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Ray Zor 05-29-2009 01:36 PM

Wakeup call for me. Jobless.
 
Never thought it would happen. Been employed with a major electronics company as a regional software sales engineer. My group was spread very thin already and we had discussed the possibility of layoffs a few months ago. Since the group I was in brought so much value/sell-through to the table we never thought it would happen. Well, 50% of my group was cut with obviously no thought to personnel being effected. Veteren reps cut, newbies not cut. No rhyme or reason. Really sucks. Sorry for the negativity but this really blows....BIGTIME:mad:

tommyr904 05-29-2009 03:11 PM

I feel your pain,I have been laid off for 3 months now.glad I do have some side work to pay the bills.I do get to fish more now but fishing for money sux

bamaboy473 05-29-2009 03:15 PM

Ray, I'm so sorry for that nasty surprise you got. Wish I knew somebody in the business around here that I could hook you up with.

Hope you catch a 40 pound snapper opening day to take some of the sting off!

Cracker 05-29-2009 04:11 PM

That does Suck, hopefully things will turn around quickly for You, Tommy and the rest with financial woes...

jagermeister 05-29-2009 04:14 PM

I'm in the 3 month club myself..

Tommy in FLL 05-29-2009 05:44 PM

I feel your pain too.

I fly jets for Fedex now; There are serious rumors of furlough, but so far I am safe.

I flew for Express One International between 1996 and 2001; Suddenly I lost a job that paid me $100k/per year plus. My reaction? I spent a bunch of time with my parents, my woman, did charity work out the ass, and I started to write a book. I never finished it, and it is drivel anyway, but listen:

I was 35 years old in 2001, and I had plenty of savings. I used the time to learn to paint, I tried to write, and I did ALL SORTS of maintenance on my Porsche 928. The long and short: This layoff was temporary: I was laid off in January, and found a job in June. This six month period? This was what my girl called my "second childhood". I did so many things I had wanted to do so bad! I even took the hydrofoil from Key West to Fort Jefferson. I had them bring my kayak, and I used this tiny 9 foot boat to go to Loggerhead Key, which is two miles away over open water.

The point: DUDE! If you don't use this temporary layoff to go to the places you want to go to, and do the things you've always wanted to do...then you are just cutting off your life!

Good luck. But please...please...PLEASE! Make use of this time to have some fun! You're going to get another job. But you are NOT going to get another life~

T

Nicmegmatt 05-29-2009 05:54 PM

I hope you guys get back on your feet real soon!:thumbsup:

tommyr904 05-29-2009 06:01 PM

Luckly I seen it coming and dumped everything I owed money on.just sux thinking I may have to go and find a job thats not there.been with the same guy for 18 years

centuarynick 05-29-2009 06:01 PM

im almost into my 1st month .... all i have been doing is trying to find another autmotive service job. since then i have sent out 20 resumes and spent alot of time boating and fishing ...........god i need another beer

pyettaw 05-29-2009 06:23 PM

I know it sucks getting laid off, but when one door closes another one opens. Usually the door that opens is better than the one closed.

I was a software security administrator when I was laid off in 2001 when the tech bubble burst. The worst part is that at the time I got into the IT world you didn't need any type of degree. All you needed was to know something about computers and a certificate or two didn't hurt. During that time over 1500 people were laid off in my area from the same company. Companies required a 4 year degreee and experience. I had the experience but not the degree. All I was offered was some $10 an hour jobs. I had to turn them down cause it didn't pay the bills. Took some time off and now I own my own business.

People told me that something better will come along but I didn't beleive them. I felt like I was just in a dark deep hole spinning deeper and deeper, but with some hard work and tanacity I am doing great and you will too.

Hydro 05-29-2009 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by pyettaw (Post 2341974)
I know it sucks getting laid off, but when one door closes another one opens. Usually the door that opens is better than the one closed.

I was a software security administrator when I was laid off in 2001 when the tech bubble burst. The worst part is that at the time I got into the IT world you didn't need any type of degree. All you needed was to know something about computers and a certificate or two didn't hurt. During that time over 1500 people were laid off in my area from the same company. Companies required a 4 year degreee and experience. I had the experience but not the degree. All I was offered was some $10 an hour jobs. I had to turn them down cause it didn't pay the bills. Took some time off and now I own my own business.

People told me that something better will come along but I didn't beleive them. I felt like I was just in a dark deep hole spinning deeper and deeper, but with some hard work and tanacity I am doing great and you will too.

