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AGENT86 05-23-2010 01:12 PM

This Is It, Lost Fans, Tonight...
 
Is the FINAL episode EVER. It's all coming to an end, we will get SOME answers, not too many, hopefully enough to figure it out!!



AGENT86 05-23-2010 11:06 PM

Well, it's all over. GREAT ending, good twist & nicely wrapped up. I give this ending a solid 8.5 out of 10 :thumbsup:

To all who participated in my LOST threads...a sincere THANK YOU.

TimW Texas 05-24-2010 03:39 AM

Ya it was good we where sitting on the edge. until the Jack-father thing. I wanted a little bit better clarification of the whole thing. It still left me LOST and Ben to he did not go in.

t500hps 05-24-2010 05:55 AM

still somewhat LOST......should have known they wouldn't make anything crystal-clear!!

LI Sound Grunt 05-24-2010 06:20 AM

I am sure I would have been as lost as ever if I saw it ....and are you all sure its over ...I mean do we really ever know anything here...

Mr. Demeanor 05-24-2010 09:34 AM

I enjoyed it.
So the people that left on the plane, they were not dead?

Mr. Demeanor 05-24-2010 09:35 AM

PS. I am now into "Flash Forward".

Joe 05-24-2010 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by Mr. Demeanor (Post 2993668)
PS. I am now into "Flash Forward".

I wouldn't get too much into that. It doesn't return next season.

jeremyj 05-24-2010 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by Mr. Demeanor (Post 2993666)
I enjoyed it.
So the people that left on the plane, they were not dead?

They're all dead aren't they? Hell, I'm still lost....

AGENT86 05-24-2010 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by Mr. Demeanor (Post 2993666)
I enjoyed it.
So the people that left on the plane, they were not dead?

Correct:thumbsup:

They died MUCH later on, at some other point in time, as did many others. For instance, Hurley & Ben ran the Island (Like Jacob & Richard, but with new & better rules:grin:) and dies at a different time period, but, were dead when they met up in the "alternate universe".

I really enjoyed the ride, and I feel it was a great way to end, although, when you think about it, they answered almost none of the island mysteries/questions/issues as opposed to how they resolved the alternate universe questions/mysteries/issues.

That was a bit bothersome, I (and many "OTHERS":grin: wanted at least the majority of the island issues resolved/answered. Anyway, this way, the theories, speculation, debates, etc. shall go on for a long, long, long time. The End.;)

AGENT86 05-24-2010 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by jeremyj (Post 2993976)
They're all dead aren't they? Hell, I'm still lost....

Try going here; http://lost-forum.com/index.php

You may find some answers you seek...or not:Q:thumbsup:

AGENT86 05-24-2010 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by Mr. Demeanor (Post 2993668)
PS. I am now into "Flash Forward".

I started to watch the premier, then decided against it & turned it off mid way through. I simply refuse to allow myself to be sucked in to any more television series. However...I am writing a few;)

AGENT86 05-24-2010 09:59 PM


Originally Posted by LI Sound Grunt (Post 2993323)
I am sure I would have been as lost as ever if I saw it ....and are you all sure its over ...I mean do we really ever know anything here...

Oh, yeah. It's over.

AGENT86 05-24-2010 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by TimW Texas (Post 2993054)
Ya it was good we where sitting on the edge. until the Jack-father thing. I wanted a little bit better clarification of the whole thing. It still left me LOST and Ben to he did not go in.


I have to re-watch it, but have a pretty good idea/opinion as to whats what. Ben realized that he was dead. He remembered everything about his life on the island. He was truly a changed man, a good man, in the end. He was truly sorry for hurting & ultimately murdering Locke (that was when Locke REALLY died...) and everybody else (Remember how manipulating he was...how many people he murdered or hurt directly and indirectly:o

He wasn't ready to "move on" to what awaited him next.

Ben still had "issues" to resolve & come to terms with. That's why he choose to stay behind. Eventually, he will be ready & when he is, he will go. I guess that alternate reality is something like purgatory...exactly where the writers said they weren't... which is a half truth, I guess.

When on the island, they were all alive, except Christian Shepard. Yeah, definitely have to re-watch "THE END". ;cool;

JEVLACH 05-25-2010 08:11 AM

For all of you 'Lost' fans, this article is from NY Post online and thought it was pretty funny:

Hell, I'm Lost

By Joanna P. DelBuono
“I’m dead, too?” Jack asks at the end of Lost. OMG, what tripe. From the pens of Damon Lindelof and J.J. Abrams this is the best they could come up with? After six seasons of black smoke monsters, others, a crazy French woman, bite your nails off cliffhangers and polar bears in the Pacific, all Lindelof and Abrams can come up with is “I’m dead, too?”

