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Old 08-27-2009, 06:42 AM
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I need a new home pc. I have a desktop now and would like to go to a laptop. I was looking at the new Mac's but I'm not sure if they are worth the money. I only use my pc to go online, download photos from my camera and to download music.

Desktop or laptop?
Are mac's worth the money?
What are some good choices?
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Old 08-27-2009, 07:03 AM
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You will spend a lot less money on a PC.
Mac users tend to keep their machines a lot longer than PC users do.
There are still no viruses and very little malware on the Mac side.
Downloading pics from a camera is much easier on a Mac. iPhoto is excellent.
Free, open-source Office suite software is readily available.
If you have never used Macs, the unlearning curve can be troublesome to some.
The latest Mac OS is scheduled to be released tomorrow.
Go to an Apple store and play with a Mac for a few hours. Bring your camera and cable (or your card and a reader) if you like.

You pays your money and you takes your choice.

I'll be buying a high-end iMac desktop and a low-end MacBook pretty soon, and replace my still-running-great G5 iMacs.
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Old 08-27-2009, 07:24 AM
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As rockhall says - if your computing needs are that light you may find you like the Mac OS a lot better. There is a good bit of adjustment involved, it is a fairly different experience but once you get used to it, most people like it.

The mac laptops themselves are very nice pieces of hardware. One other plus for the mac is that if you decide you just don't like it, you can run windows on them instead, or you can use software to actually let you run your windows/mac apps side by side in the mac environment. I know lots of people (both novices and computing professionals) who have done both.

The next personal laptop I buy will likely be apple hardware running windows.

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I switched to an IMac about 3 years ago, frustrated with windows and the related malware problems. It's been great and I highly recommend the Mac. It just quietly does what it's supposed to do and that's what I want from a computer. Turn it on and concentrate on whatever task at hand without having to babysit an emotional software package.
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Old 08-27-2009, 08:47 AM
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for what youre going to be doing and if you want it to pretty much 'just work', mac.
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Old 08-27-2009, 11:20 AM
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I'll go to the apple store and take a look.

Thanks for the info.
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Old 08-27-2009, 11:42 AM
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+1 more for the mac. I just switched to a Macbook Pro a few month ago, and I have been very happy with it. There is a bit of an "unlearning curve", as was stated above. You have to forget everything you learned using Windows, and just remember that every operation on a Mac is performed in the most obviously simple manner.
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We have used Macs since 1984. I just wanted a computer that would do what I wanted it to do without having to know how to program a damn computer. Mac was, and still is, it. We have a 20" Imac and a Macbook at our house and would only consider using a PC when some ba$t@rd programs a presentation in Powerpoint that won't run on a Mac because they don't have new enough software.

If you take a Mac and a PC and compare capabilities, programs, speed and ease of use, the Mac isn't really that much more expensive. They have so much built-in that you have to pay extra for, the costs come out fairly close, I think.
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Old 08-27-2009, 03:23 PM
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i would also recommend the mac, but i have yet to toy around with windows 7 OS. the one thing to be aware of is if you are planning to draft documents concurrently in MS Office for Windows and MS office for Mac there are still some compatibility barriers (and not minor ones). Rather misleading advertising on the part of Microsoft IMHO.
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Old 08-27-2009, 03:28 PM
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My Mac friends love them never had one myself. I really don't understand how people with pc's have such problems with malware and the like. I've never had a significant problem and there are two teenagers using this machine. I just let the software take care of things and I don't open suspect emails and I don't click on every link. I'm cheap so I always go pc.
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I've gotta Mac at home which ALWAYS works, but we have to use PC's at the shop for proprietary software. If Bill Gates was aspiring for mediocrity, he hit the nail on the head.
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A PC. Millions of business users can't be wrong.

Anyone remember that thread where someone was trying to update a Garmin plotter using a Mac?
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I purchased my first mac, a refurbished 15" macbook pro around 1-1/2 years ago. Love it and it is now my main computer, although we own a Dell desktop and I have a Dell laptop for work. Very small learning curve with the mac and it is very stable. I will probably purchase another refurbish when the time comes to upgrade.
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Old 08-27-2009, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by gashogg View Post


I only use my pc to go online, download photos from my camera and to download music.

Desktop or laptop?
Are mac's worth the money?
What are some good choices?

