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Old 01-17-2010, 05:16 AM
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Default Wonder why people don't think before the donate

Seems every time a terrible thing like the earhquake in Haiti happens people start throwing money around to make themselves feel better and this is what happens, I bet more than we would like to admit

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_haiti_wyclef_jean
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I do not know about the case you quoted

I guess the reality is that whereever there is money being spent, you can always argue that it could have been spent better and wiser

I worked 10 years for Canada's international foreign aid group (1974 to 1985) and for the last 4 year's was responsible for all international humanitarian assistance provided by Canada . . . traveled extensively in Africa, Asia and other places . . . earthquakes and flooding . . . famines . . . civil wars . . . genocide

We were always critisized for the small things . . . nobody every audited the number of lives we saved . . .
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Yes

The American Red Cross and Catholic Charities aretwo of many proven large organizations that have been on the ground in Haiti forever. They also can and will make immediate used of the money. Administrative expenses are minimal. Personally I have a friend who does work there with a local church group that has zero administrative expenses (all time services is donated and all money donated is spent in Haiti) so I can donate there also.

This sorta crap (article) is despicable and goes on in everything. But Our skepticism and Cynicism hopefully will not hurt the cause of the good guys overall.

CONGRATS to W !!!! It is very important for Republicans (especially after Lembaugh and that preacher) to be visible here to show we are united in our National Character and really honest and altruistic in our motivations. And Yes Auguste the same is true of the Canadians - that is for sure.
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I agree the two best places IMHO to donate are first to our church and then to the Red Cross.

Too many of these "NON PROFITS" are just set up with too many "adminstrative costs"
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Originally Posted by LI Sound Grunt View Post
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The American Red Cross and Catholic Charities aretwo of many proven large organizations that have been on the ground in Haiti forever. They also can and will make immediate used of the money. Administrative expenses are minimal. Personally I have a friend who does work there with a local church group that has zero administrative expenses (all time services is donated and all money donated is spent in Haiti) so I can donate there also.

This sorta crap (article) is despicable and goes on in everything. But Our skepticism and Cynicism hopefully will not hurt the cause of the good guys overall.

CONGRATS to W !!!! It is very important for Republicans (especially after Lembaugh and that preacher) to be visible here to show we are united in our National Character and really honest and altruistic in our motivations. And Yes Auguste the same is true of the Canadians - that is for sure.
Not to rain on your comment about the redcross but last i heard they were bankrupt

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0..._n_107542.html

also i know some people who use to work for them that made six fugures ++

I just want someone to show me JUST ONE charitable organization that is not currupt or 100% legit and then ill donate..

look at all the popular charities that lost money during the Madoff scandal.. seems some of these charities were investing your donated money to earn some interest to pay for there comfortable salaries.

I only donate to the Disabled American Veterans.
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Not to rain on your comment about the redcross but last i heard they were bankrupt

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0..._n_107542.html
Please reread the article you quoted

AMERICAN RED CROSS IS NOT BANKRUPT

American Red Cross has no money left in its relief budget

That does not mean the organization is bankrupt . . . they are still operating and they are seeking money to further help in Haiti

Please stop spreading misinformation

With 300,000 potential deaths, this is one of the worst natural disasters to every hit any nation
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Thanks for clearing that up Auguste.

There are several others with a long time presence and known to be effective - possibly with less admin expenses and less salaried executives than ARC - you can check that at the various charity watch web-sites..

here is a list
UNICEF, the United Nations Fund focusing on children, has worked on the ground in Haiti since 1949, so has the expertise to make a difference. You can donate here.
Doctors Without Borders is also present in-country. One senior staff member reports, “The situation is chaotic. I visited five medical centers, including a major hospital, and most of them were not functioning.” Donate to support public health efforts here.
MADRE, the international women’s rights NGO, partners with the Zanmi Lasante Clinic on the ground in Haiti. “The most urgent needs right now are bandages, broad-spectrum antibiotics and other medical supplies, as well as water tablets to prevent cholera outbreaks,” MADRE reports. Donate here.
Action Against Hunger has had a team in Haiti since 1985, and is ready to fly planeloads of emergency supplies from Paris to Port-au-Prince. Food is one necessity, but so is sanitation; in some Haitian towns, 70 percent of homes do not have plumbing. Donate here.
Mercy Corps has a history of deploying aid to regions affected by catastrophic earthquakes, such as Peru in 2007, China and Pakistan in 2008, and Indonesia last year. They are deploying a team to Haiti, and you can support their efforts here.
Partners in Health is the NGO founded in Haiti in 1987 by Dr. Paul Farmer, the celebrated physician and anthropologist who focuses on international social justice. The group’s emergency response focuses on delivering medical supplies and staff. Louise Ivers, PIH’s clinical director in the country, sent the message, “Port-au-Prince is devastated, lot of deaths. SOS. SOS.” Donate here.
• The International Rescue Committee, which in the past has resettled Haitian refugees in the United States, is deploying an Emergency Response Team to assist overwhelmed local aid groups. It will focus on critical medical, water, and sanitation assistance. Donate here.


