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wingless 05-27-2010 09:46 AM

On-line Trolls and Rogue Web Sites
 
There are “legitimate” web sites, with acceptable rules that appear to be a “safe” playground, that are safe only in appearance. Unfortunately with an abundance of bad people and bad web sites masquerading as legitimate the only safe option is to stay away.

That has been my experience with Club Sea Ray. The CSR web site has a normal set of rules regarding conduct and content. When those rules were flaunted by trolls engaged in personal attacks, objections were raised with the CSR moderators who then joined in the feeding-frenzy, adding their attacks to the cacophony.

My opinion remains that these small-minded, nasty and insecure jerks will continue in a never-ending series of personal attacks, adding to the thousands of replies and the dozens of topics that still remain on CSR targeting wingless. My ego is secure and unfettered by this baseless onslaught.

The current issue is that this has now severely affected my family.

There had been a gradual shift towards my increasing security once these attacks started, due to my concerns and to those of my wife from these on-line personal attacks, now always locking all doors, now always arming the perimeter alarm and now always ensuring the personal protection remains at-hand, both at-home and on the boat, even though we live in a beautiful neighborhood and boat along the US eastern coastline.

The piece of resistance was when CSR members recounted a recent multi-family get-together and the topics discussed were “humor from following bad CSR advice on Vacuflush repairs” and attacks on wingless.

This totally “creeped-out” the wife!

Here are people at a social family gathering that are totally obsessed with personal attacks on someone they have not met yet!

Maybe these people only need wingless for a piñata because they lead an empty and meaningless life and need to bolster their hollow ego. Maybe they won’t ever engage in direct physical attacks.

Who knows?

Even if they don’t ever act on the threat to my family, the other concern is that the never-ending incitement against wingless. That has also created a threat to my family.

I have not ever met any of these people, but they are totally obsessed with attacking wingless!

The only positive steps taken by the CSR forum moderators was to finally change the appearance of the word “wingless” to “********” and to finally just delete a topic with obscene images controlled by the CSR trolls and CSR moderators. It was the wingless request to remove that obscene content from CSR that caused the moderators to banish wingless a year earlier.

The banishment of wingless was well over a year ago, but the obsessed CSR trolls continue engaging in personal attacks unabated.

The CSR moderators have ignored all subsequent requests to remove any personal attacks against wingless. The trolls now use: wingcrap; wingtard; w!ngless and a plethora of additional spelling iterations for the personal attacks to avoid the recent asterisk filter. The CSR moderators tolerate and participate in that conduct.

There is not an allegation that I am innocent. I’ve tried ignoring the attacks, responding to the attacks and even lashing-out in-response. I even rejoined using a new account to respond on-line. Nothing helps! The CSR personal attacks are incessant.

Now that my family has been affected I find the situation perpetuated by these bad people totally unacceptable!

The CSR trolls and moderators continue to stalk me, both here on THT and on the Bayliner forum, with 20+ troll hits a day into my user profiles.

The other troubling aspect is that these trolls and moderators are parents, guiding their brood down this ego-centric, evile path.

My advice is to be wary of CSR, to minimize your on-line profile and to never post any personal information.

Dulcecita Lures 05-27-2010 09:57 AM

I obviously don't know you and this is no attack on you in any way, shape or form -- but what in the hell did you do to piss them off so badly?? I mean, most Internet boater and fisher folks I know just don't "go after" somebody for no reason at all? Yeah, there a lot of trolls and complete idiots out there (again, not lumping you in that category), but it's easy to ignore them. So what gives?

Snapper Head 05-27-2010 10:10 AM

The internet - it's not for everyone. Really.


Big Al

My Gal 05-27-2010 10:43 AM

Ain't that so. Got a grin out of that.

OReely 05-27-2010 12:07 PM

The OReely sympathizes with you. The OReely has striven to provide accurate information to the hapless boaters on this forum. The OReely sometimes gets attacked for providing this fantastic information that the OReely has learned in nearly 30 years in the business. The OReely usually shrugs off these attacks by the juvenile participants of this forum. However, sometimes the OReely fires back with a bit of sarcasm. The OReely is sorry for your troubles but the OReely thinks you might have brought some of it on yourself.

