Notices

Death in the Drive Thru

Old 08-01-2009, 05:54 AM
  #1  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Out west
Posts: 3,297
Default Death in the Drive Thru

If someone hassle's you in the drive through lane at McDonalds, make sure you show 'em who's boss!

http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2..._killing91162/
dssmith is offline  
Old 08-01-2009, 06:16 AM
  #2  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 3,077
Default

Crazy over a let's say $6.00 meal and a small wait now you could do life and think about what you did to the kids dad for the rest of your life. On the other side what was he thinking to punch him he sure never thought about the consequences that might happen.You hate to say it. I got to be a macho macho man
TimW Texas is offline  
Old 08-01-2009, 07:32 AM
  #3  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Edgewater, NJ
Posts: 4,706
Default

Maybe it wouldn't have happened if McD's served their god dang breakfast past 11.
DarthBaiter is offline  
Old 08-01-2009, 07:43 AM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location:
Posts: 714
Default

the guy who was shot assaulted the shooter. the shooter had been assaulted in the past and has a CWP to carry a gun. sounds like he was defending himself. 3 kids don't have a father now because daddy was a hot head and messed with the wrong guy.
Idiot is offline  
Old 08-01-2009, 08:13 AM
  #5  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,406
Default

Originally Posted by Idiot View Post
the guy who was shot assaulted the shooter. the shooter had been assaulted in the past and has a CWP to carry a gun. sounds like he was defending himself. 3 kids don't have a father now because daddy was a hot head and messed with the wrong guy.

I'm going to politely disagree. The shooter started the whole thing by yelling (or whatever exchange was made) at the guy to get out of the drive-thru lane. Excuse me but what the hell made him think it was his place to order someone out of the drive-thru lane? The drive-thru traffic is controlled by the employees... if they need you to move to the waiting spot because your food is not ready then they tell you to do so. It is NOT the place of the other customers to police the drive-thru traffic.

Just what kind of temper do you have to have to get THAT angry that you start trouble in a drive-thru? As to the "beating" the shooter suffered in a previous incident... well that alone should have made him be more controlled and cautious about who he picks a fight with.

This whole thing would not have happened had the shooter never opened his trap in the first place. IMO someone who loses his temper and can't wait patiently for a gawd-awful burger from McDonalds has no business carrying a firearm.

Having a CCW does NOT give you the right to go around starting trouble and then just shooting someone when they confront you about it. I suspect the shooter also knew he was in the wrong as he fled the scene afterward.... if he was sure he'd used deadly force appropriately there would have been no need to leave.

I'm a card carrying member of the NRA and a strong advocate for our right to own and carry firearms. I myself carry a firearm, but idiots like the shooter in this story are doing nothing but giving the gun grabbers reasons to keep trying to take our guns away.
Gulf Coast Girl is offline  
Old 08-01-2009, 08:35 AM
  #6  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,927
Default

WOW....................How about just being nice. A life and 2 families destroyed. Cut the BS bravado. If only one of them had the good sense to show a little humility and common sense this would not have happened. Not what a firearm is for. I feel really bad for them both and their families........
54bullwinkle is offline  
Old 08-01-2009, 08:45 AM
  #7  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location:
Posts: 714
Default

Originally Posted by Gulf Coast Girl View Post
I'm going to politely disagree. The shooter started the whole thing by yelling (or whatever exchange was made) at the guy to get out of the drive-thru lane. Excuse me but what the hell made him think it was his place to order someone out of the drive-thru lane? The drive-thru traffic is controlled by the employees... if they need you to move to the waiting spot because your food is not ready then they tell you to do so. It is NOT the place of the other customers to police the drive-thru traffic.

Just what kind of temper do you have to have to get THAT angry that you start trouble in a drive-thru? As to the "beating" the shooter suffered in a previous incident... well that alone should have made him be more controlled and cautious about who he picks a fight with.

This whole thing would not have happened had the shooter never opened his trap in the first place. IMO someone who loses his temper and can't wait patiently for a gawd-awful burger from McDonalds has no business carrying a firearm.

Having a CCW does NOT give you the right to go around starting trouble and then just shooting someone when they confront you about it. I suspect the shooter also knew he was in the wrong as he fled the scene afterward.... if he was sure he'd used deadly force appropriately there would have been no need to leave.

I'm a card carrying member of the NRA and a strong advocate for our right to own and carry firearms. I myself carry a firearm, but idiots like the shooter in this story are doing nothing but giving the gun grabbers reasons to keep trying to take our guns away.
let's take the gun out of the equation for a second. lets say one guy yells at the other guy in the drive thru. the guy who got yelled at punches the guy doing the yelling. the guy doing the yelling falls down and cracks his head open on the concrete and dies.

now the kids still dont have a daddy because he is in prison for manslaughter.

the dad was a hot head and escalated what only would have been a verbal confrontation. I have been in that situation before, and the first thing i think about is my kids. i'm not gonna get into a fist fight that could turn deadly over someone yelling at me when i'm driving. you never know when some dumbass with a gun is gonna fight back.

i'm just playing devil's advocate here because the guy that did the shooting is going to receive all the blame, when it is clear that the guy who got killed could have avoided it by being a reasonable person.
Idiot is offline  
Old 08-01-2009, 08:57 AM
  #8  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,406
Default

Originally Posted by Idiot View Post
i'm just playing devil's advocate here because the guy that did the shooting is going to receive all the blame, when it is clear that the guy who got killed could have avoided it by being a reasonable person.
I'd say they both could have used better judgment. However I still believe had the hot-head never started the incident then the other guy never would have punched him and he never would have had a need to defend himself. Again... why did he feel it was up to him to police the drive-tru traffic? IMO only an arrogant hot-head would think s/he is entitled to do this.

