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Old 01-18-2010, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by B-Faithful View Post
steaks, I like just warm in the middle. Tuna just seared on the outside and cold in the middle


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Old 01-18-2010, 08:31 AM
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The more done you order your steak, the worse cut of meat you get. My choice is Medium Rare.
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Old 01-18-2010, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by B-Faithful View Post
steaks, I like just warm in the middle. Tuna just seared on the outside and cold in the middle



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Old 01-18-2010, 12:20 PM
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Wait staff: Do you need any steak sauce with that?

Me: I better not!
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Old 01-18-2010, 01:16 PM
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Medium/med rare for me. Wife likes it like leather...
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Old 01-18-2010, 01:41 PM
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Rare to medium rare depending on the cut. No steak sauce, ever. Given some of the pictures you boys are drooling over, I have to wonder if you've ever had a rare steak. Except of course that one pic with a raw egg in the middle of some ground beef.

GCG, how is it you like sushi but insist on well-done steak? Nothing wrong with that, but it strikes me as a bit different. Maybe some folks are just turned off by "blood" on their plates, but hell, that's just drippings from the meat which hold ALL the flavor. Well done = no dripping = no flavor. That's why a lot of restaurants put disclaimers on their menu's stating they won't be responsible for meat cooked past medium-well.
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Old 01-18-2010, 01:44 PM
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That ^^^ whole post is condescending and irritates me to no end. I don't give a rat's a$$ what the "CHEF" wants! I'm the one paying for it and I'm the one eating it and I'll get it cooked however the hell I want it cooked! The restaurant I mentioned the incident in was called RingSide and it is a very well known high end steakhouse in Portland, Oregon. Guess what, I got a new waiter who kept his opinions to himself and I got my steak cooked the way I wanted it!

As for a waiter doing his job, yes his job is to offer opinions IF I ASK! If I ask or seem hesitant in my choice then he is free to offer suggestions, when I flat out say "I'd like the Rib Eye Steak, Well Done please" it is NOT his place to say "if you order your steak that way the chef will be greatly insulted". WTF is that about? I'm there to enjoy a nice meal with friends, NOT to be given grief by the wait staff!

As for you telling me to "try my meat one degree lower next time"... I'd kindly suggest you mind your own business too! Sorry, I know that sounds mean but I'm absolutely irked at your telling me how I should eat my food! Did it ever occur to you that I've had ALL KINDS of rare, medium rare, medium steaks and I just prefer my steak cooked well done? Why can't you just back off and let me eat my food the way I like it?

As for Sushi..... well I happen to LOVE sushi, yep, I love raw fish... it's my absolute favorite food and anytime I'm asked where I want to eat... it's always SUSHI! I think your whole theory of rare meat and class is a load of crap! Taste is an individual thing and people should just be allowed to eat what they like without a pretentious snob telling them how wrong their choices are!
I'm not trying to, intending on, or feeling as though I've insulted you. We're talking about meat for god's sake.. chill

Its not a load of crap, its quite based in fact. I was simply explaining why some people have such a prejudice toward well done meat...

In a nice restaurant, a waiter is expected to guide you through the meal... as I said, he should have gone about it differently.. directly disagreeing with the customer isn't the mark of a good waiter.

Chef's view their meals as their art, and as such in they view you changing their dish is like you going up to a painter and saying "this is alright but you need more blue here, and these colors don't go well together" in his/her eyes. To them, you just said "you're an incompetent chef". They will react the same if you ask for a sauce that wasn't part of the dish, or salt & pepper it before even tasting it. If you go to a sushi bar and add wasabi to the sushi, drench it in soy sauce, or put ginger on top of it, you've just horribly insulted the sushi chef. Rubbing the chopsticks together is also insulting. In a high end restaurant, you've just insulted the chef if you do these things. That is just reality.
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Old 01-18-2010, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DrJim View Post
I have been to restaurants that suggested less than fully cooked pork dishes.

I got some rare chicken in chicken salad of all things once. I didnt go back for seconds.
I worked in a restuarant where we regularly had med rare free range chicken, and other fowl. Pork is just as safe as anything else rare... most to all trichnia cases are now from venison not pork.. pork was unsafe when you were allowed to slop food pigs.
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I'm not scared of raw either... here is me eating raw horse, and raw whale


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I'm not scared of raw either... here is me eating raw horse, and raw whale


Where's raw horse at on the "status" ladder?? I wouldnt offend the cook if I got it slightly cooked I hope
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I give up geech... Which one is which.
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I give up geech... Which one is which.
Horse is delicious... more tender than beef filet and the flavor of a ribeye

The cranberry sauce colored one is whale. Sometimes you'll see meat with blubber on it like this, but I've never had this. I had whale in Japan and in Norway. Disgusting in both places

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GCG, how is it you like sushi but insist on well-done steak? Nothing wrong with that, but it strikes me as a bit different. Maybe some folks are just turned off by "blood" on their plates,
Well raw fish and steak taste nothing alike. My not liking rare beef has nothing to do with texture or blood.... I simply prefer the taste of well done beef. For the record, well done to me does NOT mean burnt... it simply means no pink at all anywhere throughout the steak.


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I'm not trying to, intending on, or feeling as though I've insulted you. We're talking about meat for god's sake.. chill
I don't expect you to be able to see this from my point of view... but I'll try. I'm a woman (I think you know that) and I can't tell you how many times I've been told by men how to order my food, how to cook food, not to use salt on something I want salt on... the list goes on and on and it infuriates me!