A couple of things to know:

1 - both Apple and MicroSoft will be releasing new operating systems in Sept/Oct. If you decide to buy a PC before then I suggest you only get one with MS Vista. Vista sucks but the upgrade to far superior Windows 7 in the next few weeks is virtually painless. Upgrading from Win Xp is going to be a huge pain in the ass. Nothing yet from Apple on what's involved in upgrade to Snow Leopard but Apple's upgrades are usually a simple, follow the steps process with few if any problems.

2 - there is not 5-cents difference between a PC and an Apple, from the side of user applications. Conventional wisdom says unless you have a compelling reason to change from Apple to PC (or from PC to Apple), don't. You are already familiar with the how your machine works, there just isn't enough difference between the two system at the user level to justify the pain of the learning curve to make a switch.

There are some specialized applications that are only available for a PC but you aren't there, so Apple should be a consideration for you.

If you are not doing heavy computing (and it doesn't look like you are) I suggest a laptop, be it PC or Apple. It costs more, but not much more these days. If you have a lot of peripheral hardware you'll want a docking station because it has expanded interface -- more ports.

I recommend getting embedded wi-fi in whatever flavor you desire (802.11a/b/g/n/x). You may want to consider embedded Bluetooth if you think you will be using a Bluetooth wifi mouse. I have Bluetooth in my laptop, in 3-years I have never used it. I use a Logitech wi-fi mouse that has it's own receiver, uses a button that gets plugged into a USB port and just lives there its whole life. Costs about $70, best mouse ever made.

I also recommend stepping up to the newer technology of a solid state hard drive as opposed to a spinning platter.

For quality, no one builds a machine as well or as robust as Lenovo. Fuji is a close second. Those two standout above all of the rest in build quality. Below that it is a mixed bag, they're all pretty much the same. I know it hurts the Apple-holics to read it, but Apple's product is of mediocre build quality when compared to the rest.

For product service, both Apple and Lenovo are heads and shoulder's above the pack, both provide outstanding service.
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Old 08-27-2009, 06:49 PM
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Mac... hands down....
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Old 08-28-2009, 05:55 AM
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PC. Mac supposed ease of use advantage and invulnerability to malware is a myth.

You will also spend a lot of time trying to fit a square peg in a round whole with a mac when it comes to apps and drivers.

The business world runs on PC's. Macs are a waste of time there.
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Old 08-28-2009, 05:56 AM
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Great info

Thanks a lot.
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Old 08-28-2009, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Seacat FL View Post
PC. Mac supposed ease of use advantage and invulnerability to malware is a myth.

You will also spend a lot of time trying to fit a square peg in a round whole with a mac when it comes to apps and drivers.

The business world runs on PC's. Macs are a waste of time there.
I cana't remember the last time I had to install a driver. If you purchase, let's say, a new printer, it will come with a CD or DVD so it can work on a PC. Got a Mac? Just plug it in, usually.

As for the "business world." The only machines I ever had on my desk at work were... Macs. The big reason there are so many PCs out there now is that it would be impossible to change the installed base easily, quickly or without massive re-education of employees. It has little to do with what machine/OS is better, and everything to do with what is simply too expensive to change.

My own grown kids now use their PCs at work (because they have to), and Macs at home/portable (because they want to). There are no tech support people at home.

Go ahead. Plug your camera into a PC, and then a Mac. Report back on the experience.

Maybe your Zune works better on a PC, I'll give you that.

The new Mac OS is out today. Nothing to wait for.
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Old 08-28-2009, 03:14 PM
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I would get a PC, you can get one so inexpensively that if you dont like it you could throw it in the trash and hardly miss it. Can't say that about a mac.

Given your stated usage, any current PC or mac will suffice so why spend 2x as much?
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Old 08-28-2009, 03:27 PM
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I wouldn't say a Mac is a bad computer, but most folks are using PCs. Most software is written for PCs. For editing video or music, Mac may be better. For business or most other applications, PC has a much bigger and better selection of software.

It's not any different than VHS vs. Betamax. Betamax was arguably better than VHS but VHS cornered the market and put Betamax under. Macintosh has been able to stay alive with Ipods, phones, etc.

Choose a Mac and you're "swimming against the current".

Like I posted above, Anyone remember that thread where someone was trying to update a Garmin plotter using a Mac?
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