This article came from here:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-a...to-help-haiti/
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Originally Posted by auguste View Post
Please reread the article you quoted

AMERICAN RED CROSS IS NOT BANKRUPT

American Red Cross has no money left in its relief budget

That does not mean the organization is bankrupt . . . they are still operating and they are seeking money to further help in Haiti

Please stop spreading misinformation

With 300,000 potential deaths, this is one of the worst natural disasters to every hit any nation
This is information and its to be taken for what its worth.

speaking of information...did you earn a salary during your charitable aid group? How much?
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http://www.charitynavigator.org/



Go to the above link and click on the A-Z directory. You will be quite surprised at some of the more well known charities that eat up most of the donations in operating costs.



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Originally Posted by nj ron View Post
http://www.charitynavigator.org/



Go to the above link and click on the A-Z directory. You will be quite surprised at some of the more well known charities that eat up most of the donations in operating costs.



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Most Requested Charities #2 on the list is Marine Semper Fi fund..

and may I add the DAV made the top ten slam dunk charities.

two thumbs up

interesting..thanx for this Ron
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I used to give all the time to the Paralyzed Veterans Of America until I checked them out on that site. Made me sick. Not to mention, they share or sell your info to a load of other useless beggers.



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I hope that is the case. Wyclef came here poor, made millions and has been supporting Haiti for years with his own money.
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Waiting for a 100% sure thing is just an excuse to do nothing. Giving to your local church is okay, but it's not going to do anything in the next few days or weeks, in most cases. Give to someone who has the logistical network to put it to work the fastest in this case.
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Two thumbs up for Red Cross.
I seriously doubt that rapper will get FedEx to get a load in next week.
Heck, our military is trying to get in, difficult because of all the damage and limited space.
Roads out of the one operating airport are a mess, only one port is open (barely & partially).
The Red Cross isn't even there yet!

One of my co-workers is Red Cross, they aren't going in until next week.
Right now, it's a military ball game, just look at the news.
I wouldn't give to anyone other than the ARC in this case.
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Let's show that we care. Below are instructions to text $10 to the Red Cross.

12:30am
(1/13/2010) You can text “HAITI” to 90999 to donate $10 to American Red Cross relief for Haiti.

Can we gather 200 members willing to donate an amount that can't buy 3 gallons of fuel?

My family already text 4 times, hope to see 196 other good souls responding.
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Donated directly to the Canadian Red Cross which has a presence in Haiti
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The Red Cross is indeed on the ground working.

Got this in an email form them this AM with a thank you note

http://american.redcross.org/site/Pa..._video_landing
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Originally Posted by glacierbaze View Post
Waiting for a 100% sure thing is just an excuse to do nothing. Giving to your local church is okay, but it's not going to do anything in the next few days or weeks, in most cases. Give to someone who has the logistical network to put it to work the fastest in this case.
Exactly. I am the good stewart of my money and if I get duped by a corrupt charity it is on them. They will have to answer to the ultimate authority.
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Not to rain on your comment

I only donate to the Disabled American Veterans.

Not to rain on your parade but they get none of my money after who they supported in the Presidential Election....
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Seems every time a terrible thing like the earhquake in Haiti happens people start throwing money around to make themselves feel better and this is what happens, I bet more than we would like to admit

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_haiti_wyclef_jean
So, I read the article at the link you posted. What is it that "Happened" exactly? What point are you making? The article does not say there is any wrong doing, or re-direction of funds? Are you suggesting that Wylef Jean is a thief? Or are you saying there is to much red tape for his efforts to be realized? You say "people start throwing money around to make themselves feel better and this is what happens"

What happened?
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