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Old 01-11-2010, 12:18 PM
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After years of "thinking about it", I signed up for a school which started this past Saturday and will be going for my 100T master. So far so good, but something came up in the class that I wanted to share with those of you who may be considering getting your ticket.

According to my instructor, there are some pretty well substantiated rumors out there that things are about to get much more complicated in terms of what it takes to get a license. Given how much has changed since 9/11, I don't doubt for a minute that things will get tougher with more and more crap thrown in (TWIC card, for example) to make it a royal pain in the butt. With that in mind, there may be no better time than the present to get your license.
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thanks Freebird, i've been hearing that for a while. My last renewal was about 2 years ago just before TWIC started. I think the biggest change then was i couldnt mail in the app and i needed to come in for fingerprints. at that time they told me I was getting in just under the wire before alot stricter process begins. my MSO is only about 10 miles away from me, so, otherwise it was relatively painless.

good luck with your ticket.
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Thanks salt, I did the online work for the TWIC a couple of months ago, but I haven't set up an appointment yet. I'm hoping they'll open an office closer by as the closest one now is about 100 miles away. Guess I'll bite the bullet and make the drive after I pass the test.
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when we all meet up to deliver bayside bert's 54, you can just pick up your ticket at the miami MSO
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Originally Posted by salt_shaker View Post
when we all meet up to deliver bayside bert's 54, you can just pick up your ticket at the miami MSO


Funny you should say that as I was wondering if it makes any difference where you set up an appointment to get your TWIC. I'll be in Lauderdale/Miami between Superbowl Sunday and MIBS next month, so that might just save me a trip.
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even funnier, well kinda funny. ill be in st aug area about the same time. not really planning on miami show though. TWIC for me was pretty simple in Boston, but it did take 2 weeks. total time spent in their office was under an hour, 2 visits. you probably know, but it was a different office than the MSO. i did the pre check in process about a year ago for it, havent heard how the process has been running lately...

btw, are you going for inland or near coastal?

wonder if he can get that 54 to miami by feb? LOL
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I'm going for the near coastal and also a towing endorsement.

I have a 55C Hatt to move to Chicago in the spring, and there's some question as to whether or not the canal off the river will be open. If not, we'll have to take the long route up the east coast. Maybe I could pick up that 54 Bert in Alabama, drive it to Clearwater where the Hatt is, and from there pull it behind the Hatt up to Maryland or wherever it was he wanted it moved to.
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hmmmm, this is getting interesting. good chance ill be in lauderdale mid april. and, i've done quite a few trips between Boston and Lauderdale on an '83 and '87 55C. Love that boat!

nice on the near coastal and towing. i have near coastal but not towing. some of my friends got that, but when i took it, it wasnt really offered, or suggested i guess. on the other hand some of them got inland and transferred out to chicago and couldnt sail on their tickets, lakes werent included on inland.
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Yeah, I like the 55C and have run a couple of them. I doubt I'll ever use the towing deal, but I figured I'd just get it all at one shot just to have it.
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yep, get whatever endorsements you can
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if you do everything online in advance, especially setting the appointment, you'll be in the TWIC office no more than 30 minutes. 2-3 weeks later they'll call you when the card's ready. no big deal...

it doesnt make any difference what TWIC office you use, but likely that's where the card will be
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Originally Posted by cgrand View Post
if you do everything online in advance, especially setting the appointment, you'll be in the TWIC office no more than 30 minutes. 2-3 weeks later they'll call you when the card's ready. no big deal...

it doesnt make any difference what TWIC office you use, but likely that's where the card will be
Yeah, I figured you'd have to go to the same office both times, but it was a thought. Looks like I'll just have to make a couple of round trips to Chattanooga unless something new opens up. I want to get all this paperwork through ASAP.
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Freebird, not trying to hijack your thread, but would there be any reason to get my captains license, being that we run a 25' center console, and in no way would I be running a charter, dive boat, ect? Just curious, looks like an interesting course
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Originally Posted by BakermanJr View Post
Freebird, not trying to hijack your thread, but would there be any reason to get my captains license, being that we run a 25' center console, and in no way would I be running a charter, dive boat, ect? Just curious, looks like an interesting course

I was wondering the same thing, if one has no intention of ever being "for hire" what are the incentives / reasons of getting a captains license?
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Jason, have a place in Key west now? Nice. I'm thinking of visiting the keys next month, one place I've never been. Got to the MIBS for that week...
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Originally Posted by Trayder View Post
I was wondering the same thing, if one has no intention of ever being "for hire" what are the incentives / reasons of getting a captains license?


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Go ahead and get your TWIC card ahead of time. That way you can send in all the other info once you pass the test at the course. Also, watch for all the minor details (every check in a box on your physical, putting n/a instead of leaving boxes blank) so you can eliminate back and forth when they review your application. Worldwide has a good checklist on their website: http://www.wegivethetest.com/pdfs/Ap...12-04-2009.pdf
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Originally Posted by BakermanJr View Post
Freebird, not trying to hijack your thread, but would there be any reason to get my captains license, being that we run a 25' center console, and in no way would I be running a charter, dive boat, ect? Just curious, looks like an interesting course
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I was wondering the same thing, if one has no intention of ever being "for hire" what are the incentives / reasons of getting a captains license?
There are several in my class who said they are going for their license just to have it. I personally don't get that, but to each his own. There are easier and less expensive ways to learn everything that's being taught in this class, but I do have plans which would require a license.

In fact, there are those who will argue that having a license is a bad thing in that you can be held to a higher degree of accountability in the event of an accident. I personally don't buy into that notion, but several do.
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Birdman- yes, check your PM's

Freeebird- Tx that is what I thought and the higher level of accountability outweighs higher learning (for me anyway) way too many lawyers out there. I have also been told, no first hand info here, that those with captains licences will have higher insurance premiums due to their liability of being able to be "for hire". Do you know if there is any truth to this? Common sense would say one with a captains license would be more knowledgeable thus less of a risk but common sense seems to take a backseat.
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