Perhaps, if we didn't refer to ourselves in the third person, a little respect might be gained. And don't visit that site any more. Problem solved. :thumbsup:

Skål 05-28-2010 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by Dulcecita Lures (Post 3000756)
. So what gives?

He gives bad advice and then when you call him on it, he'll riffle off 6 pages of link laden overly verbose crap trying to prove otherwise. When that fails he blames CSR and the conspiracies. Fact is if he "stayed" away from the sites that have grown irritated with him he'd soon run out of boating forums. Watch

Mr. Demeanor 05-28-2010 08:23 AM

If you have to lock your doors and arm your alarm system because of a website you visit, I think you need to shut off the computer.

Jack F 05-28-2010 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by Mr. Demeanor (Post 3002898)
If you have to lock your doors and arm your alarm system because of a website you visit, I think you need to shut off the computer.


Or seek help….

cgrand 05-28-2010 08:30 AM

does owning a sea ray do this to you, or is it the other way around?

Marlin009 05-28-2010 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by OReely (Post 3001040)
The OReely sympathizes with you. The OReely has striven to provide accurate information to the hapless boaters on this forum. The OReely sometimes gets attacked for providing this fantastic information that the OReely has learned in nearly 30 years in the business. The OReely usually shrugs off these attacks by the juvenile participants of this forum. However, sometimes the OReely fires back with a bit of sarcasm. The OReely is sorry for your troubles but the OReely thinks you might have brought some of it on yourself.

Perhaps, if we didn't refer to ourselves in the third person, a little respect might be gained. And don't visit that site any more. Problem solved. :thumbsup:

Jimmy was thinking the same thing.

SeaJay 05-28-2010 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by Mr. Demeanor (Post 3002898)
If you have to lock your doors and arm your alarm system because of a website you visit, I think you need to shut off the computer.

Exactlly, they are only words on a computer screen. Ignore em.

carterchapman 05-28-2010 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by Mr. Demeanor (Post 3002898)
If you have to lock your doors and arm your alarm system because of a website you visit, I think you need to shut off the computer.

+1 Sir!

freeporttuna 05-28-2010 08:51 AM

Freeport thinks wingless needs to get some professional help.Wingless may not know this but this does appear apparent to freeport.

chuck1 05-28-2010 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by cgrand (Post 3002921)
does owning a sea ray do this to you, or is it the other way around?

IMHO - It has nothing to do with the type of boat. :trout:

rbodine 05-28-2010 09:04 AM

I too would like to know the "back" story on this one. I have only been on for a year or two, and with a boat as noticeable as mine, I am glad I haven't made those types of enemies yet! I honestly don't see how you would or could, most everyone I have met on here or have seen on the water that recognized me from THT have been great. There are a few exceptions, but I just avoid those and know who they are.

midway 05-28-2010 09:18 AM

It has nothing to do with the boat you own, you would have had to be there and read, you would then understand all. Notice I did not attack anyone or blame anyone.:grin:

MLauman 05-28-2010 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by Skål (Post 3002847)
He gives bad advice and then when you call him on it, he'll riffle off 6 pages of link laden overly verbose crap trying to prove otherwise. When that fails he blames CSR and the conspiracies. Fact is if he "stayed" away from the sites that have grown irritated with him he'd soon run out of boating forums. Watch

Yep. I've been a member here and there for many years and although I never personally engaged him, I watched many meltdowns from the sidelines. Fact is - he doesn't know when to quit and, as is clearly evident from the essay he penned in the OP - he is his own worst enemy.

Gotta go - my black helicopter is taking off now.

DrJim 05-28-2010 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by wingless (Post 3000740)
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:banghead::rofl::banghead::rofl::banghead::rofl:

Thanks for the laugh!

auguste 05-28-2010 05:58 PM

Ohhhh heck ;?

rbodine 05-28-2010 07:53 PM

Bueller, Bueller, Beuller..........


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