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Old 08-16-2010, 07:50 PM
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Default Ribbon cutting today, My rant!

They had the Ribbon Cutting on the almost 9 million dollar building I was the site superintendent on for the past year.

Well when they had the "Speech" to thank all involved for "Their hard work to pull this building together" with endless rain, record snow falls, multiple delays, some crappy subcontractors, everyone was thanked except the actual people that put the tools to the materials that built the building. You know, the little guy, Joe six-pack, the ones whose heads would have rolled if it wasn't done on time....Mine!
Not that every company should have been mentioned, but the construction companies as a whole were not mentioned either, nothing.

No one had more hours invested in this building than me, rightfully so due to I was running the project. If 2,000 hours is a typical number of annual hours for anyone, I have somewhere around 3,000 hours in it. Multiple 6 day weeks (some 7 days) at 10- 12- 14+ hour days. I even moved to be closer because it was too far to commute after the long hours put in.

The people that were thanked (except for two people) never spent more than 2-3 hours on the building pushing paper.

The company I work for was never even mentioned, not even once, let alone me, another Superintendent that helped me or my Project Manager who busted her ass on this job.
My president, Vice President, Senior Estimator, and PM were there and I heard not one word to any of us from the school of a simple, "Thank you, you did a nice job".....Nothing!
As a matter of fact, I can not recall ever hearing throughout the project that something looked nice or a moment of appreciation. EVER!
If something went wrong the emails flew everywhere.

I was going to post some photos but I do not want to get my company in trouble. Do not link any old threads to this thread.

I think it goes to show how out of touch some "Educated" people are with the blue collar worker. They obviously think we are so insignificant that ignoring us is acceptable. Not to mention my company Owner, the VP, the Senior Estimator, my PM that is extremely smart, all college educated of course.

I kept this very generic as not to associate anyone specifically.
Just had to get it off my chest.
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That's what happens when you work for the ME ME generation , you know, the ones that need a CHANGE.

Same crap happens everywhere , they had a meeting to form a comity to have a meeting to pat each other on the back and tell each other what hero's they are in each others minds .
If you are not in their CLICK , you aint SH!T.

Now tape a hair , shut your trap and get back to work cuz were out of hours and we aint even unloaded the truck yet , the shop ate all our time up and I don't know how we can stay in bussiness ........................and it goes on and on .

That last bit is the crap I would hear at work back in the '90's
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I bet the ones thanking each other on the good work "they" did are the same ones with the gold shovels at the "ground breaking".
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You aint the only one.

Engineers get the shaft from both ends.

They design the product with the best interest of keeping the public safe, limiting future liability of the owner, and pleasing regulatory bodies.

What do they get in return?

They take shit from the bean counters because it will cost too much, and shit from the yard because "that will be too hard". Regardless of the time they have spent making sure the design was buildable, cost effective, and safe.

Left with this, they have to duke it out with the regulatory bodies and try to argue thier way out of a compromised design because some prick on either the white or blue collar side bitched and moaned enough.

When it's all said and done, the executives and floor sweepers get a standing ovation at the christening.

And when that product fails after 30 years and exceeding it's life expectancy by 10 years, who do you think takes the fall?
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I think it goes to show how out of touch some "Educated" people are with the blue collar worker. They obviously think we are so insignificant that ignoring us is acceptable. Not to mention my company Owner, the VP, the Senior Estimator, my PM that is extremely smart, all college educated of course.


Just had to get it off my chest.
Being on the front line while the quarterback gets the glory is always going to happen.
Don't let it upset you. Use to pulling 100+ hour work weeks with not even so much as a thank you but every once in a while its fun to step aside and let the quarterback get creamed. LOL.......... Just don't know what happened.
Can't say it works for everyone but have learned to enjoy being the one no one knows . Gives you a lot more freedom in the business world 240 and when things do go south, they don't look at you till the last minuet. Gives you time to have plan A through at least M figured out. If you were the quarterback, all eyes would be on you.
Letting others enjoy the social glory while your sitting back at home, enjoying your own life ain't really so bad. Takes a lot of folks a lifetime to realize up town ain't all its cracked up to be.
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I can't remember the architectural firm being mentioned either.
All the county delegates that "don't know diddly" were thanked though.
Fat cats patting each other on the back for doing next to nothing.

The speech was about "How important education is to our youth and this building will help them reach their goals in life" or some twist to that effect.
There is the concept, getting the money from DGS and donations, setting things up prior to the actual construction. I do not consider that "Hard work".

I know I am looking only at the construction side of it. I spent 25 years working for a subcontractor before spending the last almost 11 years in this position. The guys that held the tools, froze their fingers in the winter and sweated their a$$ off in the intense heat are the ones that really "Put in the hard work" that turned out this product. I always be sure to thank the guys in the field for doing a good job on a daily basis when it is deserved.