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Ray Zor 05-29-2009 07:05 PM

Thanks for the comments folks.
I am going to take some time off. 2-3 months at least. Have few cold ones and get out on the water as soon as this damn wind dies down. Went out Wednesday and spent the morning bouncing around over very muddy water in the bay. Did manage a couple of bayou specks. Of course, gotta hit Disney, SeaWorld w/my 7 YO.
making a trip to San Antonio to see family as well.
My wife and I have always agreed on the lifestyle choice we made.
We intentionally have chosen to live below our means and it has rewarded us greatly during this dry spell.
Basically everything we have is paid off. I am still driving my 1998 F150. Been a great truck. Gonna finish the resto on my '68 Triumph Bonneville. Crank is in the shop getting turned.

The job I had was a very nice corporate job very good income/benefits package. I did get a 3 month severence package including insurance coverage for entire family so not really sweating it currently. I shouldn't have to touch savings at all as I should be back at it within 3 months.
Just feels real wierd not working. I can tell you now, I am going to have one helluva time trying to retire in 20 years..............

captbone 05-29-2009 07:09 PM

Ray Zor

I am in a similar position.

Where does everyone find their leads for upper level positions? Headhunters? If so where do you find them?

I have not been in the job market for a while.

I have heard about the ladders.com but dont know where else to turn.

Ray Zor 05-29-2009 07:13 PM

Capt Bone,
I have been in the business for over 25 years (All I've done. I am 46).
My position wasn't really upper level management but a very specialized field that required extensive knowledge covering a very wide range of products and how they would fit/interface with a businesses current software workflow.
I know ALOT of people in the industry I am in who work for other corporations/software companies so I will be relying on that line.
Not sure what avenues other than the one you listed or Monster.com
Career builder,ect....

bamaboy473 05-29-2009 08:08 PM

Ray,
Send me your email addy. My son in BHM is an IT headhunter...or manages an office that does that kind of work.

Let's see if you guys can fill some slots...

Wolakrab 05-31-2009 06:31 AM

Sorry to hear of your predicament, Ray Zor. I have many customers and some co-workers in my industry in exactly this same position. Our sales company-wide are down 25%.....I am worried....especially after reading what has happened with you. Our sales team has been untouched so far.....since we are at the point, there would be no one to get the business if we weren't here. At least that is what I thought, until I read your post. No one is immune, after all.
Enjoy the down time while you can, and make good use of it. Best of luck.

StingerII 05-31-2009 05:14 PM

I'm use to this turmoil and it's never stopped since I got into the IT field in the late 90's. I've worked for five different "employers" and haven't moved my cube....

Earlier this year the company I was working for, was bought out by another rather large manufacturer of computer goods and services and the CEO said that our brand showed profits but "not enough" and it was "Not acceptable" so they decided to cut massive amounts of jobs, solely in the United States and PR, of course Malyasia and India hasn't been touched, since you get 10 for a dollar over there.

I got my pay cut via email (nice and personal, riiiiiight) we've lost people on our team and my team right now is five total and we support 6000 clients. And just last week we were TOLD that we HAVE to use 8 days of our Vacation at Christmas because the bean counters determined this is a great cost savings measure since most other places are closed too! (Real smart Poindexter, I work in the Utilities sector, they don't close!)

At least the CEO was a real generous guy and while I only took a 10% mandatory pay cut, he stepped up to the plate and took a massive 20% pay cut from his 890K base salary. That did not effect his 30+ Million a year in bonus money, 45,000.00 a year in meal allowances or his full use of the Corp jet for private use.

And I'm sure the hatchet is right above my head, it always is... And considering the way my life has been going recently I half expect it.. I mean, I just came home from work on Friday April the 24th and found my dad had passed away during the day and I found him when I came home from work, and it was unexpected. So why not throw more my way.

*shrugs* One thing I've always known, Life isn't fair... And it's never going to change.

I wish you the best!

Nicmegmatt 05-31-2009 05:24 PM

Sorry to hear about your Dad Stinger.:( You can get new jobs but you cant get new dads.

Wolakrab 05-31-2009 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by StingerII (Post 2344077)
At least the CEO was a real generous guy and while I only took a 10% mandatory pay cut, he stepped up to the plate and took a massive 20% pay cut from his 890K base salary. That did not effect his 30+ Million a year in bonus money, 45,000.00 a year in meal allowances or his full use of the Corp jet for private use.

A 20% pay cut on his base is only lip service. Sounds like a real generous guy.:roll
$30M in bonus, over $123/day in meal allowance and full use of the corporate jet? Sounds like this guy used to work for either GM, Ford, or Chrysler......

Joe 05-31-2009 05:45 PM

I'm looking for a Windows and a Unix syadmin if you know any.


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