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Old 07-24-2009, 07:05 PM
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Ok I'm about to smash this wireless router. I can never get a wireless router to work for more than a few months. I constantly have to unplug and replug the power wire to get back on line.

I have a cable modem and a Linksys woreless router. There is always internet connection at the router. But I run the signal through the wireless router with an ethernet cable. The router exists so I can use my laptop around the house and for the VOD for Direct TV.

Its getting to about 3 times a day that I have to reset the router to get back on the internet. I am buying 3-4 of these pieses of junk a year.

Any ideas?
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Old 07-24-2009, 07:21 PM
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I had the EXACT same problem with a linksys wireless router a few years back. It was NOT the lease time setting either (for those that would suggest that). It happened all of the sudden and progressively got worse.

I went out and downloaded the latest software in case there was something there that was causing it to happen... NO LUCK.... still got progressively worse until I couldn't even go a few hours without resetting the router.

I finally gave up and got a NetGear wireless router and have had it running fine for 3 years. I'm NOT advocating NetGear as I suspect I will eventually have the same problem with this one as the Linksys. It's hardware... it's "home user" hardware... they make their money by making sure we need to buy again and again. Like computer hard drives, cell phones, boat engines and the like... it's not a matter of IF... it's a matter of WHEN it's going to fail.

I work in the IT industry and I've seen my share of unbelievably shoddy design and engineering in computer hardware. I'm afraid you may have to suck it up and buy new.

P.S. You do have access restricted by BOTH MAC and WEP right?
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I have the Linksys also. I installed it on the second home PC. It only lasted a couple months, and then the SAME exact issue you both stated

I will try NetGear
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Old 07-24-2009, 07:39 PM
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Good I feel better now. I thought I was doing something wrong.

Gulf Coast Girl......"You do have access restricted by BOTH MAC and WEP right?"

I don't know what that means.
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Originally Posted by ScarabChris View Post
Good I feel better now. I thought I was doing something wrong.

Gulf Coast Girl......"You do have access restricted by BOTH MAC and WEP right?"

I don't know what that means.
MAC stands for Media Access Control. It means nothing more than the address assigned to your Network Card. The number is unique. There is a setting in your wireless router that you can enter the addresses of the network cards you want to be able to access your wireless router. (This is an added layer of security on top of WEP to help keep neighbors and others nearby from using your service). Don’t know how to find your MAC address? Go to START, then RUN then type in CMD in the little box.... when the DOS dialogue opens type in IPCONFIG/ALL (just as I typed it) at the prompt. The numbers returned under PHYSICAL ADDRESS (under the wireless adapter group) is your MAC address. These instructions are for windows only… I don’t know shit about Macintosh computers.

WEP stands for Wired Equivelant Privacy and it is a way to require all computers trying to access your router to pass in a security key to gain access. The WEP key will be generated by your router when you enable it. Unlike the MAC, which is entered in the Router Control, WEP is entered on the machines trying to access the wireless network. You can either enter the key directly or use the “word friendly” equivalent (which is SUPPOSE to translate to the key). Personally I’ve NEVER had luck using the word/letters generated…. I’ve always had to enter the key itself.

It used to be that you could just use WEP alone…. but over time it was found to be “crackable” and allow intruders in. This is why I suggest the additional layer of MAC control. Of course if someone wants in that badly… they’ll find a way…. but it doesn’t hurt to have the dual layer of security working for you. I don’t have anything worth hacking in for …. but I still use both to ensure any armchair IT neighbors with just enough knowledge to get into trouble can’t get into my wireless router.
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Old 07-24-2009, 08:13 PM
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Gotcha, thanks. I have my network unsecured because for some stupid reason I couldn't get my laptop to connect when entering the key. So I got frustrated and left it open.

I'm not that worried though, you really need to be within my property to get a signal. and even then its spotty at best.
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The right Linksys Routers combined with Free Linux Router OS's from DD-WRT are the way to go.

This setup rocks

Be sure to use WPA2/Personal AES security and a strong pass phrase.

Wep and Mac restriction can be cracked in less than 3 minutes
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Wep and Mac restriction can be cracked in less than 3 minutes
ROFL... prove it!

Perhaps it can.... but not by the average person. I wouldn't worry about WEP & MAC being cracked unless I was managing a business network.. in which case I'd have a world of other security measures in place.

If a hacker wants my pictures and work crap he/she can have it.... all my private stuff I keep on an encrypted jump drive only used when needed.
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Originally Posted by Gulf Coast Girl View Post
ROFL... prove it!

Perhaps it can.... but not by the average person. I wouldn't worry about WEP & MAC being cracked unless I was managing a business network.. in which case I'd have a world of other security measures in place.

If a hacker wants my pictures and work crap he/she can have it.... all my private stuff I keep on an encrypted jump drive only used when needed.
Cool just don't buy anything over the net.

Oh and don't hand out crappy advice about network security to those that may not know as much as you do.
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Well... since you are being shitty about it....

Originally Posted by shadco View Post
Cool just don't buy anything over the net..
Don't tell me what to do

Originally Posted by shadco View Post
Oh and don't hand out crappy advice about network security to those that may not know as much as you do.
Crappy advice? ROFL... I didn't hand out anything that isn't home user 101. There is nothing wrong with what I posted and I stand buy it. You want to rant and rave about it being crappy... fine... but that is nothing more than just your opinion... and like assholes................well YOU know!
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read up on aircrack-ng, then check any number of wireless packet trace tools.

WiFi 2 certification requires WPA2 at minimum.

There is a reason
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here are a few good ideas
http://www.watchingthenet.com/how-to...e-service.html
http://linksys.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/...p?p_faqid=1040

I have DSL and after I set up my modem to emulate the PPoP pc connection and set up my modem to pass info straight thru from the router I have issues.
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I am in the IT bidness, linksys, since cisco bought them has gone to hell. Throw it away and buy a netgear. I have the rangemax - WNDR3300.

I stream movies, internet and file sharing all over my house no problems at all.
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D-link brand.

10 years, no issues.

No security issues (but I have secret gubmint stuff you can't access)


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I am in the IT bidness, linksys, since cisco bought them has gone to hell. Throw it away and buy a netgear. I have the rangemax - WNDR3300.

I stream movies, internet and file sharing all over my house no problems at all.
This is what I did to fix my problem. The Comcast guy recommended it when he was here troubleshooting. I think he said that is what they use....
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opinion... and like assholes................well YOU know!
gasp! she said


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say what you want but the Belkin N1 wireless router has served me well and has a lifetime warranty.
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Old 07-25-2009, 12:19 PM
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I have thrown away a few D-Link and Belkin routers too.

Strange it seems to be working ok today. I think all these computers are junk. There is always something I have to fix or configure. But then again we are in a time where we can't live without them.

Once this Linksys takes a shit...and it will.....I'll try the Net Gear.
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