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Old 01-18-2010, 04:22 PM
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San Diego Police Arrest Jets Fan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJqd_5fC7ZI

Who knows what the whole story is, but you can hear the fans around him saying he didn't do anything, he was just cheering.



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What's the big deal?

After all, he's a Jets fan.


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Originally Posted by Snapper Head View Post
What's the big deal?

After all, he's a Jets fan.


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They should have arrested Norv Turner.
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Been to a few NFL Games locally, a big problem here can be people jumping sections. that gets you thrown out... It could have been anything from throwing something on the field to jumping sections... The officers did act very professional.
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Hard to say what led up to that but clearly if all the SD fans around him were sticking up for an opposing team fan saying he did nothing wrong then I'd say it's a pretty safe bet he didn't do anything to warrant 4 or 5 bully cops arresting him and carrying him away like that. Near the end of the video you can see a SD fan giving the arrested man's g/f (or wife) his phone number saying he will be a witness for the guy.

Another guy says "he didn't do anything, someone threw something at him....... way to earn your $60 K a year .... taking the wrong guy out of the stadium"

Same guy starts telling an officer "They arrested him for nothing, I would have resisted too, you don't have the right to arrest him for doing nothing, you don't have that right, just because you have a badge you do not have that right". Of course they ended up escorting him out too.

I really applaud that guy for sticking up for him! Cops wonder why people don't like them? Well here is a prime example....abuse of authority! Thank goodness for technology and video!

One last observation.... 4 cops wrestling a man in close proximity to others saying the guy didn't do anything.... with their loaded firearms in reach of anyone close by for the taking. That could have turned into a really ugly mess. That video should be used as training for other cops. It should be titled "Don't be a dumbass jackboot like these guys"
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Been to a few NFL Games locally, a big problem here can be people jumping sections. that gets you thrown out... It could have been anything from throwing something on the field to jumping sections... The officers did act very professional.
Professional? Really? Based on what exactly.... the fact that they didn't beat the guy?

If you listen to the people they are all saying someone threw something at the guy they arrested....the guy they arrested didn't do anything. The cops would have been viewed in a better light if they had asked a few questions and got to the bottom of things instead of just hauling off that guy like they did.

Based on that video and what the witnesses were TRYING to convey to the cops...the cops get a BIG FAT FAIL on that one!
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Hard to say what led up to that but clearly if all the SD fans around him were sticking up for an opposing team fan saying he did nothing wrong then I'd say it's a pretty safe bet he didn't do anything to warrant 4 or 5 bully cops arresting him and carrying him away like that. Near the end of the video you can see a SD fan giving the arrested man's g/f (or wife) his phone number saying he will be a witness for the guy.

Another guy says "he didn't do anything, someone threw something at him....... way to earn your $60 K a year .... taking the wrong guy out of the stadium"

Same guy starts telling an officer "They arrested him for nothing, I would have resisted too, you don't have the right to arrest him for doing nothing, you don't have that right, just because you have a badge you do not have that right". Of course they ended up escorting him out too.

I really applaud that guy for sticking up for him! Cops wonder why people don't like them? Well here is a prime example....abuse of authority! Thank goodness for technology and video!

One last observation.... 4 cops wrestling a man in close proximity to others saying the guy didn't do anything.... with their loaded firearms in reach of anyone close by for the taking. That could have turned into a really ugly mess. That video should be used as training for other cops. It should be titled "Don't be a dumbass jackboot like these guys"
That's a lot of assessment on your part from a youtube video.

So every time that someone is being arrested and/or detained by the police, they should let them go if the people in the area say "he didn't do anything"?

If you resist, you get controlled. You can have all of the pie-in-the-sky ideals about right and wrong that you want, but if you resist a cop(s), unless yer Godzilla, yer going to be controlled.

What is interesting is that there is a cut in the video from the guy cheering for his team, and when the cops show up. So we don't know wtf happened in that time span, nor how long it was.

Would you rather that one of the cops pulled his weapon in order to provide cover for the other officers? Yeah, right. You would be howling if that happened.

And I'll say it again - he was only a Jets fan


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The guy who posted the video explains that in the desciption area.


What is interesting is that there is a cut in the video from the guy cheering for his team, and when the cops show up. So we don't know wtf happened in that time span, nor how long it was.
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And I'll say it again - he was only a Jets fan.....

Mostly I laugh at what you write, Al, but minimizing something by using that kind of attempt at humor falls flat...
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He does explain some activity. Let's assume he covers it all, then there is the question of why he was carted off. I agree that if all of the folks around him were questioning the process of the cops, that would indicate that maybe he was not out of line.

There must be a reason that the cops went there, someone had to complain. I can't buy the fact that some SD cops got bent out of shape by a Jet fan.

Okay, so let's even say that the guy is being wrongly carted off. What is his best course of action in that scenario - resisting, or going quietly and pleading his case after the fact, perhaps even as far as filing a complaint and/or suing. He blew those options once he started resisting.

From the guys actions, I would wager that he was D&D, and that some fans called or texted the cops about him. Again, he is a Jets fan, so he is not that bright.


