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Old 07-20-2009, 07:56 AM
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Here are a few Question for the pool experts.
BTW The pool I set up this w/e is a 24' x52" above grnd.

How long do you run the filter pump as there is no timer on it.
I put 1 ea. 1 '' chlorine tab in a floater the 1st day "seem to still be in there"
What chemicals do I need to buy.
How offen do you apply chlorine tabs
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Get a test kit. Or go by smell - you should just barely smell it. Varies greatly with your locale. After testing a few times you will see a pattern and can test less often. There are thousandds of pool chemicals but I only use chlorine. If it seems to be using too much I add backing soda - or you can tets for acidity also .All this other shock and stuff is basically chlorine.

You will need lots more in GA but here I can get by with a 5 to 10 of those tabs you are using (in a floating dispenser every week unless its real hot and sunny. you will ned at least double or triple that.

And, you are right - there are guys here that have huge pools and real Hi Tech systems and many people get real anal over this. (just like our boats) Enjoy it!
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I have a 18x48 above ground that I am just trying to figure out.

Some learnings.

Clorine wont work properly unless the PH is on the mark. Adjust the PH up/down first, then sanitize if needed, then shock if needed, then clorine tabs (10+/- per week) to maintain.

Lotsa rain may & you may need to readjust PH & shock. Lotta kids in pool, you may need to shock every other week or so.

I run the filter every other day for 10-12 hours. More if I am using it alot.
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Grunt you said go buy smell Are you talking about chlorine smell?

The chlorine tab are 1" tab so maybe I need to put 1 tab in every day.
What if the recent tabs have not dissolved?
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I have a 18x48 above ground that I am just trying to figure out.

Some learnings.

Clorine wont work properly unless the PH is on the mark. Adjust the PH up/down first, then sanitize if needed, then shock if needed, then clorine tabs (10+/- per week) to maintain.

Lotsa rain may & you may need to readjust PH & shock. Lotta kids in pool, you may need to shock every other week or so.

I run the filter every other day for 10-12 hours. More if I am using it alot.
What balances the PH Chlorine??
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How do you do a shock treatment?

How do you know its safe to swim after chlorining?
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Take Calcium Hypochlorite and put about 1 pound per 10,000 gallons. It will be safe to swim in about 8 to 10 hours. So shock at night after you are finished using the pool and run the filter the whole time. DO NOT ad chlorine shock to the pool add it through the skimmer. You will bleach the liner if you do it any other way. I have found that liquid chlorine to be too harsh for a liner pool and will lessen the life time of the liner. There are three types of chlorine trichloro, dichloro and calcium hypo. It is good to shock with a chlorine that you are not using. Your tabs should be trichloro, your granule that you use to for minor adjustments is dichloro. Calcium hypo is also a granular but works great at breaking down the chloramines (sweat and urine) and frees up the other chlorine to work. I know that ph is very important but just as important and ignored is total alkalinity. This is what prevents ph bounce. In a liner pool you need to be between 80 and 120 ppm. You use sodium bi-carbonate to get your ppm up to the correct range. I go through more of this chemical than soda ash. The other thing I would check is cyanuric acid. Take a water sample to you local pool place and have them check for this acid. This acid is what keeps the sun from reacting with your chlorine and gets you longer life from your tablets.
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I have an 18x33 5ft depth. You really need to start with a water test. These are free at your local pool supply store. Take a clean jar of water to them from 18' below the surface of the water. They will give you a procedure to get the water set. Do this and you will save money and time on chemicals. There is a proper procedure that I think starts with adjusting alkalinity, then pH, then hardness then chlorine. And you dont dump it all in at once, 2lbs of this then 4 hrs later 2 more lbs, the 4 hours later 3 lbs of that, wait overnight, etc. Once you get the clorine set use a stabilizer especially in the heat or under heavy swim loads....Once it is set initially you are golden. No need to shock it unless the chlorine level drops so low that 3 - 3" tabs in the strainer box won't bring it up to normal test level.