I get irritated at the grocery store when I'm in line at the 20 or less checkout and the moron in front of me is checking out with 50 items.... but I certainly don't mouth off to that person.... it's not my place... I don't own the isle or the store. If the cashier doesn't address the situation then so be it. It's not the end of the world that I have to wait a little longer.
Gulf Coast Girl is offline  
Old 08-01-2009, 09:07 AM
  #9  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Turks and Caicos Island
Posts: 7,537
Default

Anything supporting the guy with the gun is a smokescreen. Bottom line, he shot and killed an unarmed man.

I don't really give a rats what he THINKS his excuse was, he didn't have one. He should fry for it.

And I come from a long line of responsible gun owners, and got my first firearm as a christmas present when I was four years old. I have owned them ever since.

Guys like this one are the reason we are losing our rights to own firearms. There is a responsibility involved here.
Gringo is offline  
Old 08-01-2009, 09:20 AM
  #10  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Long Island,NY
Posts: 11,964
Default

I always was suspicious of those who were too lazy or too much of a hurry to walk the 50 feet into the store where the lines are usually much quicker.
SeaJay is offline  
Old 08-01-2009, 09:25 AM
  #11  
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 48
Default

let me guess, the shooters license plate was "DFENSE"
khobombed is offline  
Old 08-01-2009, 10:45 AM
  #12  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
fish factory's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 25,453
Default

The dead dude parks in the way. Someone asks him to move. The dead dude walks back to shooters car, begins to punch shooter and, in fact, gets shot.

Mistakes made by dead 'un include:

Parks in way
Refuses to acknowledge his inability to understand basic traffic flow
Finally moves his car
Goes outta his way to confront traffic HE was blocking
Sticks fist into car (at this point driver has no idea what's next)

Is this what happened?

It's sad the man got shot. But really, he went outta his way to invite the shooter.
fish factory is offline  
Old 08-01-2009, 11:09 AM
  #13  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 8,782
Default

Originally Posted by khobombed View Post
let me guess, the shooters license plate was "DFENSE"







Yeah, but Michael Douglas did his shooting at a Happy Burger, not McD's!



Just remember this story the next time some NIMROD ties up the launch ramp...
ABoater is offline  
Old 08-01-2009, 11:19 AM
  #14  
Senior MemberCaptains Club MemberPLEDGER
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Naples, FL
Posts: 3,914
Default

Ludicrous is offline  
Old 08-01-2009, 11:22 AM
  #15  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: East Central Florida
Posts: 7,292
Default

Would have been better to sling a cup of that famous McD's extra hot coffee in his face!
Seacat FL is offline  
Old 08-01-2009, 12:12 PM
  #16  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Turks and Caicos Island
Posts: 7,537
Default

I would hope he pays a heavy price for this, over and above what killing someone is going to do to his life, anyway. He is going to find out it's a bit different from the movies. And he can't change it back.

But We don't need people who shoot other people to death over a punch in the nose. He should be locked away for a long, long time.
Gringo is offline  
Old 08-01-2009, 12:37 PM
  #17  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 3,596
Default

Originally Posted by Ludicrous View Post
Did you know that was actually the "second" set of golden arches they put up?
Ranger88 is offline  
Old 08-01-2009, 01:09 PM
  #18  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Turks and Caicos Island
Posts: 7,537
Default

did you read "Fries of our Fathers"?
Gringo is offline  
Old 08-01-2009, 01:28 PM
  #19  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: On The Tenna Sea
Posts: 13,387
Default

Originally Posted by Gulf Coast Girl View Post
I'm going to politely disagree. The shooter started the whole thing by yelling (or whatever exchange was made) at the guy to get out of the drive-thru lane. Excuse me but what the hell made him think it was his place to order someone out of the drive-thru lane? The drive-thru traffic is controlled by the employees... if they need you to move to the waiting spot because your food is not ready then they tell you to do so. It is NOT the place of the other customers to police the drive-thru traffic.

Just what kind of temper do you have to have to get THAT angry that you start trouble in a drive-thru? As to the "beating" the shooter suffered in a previous incident... well that alone should have made him be more controlled and cautious about who he picks a fight with.

This whole thing would not have happened had the shooter never opened his trap in the first place. IMO someone who loses his temper and can't wait patiently for a gawd-awful burger from McDonalds has no business carrying a firearm.

Having a CCW does NOT give you the right to go around starting trouble and then just shooting someone when they confront you about it. I suspect the shooter also knew he was in the wrong as he fled the scene afterward.... if he was sure he'd used deadly force appropriately there would have been no need to leave.

I'm a card carrying member of the NRA and a strong advocate for our right to own and carry firearms. I myself carry a firearm, but idiots like the shooter in this story are doing nothing but giving the gun grabbers reasons to keep trying to take our guns away.
I know you're fairly new to the state of Florida, but if this happened where you live, it would pretty much be a slam-dunk for the shooter. Fearing for your life is all the excuse you need there to use lethal force.

What is it with all these whacko's and McDonalds?
Freeebird is offline  
Old 08-01-2009, 01:33 PM
  #20  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Turks and Caicos Island
Posts: 7,537
Default

ACK!!! a ghost!!!
Gringo is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread