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Old 01-25-2010, 07:23 PM
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Daughter has a 2001 Mitshubishi Eclipse. She got it when she started driving and it is banged, dented, scaped and looks awful, but runs great.

She called me today to say she smelled something from the emgine and her car was running hot. I had her bring it round to work and went out to take a look at it.

There is a hairline crack on the top of the radiator - about 3 inches long horizontally. In the front of the radiator opposite the top coolant intake. It was more steam coming out than liquid, I guess since the crack is probably above the coolant level in the radiator.

She graduates in June and is either off to grad school in New York and doesn't need a car, or is going to work where we will get her a new (to her) car as a graduation gift and a last farewell to paying for school from the 'rents! Her old car will go to the Salvation Army.

So I would rather not pay to have a new radiator if I can mend this one.

Question, can I put a weld across the crack? Or otherwise seal it in any way? Or is a new radiator my only choice?

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Old 01-25-2010, 07:36 PM
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You could try J B Weld. I've seen it keep oil in older Harleys and that's a testament in itself.
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Is the crack in the plastic or is it in metal? It may be ''mendable'' with epoxy like JB Weld as mentioned. Make sure the area being repaired is very clean and dry. Sand it and get it roughed up before applying the epoxy. Let the epocxy cure before adding fluid and putting it under pressure.

I would venture to say an aftermarket radiator for that car is around $150.
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If it's all metal & not any of that plastic, a radiator shop should be able to weld it to last long enough. A salvage yard is another good option.
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I too have seen JB weld fix radiator leaks but as always preparation is key.

Timing belt OK?
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Old 01-25-2010, 08:02 PM
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Menzies, find a local radiator shop and have them take a look. A replacement rad is probably in the 150.00 to 200.00 dollar range for the part. thats aftermarket not Mits but will work fine. A repair MAY work but is it worth the cost of a tow or your daughter being broke down in the wrong place at the wrong time? A radiator expands and contracts a considerable amount and will challenge the best epoxy to hold tight. Do not drive without water or you will be looking at a bigger repair.Good Luck.
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Thanks - it's all metal not plastic at the top like some. I'll get a price first - I'm guessing they can do that sight unseen otherise it will have to wait until the weekend when I can take it along with a couple of milk jugs full of water!
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Rough the area as mentioned and use brake cleaner to clean the area of any oils in the antifreeze. They actually make a radiator epoxy that adheres very well to that plastic but I have also used JB weld on the buggy with very good results. For a larger crack once you put the still wet epoxy on you want to put a brace in the epoxy. Use either a thin piece of tin or aluminum cut larger than the crack and sand and clean it like you did the radiator tank. Form and test fit it before applying the epoxy, then put the epoxy on the tank making sure it is put on wider than your brace. Put the brace into the epoxy making sure you cover the edges of the brace with epoxy. We did this to a friends Jeep out in Moab, Utah in the middle of the desert 11 years ago, and the cheap ass is still using the same radiator.
Never mind I just saw where you said it was metal, take it to a shop and have it brazed.
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yeah my daughter had brake pads that wore out so i jb welded some new pads on and it worked .... WTF put a new one in and be done with it . whats $200 then a phone call in the wee hrs of the morning saying shes stranded ??? seriously
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All metal....a rad shop Will be able to solder that old dog right up! Personally I would even waste my time trying epoxies.
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The other side..newer radiators are so thin it may be unrepairable, even if it's brass. The plastics have mold release on them, so it's hard to get anything to stick to them, like JB weld. Just don't let it go too long, or you'll be doing an engine too.
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depending on motor $80 to 140 wholesale I'd replace it it could do alot more damage if it lets go unoticed
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I would give this a try... Cheap fix, and worked wonders for me when I was 16-18 going through cars at a rapid pace.. Might buy you the time you need, and is available at any auto parts store, and probably wal-mart as well.

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I just did a search for the year, make, and model and the new radiator is <$150. Figure shipping and anti-freeze and 1 hour of your time for less than $200. A radiator shop will likely cost half of that.

Is it worth $100 to you for a band-aid?
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Buy her a new Camaro.
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Originally Posted by LI Sound Grunt View Post
Buy her a new Camaro.

Either that or an older VW Bug. That will fix the radiator issue.
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The coolant system runs under pressure, the laws of gravity don't necessarily apply.

Radiator repair shop, weld if possible but it's probably really thin aluminum.

Replace if needed.
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The really cheap fix is a non-pressurized cap. As long as the water temperature doesn't go over 212 yer golden. The pressure cap raises the boiling point 3 degrees for every pound of pressure. don't put a low temp t'stat in it..if the computer doesn't see 180 degrees, it won't go into normal loop operation.
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Just replace the rad with an aftermarket, it's cheap and you'll know it's done - unless there is something unusual about that vehicle it shouldn't be a difficult replacement.

And an aside, unless it is absolutely trashed AFAIK there's no sense in donating a car to charity. You'll get a lousy tax deduction, they'll sell it for pennies on the dollar becuase they aren't in the used car business, and someone ELSE will end up turning a profit on it. Put it up for sale on craigslist for $1000 or whatever, someone who actually needs a car will buy it, and then give half your money to the charity and you'll probably all still come out ahead.

(Last year I met a guy who owns a towing company that does work for charities - I couldn't believe the stories of cars he's picked up [anything from absolute trash to collectors cars from estates] and he gets right of first refusal on them - which apparently was very profitable for him)
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Cheap enough to fix with an after market I think, Menzies. Another option is to call the local junk car dealers and get a used one. Either way, if replaced it is done and you don't have to worry about your daughter breaking down.
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