It's never a question out of curiosity like "really honey, you like that?" it's always "you're wrong to order that that way". I don't know why men do this... it's almost neanderthal like "me man, me know food; you stupid woman you don't know what's what". Obviously this is a hot button issue with me and a VERY fast way to pick a fight with me. I'm a grown woman and I don't need a man to tell me how I should order the food I'M going to eat.

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Its not a load of crap, its quite based in fact. I was simply explaining why some people have such a prejudice toward well done meat...
Another explanation is that some people are just pompous jackasses

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In a nice restaurant, a waiter is expected to guide you through the meal...
Respectfully I disagree. IMO a waiter in ANY restaurant should only "guide me" through my meal selection if I ask. To "guide me" when I haven't asked is an insult to me. To each their own.

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Chef's view their meals as their art, and as such in they view you changing their dish is like you going up to a painter and saying "this is alright but you need more blue here, and these colors don't go well together" in his/her eyes. To them, you just said "you're an incompetent chef".
I'm not concerned with what the chef thinks, I'm concerned with paying to eat a meal I will enjoy the way I want it. For the record, I don't ask for a meal to be "altered" by a chef, but I do expect the meat to be cooked to the temperature and done-ness of my preference. If a chef can't handle that then he/she should get out of the kitchen

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If you go to a sushi bar and add wasabi to the sushi, drench it in soy sauce, or put ginger on top of it, you've just horribly insulted the sushi chef.
Ahh yes, another faux pas I commit is mixing my wasabi in with the soy sauce in the little dipping dish. An ex-b/f of mine once made the mistake of telling me (in a loud and snotty tone of voice) that I was insulting the Sushi chef when I did this (sitting at a Sushi bar). I shot him a cold-hearted glare that quickly let him know if he didn't want to be picking up pieces of his shredded balls off the floor he'd better shut the hell up! He never made the mistake again of telling me how I should or shouldn't eat my food
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Originally Posted by Gulf Coast Girl View Post
Well raw fish and steak taste nothing alike. My not liking rare beef has nothing to do with texture or blood.... I simply prefer the taste of well done beef. For the record, well done to me does NOT mean burnt... it simply means no pink at all anywhere throughout the steak.




I don't expect you to be able to see this from my point of view... but I'll try. I'm a woman (I think you know that) and I can't tell you how many times I've been told by men how to order my food, how to cook food, not to use salt on something I want salt on... the list goes on and on and it infuriates me!

It's never a question out of curiosity like "really honey, you like that?" it's always "you're wrong to order that that way". I don't know why men do this... it's almost neanderthal like "me man, me know food; you stupid woman you don't know what's what". Obviously this is a hot button issue with me and a VERY fast way to pick a fight with me. I'm a grown woman and I don't need a man to tell me how I should order the food I'M going to eat.



Another explanation is that some people are just pompous jackasses



Respectfully I disagree. IMO a waiter in ANY restaurant should only "guide me" through my meal selection if I ask. To "guide me" when I haven't asked is an insult to me. To each their own.



I'm not concerned with what the chef thinks, I'm concerned with paying to eat a meal I will enjoy the way I want it. For the record, I don't ask for a meal to be "altered" by a chef, but I do expect the meat to be cooked to the temperature and done-ness of my preference. If a chef can't handle that then he/she should get out of the kitchen



Ahh yes, another faux pas I commit is mixing my wasabi in with the soy sauce in the little dipping dish. An ex-b/f of mine once made the mistake of telling me (in a loud and snotty tone of voice) that I was insulting the Sushi chef when I did this (sitting at a Sushi bar). I shot him a cold-hearted glare that quickly let him know if he didn't want to be picking up pieces of his shredded balls off the floor he'd better shut the hell up! He never made the mistake again of telling me how I should or shouldn't eat my food
Of course I can see it from your point of you... prepare for the hailstorm of men talking about women telling them what to do lol....

I was only explaining how a chef sees it, from working in that industry for 6 or so years, without judgment on whether it is right or wrong. Thats just what they think

Lastly, for the record the correct way to do it is to put the whole wasabi in the dish, and pour the soy on top of it without mixing... but this is for sashimi only. With nigiri (fish on rice) and rolls (which largely I've not seen served in Japan which makes me think the elaborate rolls are an American idea) you are supposed to trust that the chef has put the correct amount of wasabi between the fish and the rice and only dip the fish in the pure soy.

Japanese are way more anal about protocol during a meal than Americans are. We just eat (and eat and eat and eat)
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I like pink
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Horsemeat was very popular here in the 70's for health reasons for a while. I remember it being sorta tough but different flavor than beef.

Ostrich to me looked and tasted just like a tenderloin or a good tender sirloin. You order it as you would beef - rare to well done.
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I like pink
It's my favorite Crayon... like red, but not quite.

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It's my favorite Crayon... like red, but not quite.

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For those that cook at home...Mind if I ask where u all get your fillets and what price/pound is considered good? I usually only eat steaks at a restaurant but would like to start cooking them at home once a week. Publix has cornered the grocery store market down here and I think they are a total rip-off.
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Originally Posted by wildgeechi View Post
I was only explaining how a chef sees it, from working in that industry for 6 or so years, without judgment on whether it is right or wrong. Thats just what they think
For the record, I like my beef medium. However, I don't know if I speak for anyone else on this forum but who give's rats --s how "chef sees it". Do you really think people go out to dinner so as not to offend the chef? That really is actually comical to consider, 'geesh I better order this right or I may offend the artist in the kitchen'. I have been to some of the finest restaurants Manhattan has to offer and that thought has never crossed my mind, maybe that's just me.
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