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Old 01-12-2010, 03:59 AM
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Yesterday Mark McGwire came clean in admitting he used steriods while in baseball.

Been watching M&M all am and lots of opinions on whether he should make HOF or not and even whether his records should be taken out of the books

Just my opinion and while it is was not right but MLB to me turned their head by not banning steriods. I do not see where steriods could do anything for hand/eye corridination but can see where it possible could help the distance the ball goes.

Honestly I still do not see the big deal and probably a lot more players that used them but never were in the spot light so nobody cared

Think he will ever make HOFmy guess is no
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Roger Maris - 61 home runs in a single season - 1961

Bonds and McGwire are cheaters and their (drug aided) hits are no longer records til MLB starts another category. "Most HR's by cheaters".
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He should be kept out for being a frickin liar.

Like politics or any thing else in this country, you can do anything you want, lie about it, then later "just say you are sorry" (usually because you got caught) and all is forgiven.

WHERE IS THE CONSEQUENCE FOR YOUR ACTIONS???!!!!!!

F HIM AND ANYONE LIKE HIM!!!!!!!!
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I just can't help but think of Pete Rose at times like this. .......McGwire should be scrubbed from ALL records and therefore should NOT even be considered for HOF status!!!
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Is it me? All apologies are overrated! I Don't Like them! I don't like when my wife apologizes to me, why would I like McGwire apologizing.

Here's a Good apology:"I'm sorry honey, I didn't know I threw out your silverware, it was a mistake"

Here's a Bad apology: "I'm sorry honey, I messed up and pruned the neighbors wife" "it didn't even mean anything to me" "like throwing a hot dog into a bowl of warm water" <------------This apology is WORTHLESS!
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Is it me? All apologies are overrated!

Here's a Good apology:"I'm sorry honey, I didn't know I threw out your silverware, it was a mistake"

Here's a Bad apology: "I'm sorry honey, I messed up and pruned the neighbors wife" "it didn't even mean anything to me" "like throwing a hot dog into a bowl of warm water" <------------This apology is WORTHLESS!
Both apologies are worthless because neither can be undone from what has been done. But your point is understood.

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MLB officials are the ones that should be thrown under the bus..they had knowledge of roids being used and refused to discipline the players and when word got out to the public and gov., they didnt back up the players while they sit back and cash in as record attendance at ball parks watched baseballs fly out of the park.

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Personally, I think the steroid fiasco is a direct insult to Maris, Dimaggio, Williams, Jim Rice and the list goes on. Steroids definitely do impact performance - look at the numbers. Over the course of a season, how many long outs do hitters get? Extra power with the talent of the pros is just scary good.

I am glad he came clean, for what it is worth. It was a good time as he is looking to be a hitting coach with the Cards. Would he have come clean otherwise? Who knows.

I will still sleep well tonight either way.
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Originally Posted by tprice View Post
Yesterday Mark McGwire came clean in admitting he used steriods while in baseball.

Been watching M&M all am and lots of opinions on whether he should make HOF or not and even whether his records should be taken out of the books

Just my opinion and while it is was not right but MLB to me turned their head by not banning steriods. I do not see where steriods could do anything for hand/eye corridination but can see where it possible could help the distance the ball goes.

Honestly I still do not see the big deal and probably a lot more players that used them but never were in the spot light so nobody cared

Think he will ever make HOFmy guess is no
Came clean? How many years later? Here's the bottom line he LIED. Personally I don't give a rats ass about him or other players like him. What I care about is my son thought he was a great player, even greater after he met him and Mark McGwire signed his hat and a card for him. He now realizes the guy was full of shit and what ever records he holds are worthless.
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It would probably be quite startling to know how many pro athletes use performance enhancing drugs.
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Who even cares. MLB knew and protected these guys to pump up the almighty $. All pro sports are a crock of crap....you need to be fishing or anything but watching these fools.
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I do not see where steriods could do anything for hand/eye corridination but can see where it possible could help the distance the ball goes.
You know why so many MLB players risked so much to take steroids? BECAUSE THEY WORKED!

The way I understand steroids benefited baseball players was in bat speed, power and the ability recover quicker from injuries.

IMO, anyone that took steroids should not be eligible for the HOF.
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What pisses me off even more than them breaking the rules by using drugs is the cry baby act after they get caught. Jesus...be a man and come out and say you screwed up, and say it like a man, not like a kid that got caught with his hand in the cookie jar.

Let me guess the next step.......rehab right? Thats the answer any time a famous person gets caught doing something wrong. Like that will magically make all his family, friends, fans and employers forget all about it.

He can join Tiger in rehab and they can talk about how they got screwed over by the media. I'm sorry, I don't feel sorry for any of these sport figures. They chose that life and with it comes millions of dollars, public scrutiny and RULES.
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IMO, anyone that took steroids should not be eligible for the HOF.

In a perfect world, this would be the way to go, but how do you know who cheated and who didn't?

So far we can keep out
  • Giambi (wasn't going in anyway)
  • Pettitte (probably not going in anyway)
  • Manny (well, maybe)
  • Palmiero
  • Sosa
  • McGuire
  • Ortiz
and a few more, but we don't even have proof of Bonds and Clemens! You and I may believe they took some type of PED, but now were down to eliminated people that are "accused" of taking PED's.

I for one, am getting pretty bored with PED's. I'll guess they all took them until I decide otherwise. But I will keep watching.

I'm going out on a limb and I'm accusing Brett Favre..Just my opinion. Keep him out of the Hall.....

See the flaw in that theory??
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I'm just glad to hear that the 'roids weren't responsible for him hitting hundreds of monster home runs that went further than anyone's ever hit before....WHEW!

Yes I used them but only to recover from injuries. No, they didn't help me hit balls off of buildings, I'm just talented...

What a coward and a joke he (still) is imho.
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Originally Posted by Lively-Lines View Post
The way I understand steroids benefited baseball players was in bat speed, power and the ability recover quicker from injuries.
Bingo. Hitting is all about bat speed. Not only can you drive the ball, it allows you to wait on pitches and see them longer and better - critical in the majors.
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Originally Posted by Semper Fi-sh View Post
MLB officials are the ones that should be thrown under the bus..they had knowledge of roids being used and refused to discipline the players and when word got out to the public and gov., they didnt back up the players while they sit back and cash in as record attendance at ball parks watched baseballs fly out of the park.

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I agree
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Bingo. Hitting is all about bat speed. Not only can you drive the ball, it allows you to wait on pitches and see them longer and better - critical in the majors.
Exactly, that is why I always hate it when I hear some sports pundit say, "What's the big deal, its not like steroids are going to help you hit a 95mph fastball?" Umm...yeah...it does when you can get the bat around on a 95mph fastball that you thought was going to be a 80mph change up. Not to mention the pitches that you can power over the opposite field fence when you're late on it.
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