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He does explain some activity. Let's assume he covers it all, then there is the question of why he was carted off. I agree that if all of the folks around him were questioning the process of the cops, that would indicate that maybe he was not out of line.

There must be a reason that the cops went there, someone had to complain. I can't buy the fact that some SD cops got bent out of shape by a Jet fan.

Okay, so let's even say that the guy is being wrongly carted off. What is his best course of action in that scenario - resisting, or going quietly and pleading his case after the fact, perhaps even as far as filing a complaint and/or suing. He blew those options once he started resisting.

From the guys actions, I would wager that he was D&D, and that some fans called or texted the cops about him. Again, he is a Jets fan, so he is not that bright.


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You seem really preoccupied with the fact that he is a Jet fan, so I think your credibility has flown out the window.
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You seem really preoccupied with the fact that he is a Jet fan, so I think your credibility has flown out the window.
I never had any credibility.

And it's not my fault he is a Jets fan.



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Originally Posted by Snapper Head View Post
That's a lot of assessment on your part from a youtube video.
A picture is worth 1000 words and a video speaks even more.... I watched it a few times and I posted my opinion


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So every time that someone is being arrested and/or detained by the police, they should let them go if the people in the area say "he didn't do anything"?
Should the police handcuff you and take you away without cause or evidence of any wrong doing? I sure hope that is not the America I'm living in.

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If you resist, you get controlled. You can have all of the pie-in-the-sky ideals about right and wrong that you want, but if you resist a cop(s), unless yer Godzilla, yer going to be controlled.
I'm questioning why he was being arrested in the first place. It appears from the witnesses that someone threw something at HIM... not the other way around. If the guy deserved to be arrested then I'm sure the fans of the opposing team would have been happy to throw him under the bus. As it turns out these folks were TRYING to tell the police what happened and they weren't interested in getting to the bottom of things.... just interested in getting the guy handcuffed and taken out of there.

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Would you rather that one of the cops pulled his weapon in order to provide cover for the other officers? Yeah, right. You would be howling if that happened.
No, that's not what I was saying about the firearms... I was simply making an observation that in a crowd like that with people (possibly drinking alcohol) protesting the arrest it didn't seem all that smart to me that all hands were on the guy and no one was guarding their weapons. I think the whole situation was handled incorrectly.... based on what the video presented. Perhaps there is more video showing something more and I'm wrong in my assessment of what happened

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And I'll say it again - he was only a Jets fan
My bad.... I didn't realize that was the "free pass" to being allowed to arrest someone for doing nothing illegal


Truth be told... I think there are some really good cops out there... but I think there are an equal amount of jackoffs who abuse their authority. When I see a video that makes me question the actions of those in a position of authority... I DO!
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Exactly how many arrests have you made GCG? The officers actually would have been within their rights to up the amount of force they were using to spray the guy(pepper spray) or even taze him. To sit there and struggle with a guy for minute actually invites injury to the officers and the suspect. No one appeared cussing, one officer was even seen bending over lightly tapping the guy and ask him to calm down (it seems). It may also come to a surprise to you that about 99 percent of the time citizens have no knowledge of why I am arresting someone.
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Imagine that, the little pot heads got her panties in a bunch because the big bad policeman arrested someone. I just love libtard hippies, and their lack of self responsibilty. Like was stated above you can see where the video was cut trying to make it appear as if the officers arrested the dipwad for no reason. Im sure the missing part is around somewhere, although Im not wasting my time looking for video of some moron showing his ass, then getting arrested.
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I would never draw any conclusions from a youtube video(period).

"Don't be a dumbass jackboot like these guys" . GCG, did you have a bad experience with the police at one time? Sounds like it.

I remember the time on the NJTP when a real bad ass cop hating murdering gentleman() is begging for some help from the NJSP after being run over by a truck. The week before he was saying, "all cops are #@%H*^'s". Rough life, cowboy!
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The officers actually would have been within their rights to up the amount of force they were using to spray the guy(pepper spray) or even taze him....
A point of order if you will, the state and its agents do not have "rights" only individuals have rights and the individuals rights end where the other mans nose begins. The state and its agents are only authorized to use those powers which have been granted to them by the citizenry.
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Exactly how many arrests have you made GCG?
ZERO, since I'm not a law enforcement officer.

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The officers actually would have been within their rights to up the amount of force they were using to spray the guy(pepper spray) or even taze him.
Seriously? If it turns out that the guy was doing nothing more than standing there chanting for his team and those officers approached and arrested him based on NOTHING more than someone calling and complaining about him chanting for his team then I think there is a problem with that arrest.


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To sit there and struggle with a guy for minute actually invites injury to the officers and the suspect. No one appeared cussing, one officer was even seen bending over lightly tapping the guy and ask him to calm down (it seems). It may also come to a surprise to you that about 99 percent of the time citizens have no knowledge of why I am arresting someone.
I certainly don't want to get into a pissing match with you, especially since I think you are one of the good cops (based on posts you've made that I've read). Suffice it to say we don't see eye to eye on the handling of this particular incident.
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Your right we dont see eye to eye on this one. Those officers were very professional, I feel quite assured that they did not just pick the guy out of crowd to arrest him for no reason. He would also have resisting arrest added to the docket.
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