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Old 06-04-2010, 01:41 PM
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Old 06-04-2010, 02:05 PM
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Actually in Florida, you are trained to visually estimate the speed of a vehicle then use radar to verify your visual estimate. You have to be within a couple MPH on both the estimate and the radar speed for the ticket.
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Went through a French speed trap several years ago..two cops from a tiny French town standing on the side of the road staring at cars driving by.........Same thing.
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Isn't Forrest Gump a LEO in Ohio???
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to you LEOs out there, if a car's on a highway with other vehicles around, then speeding would be pretty simple to spot.
My question is how an OH cop can look at a vehicle that's travelling alone through farmland and make such a judgement. Doesn't the color, brand and size of the vehicle distort just as much as angle of trajectory, etc?
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Boy............................................... ....talk about being stripped of rights; that would make 100% of ALL speeding tickets 1000% impossible to get off of....even if you were doing 10 under the speed limit.

Waaay to much power put in the hands of LEO....that ruling would give the cops a blanket to pull anyone over for no reason at all! Yesterday probable cause was needed, today I think or I want to is enough. So what's next? LEO will be judge, jury and executioner?
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Actually in Florida, you are trained to visually estimate the speed of a vehicle then use radar to verify your visual estimate. You have to be within a couple MPH on both the estimate and the radar speed for the ticket.
Calif cops also. Calif didn't run radar till about 12 years ago. At least HP didn't. Back in the 70's and 80's we use to have 3 to 4 different states driving liciens. Making sure it did not come back on your home state.

Little truck stop in Vado NM use to keep your mail for you and let you use their address. 5 dollars for your mail. Thats how they made money on the deal.
Got stopped in Calif and gave the office NM driving license
He started laughing and said Animal House.
I ask why, he replied cause you guys have to be party animals that live there. I bet I"ve wrote over 400 tickets to PO box 158 Vado NM.
Handed me the ticket , smiled and said , Just make sure it gets paid.
He know the deal but back then they didn't care. Just wanted the money.
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Cracker. are you saying that with out probable cause you can't shoot the radar gun at my car?
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Cracker. are you saying that with out probable cause you can't shoot the radar gun at my car?
er, why would he want to if there wasn't probable cause (like your F350 towing that 32' Contender passing cars left and right in the rain at 3AM on I-95)?
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Complete BS in that article. Cops around here started running heavy speed traps since the county has been loosing tax revenue. Writing for 5 or 6 over. They run these speed traps while I almost get killed daily by people running red lights 5 or 6 seconds after the light turns red. But that would be too strenuous to watch an intersection and write tickets so instead they sit behind billboard on an open stretch of road and pop people for 6 over. I often watch cops basically turn their heads at blatant, potentially deadly traffic infractions other than speeding probably because it's shift change and their trying to get home.

Tax collection is all it is. If they really were about safety they'd actually do something difficult and work an intersection.
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er, why would he want to if there wasn't probable cause (like your F350 towing that 32' Contender passing cars left and right in the rain at 3AM on I-95)?

Where I drive it's not strange to see cruisers parked by the side of the road with the radar gun on every car passing by. In fact they are shooting it at the only sign marked "30mph" in a curve, on a highway with a regular speed limit of 50mph...no prior "slow down" or "reduce speed ahead" 50 to 30 in a curve and officers shooting the radar at the sign. Go figure...and no...no trailers allowed on the PIP so I wasn't towing my 32 and weaving all over the road...that was me on the I 95 after a few spliffs and a few beers. Cause you know us THTer's...just a buncha rebels.
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I ask why, he replied cause you guys have to be party animals that live there. I bet I"ve wrote over 400 tickets to PO box 158 Vado NM.
Now that's funny as hell.
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Originally Posted by Cracker View Post
Actually in Florida, you are trained to visually estimate the speed of a vehicle then use radar to verify your visual estimate. You have to be within a couple MPH on both the estimate and the radar speed for the ticket.




Yup, actual speed is not material, lots of folks say 'I wasn't going 89 in a 70, but admit to doing 73. =GUILTY. Leo's estimate is all it takes.
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Actually in Florida, you are trained to visually estimate the speed of a vehicle
Boy you guys must be pretty special people because there isn't a single player in ANY baseball league around the world that can judge the speed of an on coming object!!!!
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1. If I'm in a line of traffic on the Turnpike, and the line is all doing, say, 70, and some guy comes whizzing past us all in a blur, sure, he should get a ticket on the cop's observation, although that won't happen in NJ where positive evidence is required.

2. Ya gotta figure that a large percentage (most) of ticket recipients will simply mail in the fine and not show up in court -- especially if they're from out of state. That's a high profit item, even if the courts throw out the cases that actually do show up.
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Yep, I live in Ohio, and this is gonna suck. For one thing, I've traveled all over the country, and nowhere, and I mean nowhere, is there any number of traffic cops that Ohio has. I could leave my house, and drive west 3 hours across the Indiana state border, and see as many as 15 State Highway Patrol officers, actually on patrol, with half of the cruisers already having people pulled over. Leave Ohio and be gone for 60 days, and not see 15 leo's patrolling traffic. Come back to good ole Ohio, and see 10 more on the way home. This is really gonna suck..............
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