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Old 04-14-2009, 01:08 PM
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I know this question has been asked before, so excuse me for asking it again. I have a carry permit from Pennsylvania, which does work in Florida where I have a condo. When I get a boat in a couple of years I was intending to carry my Glock and AR-15 on board for protection when my girl friend & I (we are both 54 yrs old) go offshore. It is 45 miles to the west side of the gulf stream where I am in Florida, so help is quite far away. What are the concealed carry laws in Florida in Federal waters. What am I allowed to do? I have a shoulder holster for the Glock, and I'd keep the AR-15 loaded and in the cabin. Your help is greatly appreciated. Don't want to break any laws. But don't want to go offshore, particulalry at night without a firearm. Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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If you're in international waters, you're good to go. State and federal laws will apply once you're inside.
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You should check www.handgunlaw.us for what you need to know about Florida law which will obviously apply while you're on the hard and in coastal waters.

It's not the same as PA law, so do yourself this favor.

Offshore you can do literally do whatever you want, but I'd leave the shoulder holster at home...
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IMOP The best would be a 12 Ga Pump. Everyone knows that sound. Any thing else could get you in trouble one way or another, An AR15 might be nice but would be considered a military weapon. A pistol is not welcome at many port of calls period. That would be a problem if you went to dock some place besides the USA. If all you plan is to go and come from Fla that would be different. But everyone knows that there are many places to visit by boat. Temption may overcome you.
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Freebird, I believe that International waters don't start until 200 miles off the US coast. State of Florida are 3 miles off the East coast and 9 or 12 miles off the Gulf coast.

I have a 12 guage Browning but the AR-1a5 has a 30 round clip. In fact I have five 30-round clips. I may take the shotgun too. A pistol on the hip or in a shoulder holster is quick and right there for a surprise. Nothing to go and get. And it's got a 17-round clip (9mm).
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Davepen, A friend of mine, who is a NYC retire detective, gave me that website. I am a resident of Penna, and I already knew they honored the PA CC permit. When I retire down in Florida, I'll get a Florida permit. Florida's website was very helpful. Penna is soo lame. They don't require a training class on the laws, they don't have anything on ANY website, including the Attorney General's website (He's a Republican and good A.G) but I hope he's reading this for a suggestion to help the public.

I was wondering, however, once I move into Federal waters with a boat, are there Federal laws that would prevent me from keeping a loaded firearm concealed on my boat if I have a CC permit.? What if I am boarded by the Coasties? What do I do? What are the quirky things I should know??? Don't want ot get arrested for an oversight on my part.


Thanks for your help buddy.
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International waters are 3nm off the east coast and 9nm off the west coast. The 200nm line refers to the exclusive economic zone which is for fishing natural resources.
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BottomPicker, I just wanted to make sure you were aware of the laws on the hard.

Offshore is a little trickier.

When in doubt, consult a lawyer. No advice you receive here is going to help you in court.

You have to clarify what you are calling "Federal" waters. This is very important.

Where I live (and carry) "Federal Waters" are areas of the rivers controlled by the Army Corps of Engineers. This designation extends to a very small part of the navigable rivers here, usually Locks and Dams.

I suspect your thinking of something else entirely, and using the term "Federal" to describe it.

As long as you comply with FL law while in FL and don't venture to places like the Bahamas or Bermuda, you'll be fine. You should still lose the shoulder holster, though.
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As long as you comply with FL law while in FL and don't venture to places like the Bahamas or Bermuda, you'll be fine. You should still lose the shoulder holster, though.[/quote]


You are allowed firearms aboard your vessel in the Bahamas. Must be declared when clearing customs and kept under lock and key.
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If you are boarded by law enforcement for inspection or otherwise you will probably be asked if you have weapons on board. Tell them yes if you do, and where they are and you will be ok. There is no problem having a weapon on board while you are out fishing. If going to the Bahamas as said before, declare it , and very important declare how many rounds of ammo you have. Be exact, it is very important. This is how I have been doing it. You can talk to the Marine patrol people to be brought up to date.

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VAC is right on. Been there done that been boarded and searched in the Bahamas by the USCG.
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Not to be an ass, but can I skeet shoot of the back of my boat as long as I'm football field of other boat/property? In NJ....
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Originally Posted by BottomPicker View Post
Freebird, I believe that International waters don't start until 200 miles off the US coast.
That would mean we own Cuba and several other islands. Just messing with you.
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Originally Posted by hhi angler View Post
VAC is right on. Been there done that been boarded and searched in the Bahamas by the USCG.
What authority does the USCG have in the Bahamas?
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The USCG will have a Bahamian CG member in the boarding party which gives the right to the USCG to search a US flagged vessel. We were sailing with a Canadian flagged boat which thay passed up. The right of search is given to the govt. of the Bahamas when you enter the country.
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Originally Posted by hhi angler View Post
The USCG will have a Bahamian CG member in the boarding party which gives the right to the USCG to search a US flagged vessel. We were sailing with a Canadian flagged boat which thay passed up. The right of search is given to the govt. of the Bahamas when you enter the country.
I understand the authority that the Bahamas CG has to search a vessel in its waters but was thrown off by the "US" CG.

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