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Old 01-17-2010, 03:45 PM
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Why stop at beef, try eating your pork and chicken rare and medium rare and see what happens. Blood belongs on the cutting board not my plate.
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Old 01-17-2010, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by wildgeechi View Post
I've worked if 4 star restaurants where the head chef refused to cook a steak or tuna past med rare. In high in restaurants the chef is the bossman, so thats how that particular place rolled.

The waiter was just trying to help, which is his job. In a nice restaurant, the waiter's roll isn't just to take your order and bring your food, but more to guide you through the meal selection process, make recommendations, and aid you in determining the best drink compliment to go with it. High end waiters take their jobs pretty seriously. While he should have gone about that a little differently, a waiters job IS to essentially share his opinion... which is usually heavily influenced by the chef

That being said, try your meat one degree lower next time, with an open mind and without deciding you don't like it before you try it... most people who eat rare meat started much more cooked and moved down the scale when they realized how good it actually is that way.

Just like sushi, a palette for rare meat is a mark of social status and wealth as both have typically been out of reach of the common man until the past century. As such, people view both as being sophisticated and classy... so they force themselves to indulge in it and eventually develop a taste for it. Both are acquired tastes, as are fine wines, nice
That ^^^ whole post is condescending and irritates me to no end. I don't give a rat's a$$ what the "CHEF" wants! I'm the one paying for it and I'm the one eating it and I'll get it cooked however the hell I want it cooked! The restaurant I mentioned the incident in was called RingSide and it is a very well known high end steakhouse in Portland, Oregon. Guess what, I got a new waiter who kept his opinions to himself and I got my steak cooked the way I wanted it!

As for a waiter doing his job, yes his job is to offer opinions IF I ASK! If I ask or seem hesitant in my choice then he is free to offer suggestions, when I flat out say "I'd like the Rib Eye Steak, Well Done please" it is NOT his place to say "if you order your steak that way the chef will be greatly insulted". WTF is that about? I'm there to enjoy a nice meal with friends, NOT to be given grief by the wait staff!

As for you telling me to "try my meat one degree lower next time"... I'd kindly suggest you mind your own business too! Sorry, I know that sounds mean but I'm absolutely irked at your telling me how I should eat my food! Did it ever occur to you that I've had ALL KINDS of rare, medium rare, medium steaks and I just prefer my steak cooked well done? Why can't you just back off and let me eat my food the way I like it?

As for Sushi..... well I happen to LOVE sushi, yep, I love raw fish... it's my absolute favorite food and anytime I'm asked where I want to eat... it's always SUSHI! I think your whole theory of rare meat and class is a load of crap! Taste is an individual thing and people should just be allowed to eat what they like without a pretentious snob telling them how wrong their choices are!
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Originally Posted by nanjemoycat View Post
Why stop at beef, try eating your pork and chicken rare and medium rare and see what happens. Blood belongs on the cutting board not my plate.
Do that and I know where to find you in the morning. Better yet, lets mix up the juices.
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Originally Posted by Gulf Coast Girl View Post
That ^^^ whole post is condescending and irritates me to no end. I don't give a rat's a$$ what the "CHEF" wants! I'm the one paying for it and I'm the one eating it and I'll get it cooked however the hell I want it cooked! The restaurant I mentioned the incident in was called RingSide and it is a very well known high end steakhouse in Portland, Oregon. Guess what, I got a new waiter who kept his opinions to himself and I got my steak cooked the way I wanted it!

As for a waiter doing his job, yes his job is to offer opinions IF I ASK! If I ask or seem hesitant in my choice then he is free to offer suggestions, when I flat out say "I'd like the Rib Eye Steak, Well Done please" it is NOT his place to say "if you order your steak that way the chef will be greatly insulted". WTF is that about? I'm there to enjoy a nice meal with friends, NOT to be given grief by the wait staff!

As for you telling me to "try my meat one degree lower next time"... I'd kindly suggest you mind your own business too! Sorry, I know that sounds mean but I'm absolutely irked at your telling me how I should eat my food! Did it ever occur to you that I've had ALL KINDS of rare, medium rare, medium steaks and I just prefer my steak cooked well done? Why can't you just back off and let me eat my food the way I like it?