Let me get this straight, for the past six seasons they’ve all been dead, but had to wait for Jack to remember that he was dead so they could all be together? And Benjamin, Mister Meanie himself, had some issues to deal with so he was staying, staying where, outside of the church, in the alternate world, at the island? Where oh where did he stay and where oh where did they die? IDK.

Okay, okay, they’re all dead, I get it, but did they die initially in the plane crash, did they die at different times on the island, did they really get saved and then go back to the island, but then died, or did they wait for Jack to die before they could die and did Lock really die at the end? Was he faking it laying on those rocks? Did Jack’s surgery really cure his spinal injury, or was that just my imagination? I’M SO LOST.
Why where they in the church, wasn’t that building the portal to get back to the Island, was there going to be a group funeral mass for the Oceanic 11? Why wasn’t the entire cast there and why was it a different brother? And finally where did the dog come from?

I stayed up till 11:30 pm waiting for a really boffo ending and all I got was a GPS full of dead ends.

Not for nuthin’™ Damon and J.J., but fading to black would have been better, then there would have been a reunion option. Cue “Don’t Stop Believin’!”

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AGENT86 05-25-2010 11:29 PM


Originally Posted by JEVLACH (Post 2995789)
For all of you 'Lost' fans, this article is from NY Post online and thought it was pretty funny:

Hell, I'm Lost

By Joanna P. DelBuono
“I’m dead, too?” Jack asks at the end of Lost. OMG, what tripe. From the pens of Damon Lindelof and J.J. Abrams this is the best they could come up with? After six seasons of black smoke monsters, others, a crazy French woman, bite your nails off cliffhangers and polar bears in the Pacific, all Lindelof and Abrams can come up with is “I’m dead, too?”

Let me get this straight, for the past six seasons they’ve all been dead, but had to wait for Jack to remember that he was dead so they could all be together? And Benjamin, Mister Meanie himself, had some issues to deal with so he was staying, staying where, outside of the church, in the alternate world, at the island? Where oh where did he stay and where oh where did they die? IDK.

Okay, okay, they’re all dead, I get it, but did they die initially in the plane crash, did they die at different times on the island, did they really get saved and then go back to the island, but then died, or did they wait for Jack to die before they could die and did Lock really die at the end? Was he faking it laying on those rocks? Did Jack’s surgery really cure his spinal injury, or was that just my imagination? I’M SO LOST.
Why where they in the church, wasn’t that building the portal to get back to the Island, was there going to be a group funeral mass for the Oceanic 11? Why wasn’t the entire cast there and why was it a different brother? And finally where did the dog come from?

I stayed up till 11:30 pm waiting for a really boffo ending and all I got was a GPS full of dead ends.

Not for nuthin’™ Damon and J.J., but fading to black would have been better, then there would have been a reunion option. Cue “Don’t Stop Believin’!”


Obviously, this writer didn't understand LOST. Real brief; EVERYTHING that happenmed on the island was REAL. it happened, AND, they were all alive on the island...UNLESS they happened to die, for instance, Mr.Echo...died on the island. Boone, died on the island, Shannon, Anna Lucia, Libby, etc., all died on island.

When they were rescued, they were REALLY rescued. Time travel, all real. Desmond was the key, he was special. In season four, when he "mind" time traveled, he also went to the "alternate universe", the place they all made for themselves when they died, to wait for each other before "moving on".

When Widmore returns to the island to attempt to stop smokie from leaving, and puts Desmond through that electro magnetic experiment, to see if he can tolerate those high levels of eletromagnetic energy so he can fight/destroy smokie, Desmond travels (again, in mind/soul) to the alt. reality, the place where the Losties there are already dead and waiting for the rest to move on.

He isn't immediately aware of this, but, by the end of the episode, when he returns to the island (his conciseness) he is fully aware, which, happened with the help of Charlie (Charlie wasn't aware that he was helping Desmond, because he didn't know that he himself was dead) when he met/touched Penny, his only true love (remember he is directed to her with Daniel Whidmore/Faraday's help...after their little talk on the bench, when Daniel somehow recalls detonating a hydrogen bomb) and he passes out for a split second. This was all of his past/present/future/live/dead memories/realties hitting him at once.

So...jump ahead to the final episode. Desmond has already begun gathering the group together in the alternate universe, or, what the writers/creators called the "flash sideways." We had Flash-Backs in the first three seasons. Then Flash Forward with Flash Backs in season four, just Flash Forwards in season five, coupled with time travel & different time periods, and, season six have all been Flash side ways. The Alternate Universe, or, Purgatory, whatever you like to call it.