Maintenance routine is based on your $5 test kit. Adjust pH and Chlorine based on test results every 3 to 5 days. Get a return side type automatic vac/cleaner like to Polaris Turtle and you will be amazed how easy it can be. Also get an auto timer for the filter. They have the 3 prong type at the pool store. 2 prong at Lowe'st. Both the cleaner and timer are worth their weight in gold. Run the filter 4 hours in the mid morning. Like 9 AM to 1 PM then 2 hours before dusk like 7 to 9. You won't have any trouble with it.

BTW - anyone else notice the price of chlorine has gone thru the roof? Got any good sources online, etc?
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BTW - anyone else notice the price of chlorine has gone thru the roof? Got any good sources online, etc?
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Thanks guys for the replies They are alot
of help.
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Like others have said, get a test kit.
Also get a measuring cup. My pool 18' round is approx 7500 gallons. The labels on the chemicals are generally set up for 10K capacity pools. I made a cheat sheet, so that if I have to adjust the PH or Alk, I can get the dose fairly correct. It will be trial and error at first. Don't get discouraged.

In the past I used the tablets, and now use granular chlorine, I have noticed that the pool is alot clearer, and that I am using less PH and Alk adjusters. I do not put the chlorine in the skimmer either, since the next stop is the filter.

Use the chemicals sparingly, and a little at a time (especially the adjusters), and the water should stay clear.

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One more Question.I have shocked the pool now I am seeing
some little water bug swimming arroud in there will the shock
treatment kill these?
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Originally Posted by summertime View Post
One more Question.I have shocked the pool now I am seeing
some little water bug swimming arroud in there will the shock
treatment kill these?
No, use a hand skimmer to get him out.
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Originally Posted by summertime View Post
One more Question.I have shocked the pool now I am seeing
some little water bug swimming arroud in there will the shock
treatment kill these?
Might take a couple days but they will eventually disappear after a good shocking.
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I'm another that uses chlorine only, but don't consider me an expert. I based my chemical decisions on the fact that I don't trust the computer system at my local supply store. I'm too cynical, I can't help but think its tied to inventory!

I know, that's a crappy way to go through life, but my wife used to bring home $150 in chemicals all the time when all I needed was better attention to my filter and chlorine.

I haven't put a chemical in for 2 years now, but I do think my chlorine doesn't work for too long, seems to disapear.

Like I said, I'm no expert.

Chlorine does kill the water bugs, and they bite a like a bastard.
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I'm another that uses chlorine only, but don't consider me an expert. I based my chemical decisions on the fact that I don't trust the computer system at my local supply store. I'm too cynical, I can't help but think its tied to inventory!

I know, that's a crappy way to go through life, but my wife used to bring home $150 in chemicals all the time when all I needed was better attention to my filter and chlorine.

I haven't put a chemical in for 2 years now, but I do think my chlorine doesn't work for too long, seems to disapear.

Like I said, I'm no expert.

Chlorine does kill the water bugs, and they bite a like a bastard.
I think you're being practical, not cynical...I take my water to the pool store for the free test and evaluation, then go right over to wally world for the cheap chemicals..
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Originally Posted by Mike Boehler View Post
I'm another that uses chlorine only, but don't consider me an expert. I based my chemical decisions on the fact that I don't trust the computer system at my local supply store. I'm too cynical, I can't help but think its tied to inventory!

I know, that's a crappy way to go through life, but my wife used to bring home $150 in chemicals all the time when all I needed was better attention to my filter and chlorine.

I haven't put a chemical in for 2 years now, but I do think my chlorine doesn't work for too long, seems to disapear.

Like I said, I'm no expert.

Chlorine does kill the water bugs, and they bite a like a bastard.
and they bite like a basturd
hope the shock will get them
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Thanks for the info Does anyone have a pic of
a deck built around the above grnd.

Found out the hard way about the chlorine tabs too never sniff
the jug when opened
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Originally Posted by summertime View Post
Thanks for the info Does anyone have a pic of
a deck built around the above grnd.

Found out the hard way about the chlorine tabs too never sniff
the jug when opened

What do you want to know?
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What do you want to know?
Man that looks good .Just some ideas on how much
deck I may need an how some of you built yours.
great pi

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