As for Sushi..... well I happen to LOVE sushi, yep, I love raw fish... it's my absolute favorite food and anytime I'm asked where I want to eat... it's always SUSHI! I think your whole theory of rare meat and class is a load of crap! Taste is an individual thing and people should just be allowed to eat what they like without a pretentious snob telling them how wrong their choices are!
I'll agree that to the extent you are paying, whatever, customer is always right.

But seriously, a well done steak is a waste of money unless you are making pot roast, stew, or burgers. It would be very hard to discriminate between filet and flank steak. Just eat something else.

Its the same with Tuna (as you apparently agree), rare = good, fully cooked = may as well eat canned.
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Originally Posted by nanjemoycat View Post
Why stop at beef, try eating your pork and chicken rare and medium rare and see what happens. Blood belongs on the cutting board not my plate.
I have been to restaurants that suggested less than fully cooked pork dishes.

I got some rare chicken in chicken salad of all things once. I didnt go back for seconds.
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Old 01-17-2010, 06:24 PM
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But seriously, a well done steak is a waste of money unless you are making pot roast, stew, or burgers. It would be very hard to discriminate between filet and flank steak. Just eat something else.

What is it with you people and your snootiness about how someone else eats their steak? It is not a waste of money to me if I like my steak well done; it's a waste of money to me if I get a rare steak because it will sit there on my plate uneaten because I don't like it rare! I also have no problem telling the difference in taste of a filet, a flank a rib, etc.

Just eat something else?..... thanks but I love my well done steak so if it's alright with you I'll go ahead and order a well done steak!
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I don't give a rats azz what people eat.

Some people here actually eat kingfish, bluefish and mullet.

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I don't give a rats azz what people eat.

Some people here actually eat kingfish, bluefish and mullet.
I prefer the thigh meat and femur bone of my enemies.

Raw.



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Old 01-17-2010, 08:23 PM
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I gotta go with GCG.

Who are you to tell anyone how to eat?!?

Did the steer die in vain because someone likes to eat part of it well done?

Unreal...
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I personally think that anything over med robs the flavor but thats my opinion I dont care how others eat it, they can not even put it on the grill or leave it on there til its a crisp, as long as there not making my steak let them eat it however they want. and I like mine med rare to med. a lil salt a lil crushed black pepper and serve after 2 min off the grill.
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Old 01-17-2010, 09:54 PM
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Why mess up a good steak with fire?

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Old 01-17-2010, 10:01 PM
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Med to rare. Any thing above med is burned, dry and not worth eating.
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Old 01-17-2010, 10:57 PM
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There's only one choice for me and that's medium rare. If you put a steak or chunk of beef in front of me well done I'll get up and leave the table hungry.
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I eat mine anywhere form medium to burnt, wife takes hers rare, I don't like blood running around my plate
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Old 01-18-2010, 05:54 AM
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I don't understand how the definition of an overcooked steak is "WELL DONE".Just like turkey or pork chops or a nice veal chop, most of the enjoyment is in the juicy parts.I always thought that some one who orders a 20.00 piece of beef WELL DONE does not Really like to eat beef for WHATEVER reason. The steak people REALLY like beef of choice and it is reflected in the trained experts opinions ,THE CHEFS of the CULINARY SCHOOLS.Not to argue anyones rights to enjoy what they think they like, I believe they are better off with brisket!.If they would stop eating beef that WELL DONE, they would probably not eat it at all.Even when it comes to A HIGH QUALITY BURGER, WHAT TASTES BETTER, SIRLOIN BURGER COOKED RARE OR WELL DONE??Yes it is personal but it stems from somewhere,way in that persons past.I hated spinich as a kid, loveit now.By the way, By definition, I meant a steak that is dry and over done is not WELL DONE, it's ruined, ofcourse in my opinion.
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Beaf : Rare
Lamb : Medium or well done (depends on the cut).
Pork. Well done.
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Old 01-18-2010, 06:53 AM
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An old rule of the chefs at the best steak houses goes as follows:

There are three ways to cook steak - First way is rare or medium rare. Second way is medium. Third way is to ruin it.
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Old 01-18-2010, 07:57 AM
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I eat mine on the rare side of medium rare but I'll cook anyones steak just how they want it. We buy thicker cut 16oz steaks so I can have a good seer without over cooking.
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Burned but bleeding.
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