On the island, Jacob was dead, still helping to guide the final candidates. As we saw, Jack choose to be the "one". He vowed to protect the island, and destroy/kill man In Black, NotLocke, Smokie, whatever. As you all saw, Jack succeeds, with Desmond's help. When Desmond steps into the pool of water with the light (Exotic matter, anyone? This is what Dr.Pierre Chang said it was) and pulls the stone plug...or cork (Remember the ep. with Jacob explaining WHAT MIB was and the function of the island to keep him there. He used a bottle of wine & the cork to get his point across...ties in nicly to this scene) the light goes out, the island begins to sink into the sea, and more importantly, the Smoke Monster becomes mortal, trapped in the form of John Locke, Jack also becomes mortal again.....BUT, now Jack is able to kill the Smoke Monster.

We see the two in a fight to the death, Smokie knifes Jack, Kate shoots Smokie (Finally...she does something right!:grin:) and Jack kicks him over the cliffery similar to how Smokie kicked Jacob, his brother, into the fire as Jacob was dying from the fatal knife wounds inflicted by Ben.

So, now, Jack must put the plug/cork back from where Desmond removed it. Meanwhile, over on Hydra Island, Lapedis, Richard & Miles are in the final stages of repairing the Ajira passenger plane to escape the island. Time is short. Kate & Sawyer take Lockes boat, haul azz to Hydra, grab Claire & board the plane just in the nic of time.

Jack, Hurley & Ben go back to the water cave of light, Jack transfers his special powers given to him by Jacob to Hurley. jack is lowered into the cavern. He finds Desmond, ties Desmond onto the rope for Hurley & Ben to haul back up & out. Jack, mortally wounded, manages to put the plug back into the hole and the light cycles back on, the water begins to flow again & Jack wakes up in the same spot that Jacob found his brothers dead body in AFTER Jacob threw him down the hole into the light. Which, BTW, is HOW he became the Smoke Monster.

Jack staggers back through the bamboo forest, just like in the pilot episode in season one, except this time he lays down (in the same spot he woke up after the crash of Oceanic 815). Vincent runs out of the woods & lays down beside Jack to comfort Jack in his final moments. As Jack lay there, dying, he is becoming aware of everything in the alt. universe, remembering (Jack was in denial) everything from his island life with Christian's help.

As Jack accepts he is dead, comes to terms & peace with the fact, we see him laying there, his final vision is that of his friends flying away in the Ajira plane. His eyes close, he is dead, his job complete on the island. BTW, notice the dirty sneaker hanging from the lace in the bamboo forest. Same sneaker from pilot episode. It was brand new/clean then. This final scene simply verifies the time that passed, and that everything WAS indeed REAL on the island.

I hope this helps clear it up for anyone that may have been confused. I am including a few screen caps from the last scene where Jack lays down to die. I re-watched it again last night. It went up in my rating from an 8.5 to a 9.8...it REALLY was a beautiful, emotional, very fitting end.:thumbsup:


http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/o.../finalecap.jpg








twentynine 05-26-2010 12:01 AM

86 you think maybe you a little obcessed with this lost show thing

AGENT86 05-26-2010 04:44 AM


Originally Posted by twentynine (Post 2997577)
86 you think maybe you a little obcessed with this lost show thing

No. The show had/has a HUGE devout audience. It was more than your average show. So very well written that you actually became very invested (emotionally, purely on an entertainment /mental escape on a weekly basis level....) in the characters. It is a character driven plot like no other.

A lot of people are still a bit confused about certain aspects of the show, I simply tried to help clarify their questions. I spent six years watching this program, so, naturally it's a part of my life on some level. However, if you read my earlier posts, you will understand that I am now basically, television free....I no longer am bound to the tube by ANY program.

Matter of fact, there is ONE show I love to watch, because I LOVE to laugh, and this show gets me laughing HARD! The Sarah Silverman Show. BUT...I have decided to not watch it on a weekly basis anymore either. I will wait for the show to be released on DVD every year & buy it & watch it that way. The days of me setting my schedule around a television series are over. If I want to see something bad enough, it'll have to be on DVD, on my time frame, not theirs.

I take it you weren't a watcher of LOST? If not, then, it would be hard for you to understand the attachment to the show. However (Hmmm, I think I like that word, "However":grin:) I fully realize it's a show, not real & purely entertainment...in other words, I'm not obsessed...just ask my shrink:grin::trout:;):Q:Q

CJS 05-26-2010 06:08 AM

Agent86 - Thanks for the clarifications - I makes more sense to me. I'll
rewatch the last episode.

One thing - Did Hurlys numbers, besides adding up to the 108 minute
re-set time and being the #'s on the hatch, have any other significance?

I've enjoyed the ride


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