When I took this position I swore I would never treat others like I was treated when I was in their boots.

Thanks to all the workers that have build something to allow the fat cats to be comfortable inside a building.
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Happens all over - even in white collar jobs. for example IT where the directors and up take the credit while the programmer and project managers get a paycheck and not much else. Of course, as often happens, when the project is late or does not deliver everything it is the opposite!

On the flip side, as I have moved up the ladder I have learned that it is better when in a situation like that to speak about the project at a high level and not mention anyone at all. Even if you try and mention everyone with good intention you are sure to leave someone out - an admin, a contactor, and torque someone off. So better to give a general thanks and move on to the next project.
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There is something much stronger and lasting than the fake ribbon cutting crap...

It's in the eyes and stride of the good people who know what it takes to live a real life.

Good job man.
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Your paychecks have been correct right..?Theirs your thanks.
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Welcome to "Corporate America" where you don't get any recognition til they find something to blame on you. I work for a power company in Fl and they have enough new rules and signed "records of training" that any incident or mistake can surely be put back on the employee if they so choose. The fat cats are just gonna ride us until we've had enough and then get a new one. I know I've almost had it. I've got two young kids at home and working 2700-3000 hrs a year in my 21st year is getting old. I love my job and training the young guys to do it, there just needs to be a limit and large corporations don't see it. They only see themselves and the shareholders, who are one in the same I think.
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I'm gonna go rent bicycles down at the beach.

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This isn't anything new. I usually can count on one hand the number of times somebody takes time out of their day in a year to call or write a thank you email after their project is complete. I am always apreciative of those that give me a thank you. They usually get a little help on their next project that we work together on. The ones that don't and continue to give us work are still good in my book. The people that think paying you and paying on time are your thank you Suck.

I'm not sure if I am misunderstanding but the OP kind of sounded like the guys in the offices don't work hard. There is not one of my field guys that could handle everything I have to do in a week and the stress levels involved. Don't forget they risked their money to build a company. They bid the jobs, put tools in your hands and food on your table. They should remember though, without good field people they will not last in the construction world. I thank my people regularly.
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Your paychecks have been correct right..?Theirs your thanks.

There you go.
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They thanked you with a pay check. What else do you need?
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we cut the ribbon this morning on a new credit union branch that we built
the CEO thanked our site superintendant first, then myself, then the deisgn team and the real estate developer

at the end she thanked the site superintendant again...

different owners do different things...
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They thanked you with a pay check. What else do you need?
My pride in my work and my position mean more to me than just a paycheck. Maybe that is why I took it as a slap in the face, not just to me but to all that actually spent countless hours to turn out a nice product.

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This isn't anything new. I usually can count on one hand the number of times somebody takes time out of their day in a year to call or write a thank you email after their project is complete. I am always apreciative of those that give me a thank you. They usually get a little help on their next project that we work together on. The ones that don't and continue to give us work are still good in my book. The people that think paying you and paying on time are your thank you Suck.

I'm not sure if I am misunderstanding but the OP kind of sounded like the guys in the offices don't work hard. There is not one of my field guys that could handle everything I have to do in a week and the stress levels involved. Don't forget they risked their money to build a company. They bid the jobs, put tools in your hands and food on your table. They should remember though, without good field people they will not last in the construction world. I thank my people regularly.
I started as a laborer in 1975. I went from the field to the office over 25 years. I have seen both sides of what it takes to build something. All involved from the estimating to the final cleaning company have a part and work hard.
Yes, if I stated anything that made you think office construction personnel do not have stress and work hard, that was not intended.


As I think about it, maybe it is not the appreciation or the thank you that disappointed all of us, it's the acceptance of the "take for granted society" we live in. I guess I was wrong for thinking I could expect something more from the higher ups.

I'm over it.
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My pride in my work and my position mean more to me than just a paycheck. Maybe that is why I took it as a slap in the face, not just to me but to all that actually spent countless hours to turn out a nice product.


I'm over it.
Quit whining. Are you really this fragile?

How many people do you think receive thanks for every job they do every day?

If your product were viewed by your client as being truly special, then your client would have said so. Maybe your work needs some work.


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Originally Posted by Snapper Head View Post
Quit whining. Are you really this fragile?

How many people do you think receive thanks for every job they do every day?

If your product were viewed by your client as being truly special, then your client would have said so. Maybe your work needs some work.


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It's not every day that something like this is done on campus. Maybe once every 10 years, if that.
Again, it's not about me, I certainly did not build this by myself. I just happen to be the one voicing the opinion held by many. It's not about thanks, it's about society.
I knew my point would be twisted
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Not twisted. We understand your point just accepted reality within ourselves a long time ago. If its done right, you won't hear from them. IF its done wrong, its your butt.. Such is life..........
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A parent's lament..

"Nobody notices what I do, until I don't do it."
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