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Old 01-14-2010, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by LI Sound Grunt View Post
The coverage on TV is very hard to watch. I was struck by the number of buildings that were masonry based AND had rebar protruding from the rubble - I guess it wasn't in the right places? It seems unlikely that the correct type of equipment can get where needed to save anyone currently under debris. How sad.
I believe that the rebar is left sticking out of the tops of the buildings so that they can tie the next level to the first. At least that is what I have seen in other carribean countries and central america.

Although I wanted to watch the news last night, I agree it was graphic and I had to turn it off because I did not want my young children to watch it.
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I saw the Pat Robertson "statement" on Fox yesterday. Even they were ripping him pretty good. As stated above, what a senile old man. Fox (and other news networks) should not even show such garbage.

Haiti and the DR are extremely different in one respect. The DR has had a stable government that is not riddled with corruption

If you want to see a different side of Haiti, do a Google search for the Citadel in Haiti. It is a fort built on top of a mountain by a former ruler. I understand 20,000 people died while building this fort. The fort still stands and even has the cannonballs still stack where they were originally loaded. Pretty interesting place.
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ROOT CAUSES A and B in this link are a pretty quick summary of how they got to be so poor. I was always taught thta soli erosion from poor and/or greedy exploitation of the land was the main difference between Haiti and the DR - apparantly its more complicated - see Root Causes A and B below

http://www.webster.edu/~corbetre/hai...er/whypoor.htm

Old 01-14-2010, 07:10 AM
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With the source of it in Haiti they were hit hardest but have any of the surrounding sustained damage? Dominican Republic? Or was it completely isolated?
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Political corruption IMO is probably the single most powerful factor prohibiting prosperity in a community, be it a small town or a country. It repels the honest and the industrious leaving, well, the dishonest and the slovenly. Similar situations exist in some of our own cities.

I heard a caller with firsthand knowledge on, I believe it was, Neal Boortz's radio show yesterday say that the standard of living there is such that frequently there isn't enough fresh water to make concrete so they use salt water which may account for such widespread physical damage.

This is one of the saddest things I've ever seen. And yes, Pat Robertson should refrain from speaking so as not to help confirm his senility and christian elitism.
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Grunt - Very interesting article. Thanks for posting.

One thing I remember is the smell at night of the charcoal fires burning on the mountainsides. They had cut every single tree they could get their hands on. The charcoal was sold at a big market in Cap-Haitian.
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The situation in Haiti reminds me of a scene in Waterworld, where, "The Mariner" is offered a woman as they want The Mariner's "seed", for him to impregate some Chief's daughter.

He slowly turned and looked over the entire "atoll" and replied;

"You don't have anything, you're dying."

The situation in Haiti is grave.
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Haiti was colonised by the french, RD was colonised by the spanish,
there people were not as oppressed and there was not so much corruption,
look at Louisiana...

Easy to understand the french were and are the biggest exploiters in the World.

RD is still a hell island, just two levels up from Haiti, same hell different hole.
however RD people are poor but more happy and not as crooked.

Also RD is mostly white, Haiti is mostly black.
I'm just gonna stop...
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Overpopulation is, a worldwide problem. It is the root of the problem everywhere.

Give them, or anyone, or any country some food, some water, then what?

Short-term relief, if one can call it that, then onto the next story.

We sure do live some good azz lives.
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The major problem seems to be getting food/water to the people from the airport.

Can't they use helicoptors and do drops? They can bring in fuel and choppers easy enough.....What am I missing?
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Old 01-19-2010, 12:45 PM
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US troops secure Haiti presidential palace, hospital from yahoo news.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100119...20100119162436

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