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Old 03-29-2009, 06:05 AM
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Wife and I went out look at BMW 700 series cars yesterday. Just to make sure thats what she wanted we went to a lexus dealer and a mercedes dealer as well to look at the same size cars. 2006 / 2008 were the years we were looking at but because we were there we looked at new models as well. I was VERY disspointed in mercedes and lexus. While they were nice cars they seemed kind of dated and mercedes just didn't measure up the way I remember. Below is how I ranked them.

1. BMW - Very roomy and nice / Modern and classy in and out / Nice details / Outside car had nice lines / Even the older cars still had style

2. Lexus - Very roomy and plush / Very nice interior but seemed a little dated when compaired to the BMW / Outside was nice but dated / Older cars were dated

3. Mercedes - Very roomy / Inerior was boring / New exterior had very nice lines but the older cars were very dated.

I mean, don't take me wrong but when your going to spend that kind of money, I expected a lot more from lexus and mercedes.
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MB started downhill around 1995 when the factory reduced post-production inspection times by 60%...and more plastic was introduced to the interiors. The S-class from that era was the last of the "real" MBs, IMO.
BMW really broke the mold with their new body style. Lexus will alway be a luxury car devoid of soul.
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My brother-in-law in PA has deep pockets and he has owned 2 7-series BMWs and now has an Audi A8. I like the A8 more than his previous BMWs.

The European brands all have serious maintenance issues compared to the Lexus but if you get a CPO car with an extended warranty most things should be covered.
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you owe it to yourself to check out the new Genesis from Hyundai. Sweet and dirt cheap, tha's if the bling dont mean a thing.

I'm going from my MB E 63 into one, soon as my lease expires.
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Lexus Blows them away in reliability. You could not give me a used Mercedes, I think BMW makes a nice vehicle but if you plan on keeping it it will need some expensive maintenance.
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Originally Posted by Rival1 View Post
Lexus Blows them away in reliability. You could not give me a used Mercedes, I think BMW makes a nice vehicle but if you plan on keeping it it will need some expensive maintenance.
This was true 15 or 20 years ago but not today. BMW has one of the lowest maintenance costs in the industry. Automobile magazine publishes a guide for vehicle ownership cost. Assuming 15,000 miles per year........5 year maintenance cost on a 2008 Lexus GS460 is $2,533......5 year maintenance on a 2008 BMW 7 Series is $1,957. Difference in reliability is negligable also with a slight edge to Lexus.
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I think we may look at Audi and Volvoe as well today. The challenge we have is looking at used it seems that most of the upper ranks changed interior design and exterior design in 2008/2009 models that we can't afford. If i'm buying used to save some serious cash, we need to find something that will still hold some style for a couple of years. I will never buy a new car again...
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Forogt, we want to look at the Porche Cayenne as well...
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I looked at the Porche Cayenne and the BMW X-5 for my wife. I pulled the trigger on the X and we are very happy with it. I went with the v-8 and for a heavy rig she is quick and handles great. BMW has a 5 year free maintenance and the cpo is the way to go.
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well....duh, what is a CPO?
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Certified pre owned. Basically a extended warranty on all major parts. To much cash for me to buy new.... D$$ good deals out there!
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We have a 5yr & 7yr old kids so we need a comfortable 5 seater.
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Originally Posted by chillywon View Post
Certified pre owned. Basically a extended warranty on all major parts.
Thanks for the heads up on CPO cars; that's a new one to me.
The admiral gets N cars and I buy UPOS ones.
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Lexus Blows them away in reliability. You could not give me a used Mercedes, I think BMW makes a nice vehicle but if you plan on keeping it it will need some expensive maintenance.
252000 miles on my 2000 540I Sport 4500 spent in maintenance including brakes but not tires.

Still runs like a scalded dog and I like it as much as I did the day it was new.
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Originally Posted by shadco View Post
252000 miles on my 2000 540I Sport 4500 spent in maintenance including brakes but not tires.

Still runs like a scalded dog and I like it as much as I did the day it was new.
Sounds Good but I dont think $4500 is anything to sneeze at. But I guess all of these cars have High maintenance costs. BMW is the best looking of all these rides.

Have you considered an Infinity M45?
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After my last 2 Benz's, I'll NEVER buy another one, unless it's a vintage car. Expensive JUNK. I switched to Audi several years ago and the Admiral chose a Q7 last year. I love mine and she loves hers. No complaints at all...

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Originally Posted by shadco View Post
252000 miles on my 2000 540I Sport 4500 spent in maintenance including brakes but not tires.

Still runs like a scalded dog and I like it as much as I did the day it was new.
That 540 sport (assume it has the 6 spd manual in it ??) is IMHO one of the best all-around sedans EVER built. Not as finicky or expensive as the M5 of that era, but for 99% of what you'll ever do in it, every bit as much "usefull" power as the M.
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I have owned several Mercedes and currently own my last one until something really changes. Their quality is inexcusable. I currently own an S55 which is a delight to drive, but like about everything Benz has made since the mid 90's, the electronic gremlins are always there. It has never left me stuck, but today I turned the ignition on and the wipers cycled once. That might be OK, but the car has not seen rain in a long time. Worse, as times have gotten tough, they have gotten a lot worse about dealing with things under warranty. Lastly, their resale is not good.

Lexus makes cars that are very reliable and comfortable, but they don't make you grin. BMW's are biased toward the performance side, but I can't deal with Chris Bangle's styling. I suspect my next sedan will say Audi on the title.
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You can't go wrong with 7 series BMW, thats one hell of a car. I just got a loaded 328 for the wife and even that little car rides great. Plus the free maintenance that BMW offeres is nice. We like the car so much that we already decided that we are getting a 5 series next.

That said I sure as hell wouldn't mind a Benz either. By buddy just got an E 350 and its real nice. But if you are looking at a 7 series BMW then you are looking at cars in the $90K range so I think an S class Benz would be a better fit.

Lexus? They seem like solid cars but for $70-$90K I don't want a Japanese car.
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STAY AWAY FROM MB!!!! worst POS on four wheels. My old man has a '06 ML 500, has nothing but problems with it and regrets buying it. did I mention its overpriced as well... rather buy a Hundai.

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