't get used, and hence I have to give them their money back. Needless to say, I do what I say I'm going to do.

What the hell?

Interesting times right now. I have been getting jobs from customers I have never heard from in the past. All word of mouth. It is nowhere near what it was even a year ago but I'll take it.

Here is the kicker, these people are not even balking at the price. 6 months ago it was either be the lowest price or forget about getting the job.

My take on this is that people are finally feeling the effects of the lowest price and are willing to pay a bit more to get it done right.

I hope I am right.
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Sorry to hear you had a bad day at the expense of others but seriously, how smooth is your pen?
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I agree, 100%. And I will go further to say it is a product of our society of parents trying to save their children from the misery of failure by teaching that no matter what you do, you are worthy. Well, in the real world, this is not true.

From the age of 4 kids are taught that there are no losers. No keeping score in T-Ball, everyone gets a reward for playing. Nonsense. This is what we get. A bunch of whiny adults that think they can do whatever they want without consequences.

You want someone to blame? Blame American Parents for making a SOFT workforce and NON-Productive, Entitlement Babies.

X2, failure is a fact of life. The most sucessfull businessman and people in the world encountered failure after failure until they finally suceeded. What you think you learn from your sucess pales in comparison to what you can learn from your failures.
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Interesting times right now. I have been getting jobs from customers I have never heard from in the past. All word of mouth. It is nowhere near what it was even a year ago but I'll take it.

Here is the kicker, these people are not even balking at the price. 6 months ago it was either be the lowest price or forget about getting the job.

My take on this is that people are finally feeling the effects of the lowest price and are willing to pay a bit more to get it done right.

I hope I am right.
I wish that were the case for me. There is no relationship between the price the service. The only thing you get when you pay more is less money at the end of the day -- same garbage service, you're just more upset about because you got robbed.
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The pathetic part? I don't even give a crap anymore.
For the sake of us that still give a crap, please don't let it come to that.

I do my job, and my bosses job, and a couple of other people's jobs too. That's why I work 12 hr days, get called in the middle of the night, work during my vacation, etc. But at the end of the day, I take pride in knowing I gave 110% and no one can say I didn't do above and beyond. Along the way, I have gained a reputation as being an extremely hard worker and someone of high integrity.

But you know what they say, "Nice guys finish last". Oh well, at least I'll finish last with a clear conscious.
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Ha!

It's 8:20 AM. And I already got TWO new examples, and this time they relate to fishing.

1) The guy I ordered my umbrella rigs from... "they already shipped" (ordered on 10/5). Email him last night, hear back today, guess what? No they didn't ship yet.
2) The people I ordered my spoons from, I asked them to let me know if a certain spoon comes back in stock. The spoon is back in stock -- but nobody told me. Had they told me sooner I could have added it to my order.

I know, little silly things... but still.

And Brad, no I won't do stoop to their level, although I often wish I could. I took a call this morning from a very nice lady in Puerto Rico that needed something in a rush and was having a hard time finding it. It was a tiny order, yet I gave her 100% attention and made sure everything went smoothly. I think I made her day. :

P.S. The two bunker spoons and umbrella rigs both made in the USA, and NOT the cheapest out there... see what I mean? NO RELATIONSHIP!! (To add to that... the item the lady called me for, I *AM* the cheapest mfg. of that item! -- yet gave the best service!) ONCE AGAIN... NO RELATIONSHIP!!!
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Last year my company bought a million dollar digital press (American Company). The deal included 5 days of training at the builder. Although I don't run the press in my position I need to know how it works. So myself along with two pressman fly up to the company late on a Sunday afternoon. Training was to begin Monday morning at 8:00am. This was scheduled 3 months ahead of time since they were footing the bill for air, rental car and hotel. We arrived at 7:45 ready to go. As we were checking in at the front desk they asked me why we were there. I said we were there for 5 days of training, the receptionist looked puzzled as I began to get a sick feeling in my stomach. Turns out they had "Forgot" we were coming. WTF? I went ape shit, we just purchased a million dollar press and you forgot we were coming up for training? LOL

They quickly gave us a 2 hour tour of the company while they tried to find some techs to train us. Our week of training was nothing less than one big cluster phuck. We left on Wednesday. They ended up sending a tech down to my company the following week.

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