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Old 03-27-2009, 05:41 AM
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Question jack russell terriers???

does anyone have any experience with jack russell terriers?

i think we're gonna end up getting one...The Admiral has her mind set on it and there will be no changing her mind without a compelling reason.

i've got no problem with them being a little bit spazy and overly energetic...we've got plenty of land and spend lots of time outside, so the dog will be exercised.

however, i'm concerned about aggression/possessiveness. we've got 2 kids and although they're well beyond the toddler age (many JRT breeders won't even sell to families with little kids), i'm somewhat concerned about the dog becoming too attached to The Admiral or me since we'll be doing the majority of the training. i've heard and read that some of these dogs become owner-possessive and will show aggression towards anyone trying to usurp their bond with the owner.

also, i've heard/read that JRTs, particularly females, can be dog-aggressive. we have just about the bestest black lab mix ever! we got her from lab rescue and she's an absolute sweetheart. she's very high-energy for a lab (our vet think's she's mixed with some sort of terrier or a greyhound -- she's only about 30 lbs, very lean and quick as lightining), so i think she'll make a great playmate and "mentor" for the JRT. i just don't want another dog that is going to try to bully her around.

any thoughts?
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I had one when I was a kid in NYC...damn dog attacked every stranger, every dog on the block...she had no boundaries, and no fear...believe it or not, we had to put a muzzle on her when in public...otherwise, I love those dogs...for my peace of mind, a family friendly, protective, loyal, and just a great looking dog recommendation would be a Gordon Setter...you just don't see them evrywhere like you do Goldens, Labs, etc...and they are great fun...


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Old 03-27-2009, 06:31 AM
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hj92,
I have a 14+ yo JRT. Freckles is a great dog and still very spry for her age. You have apparently done your research and all things you said describe my dog except about being protective of the master. I have not noted any of that from Freckles. They are very smart dogs.

Since you have the room to let the dog run, it will be happy. They do need a lot of exercise. When my dog was young, I lived on a plantation in SC. I had a golf cart that would run 13mph and would take Freckles out for a run with it. I had an invisible fence around the homesite and Freckles would stay on the cart until we cleared the fence. When I told her to GO, she would jump from the cart and start hunting a circle around the cart.

Freckles is very agressive to other dogs and has nearly been killed a couple of times by attacking big dogs. Six years ago my new wife moved in with her daughters and a poodle that weighed about the same as Freckles (12#'s). I thought we were going to have a problems but after a few minor skirmeshes, Freckles established her dominance and they got along fine. I think that you won't have a problem between the LAB and JRT. I am assuming you are getting a puppy.

My dog is snappy towards people but has never bitten anyone. If there are small children I keep the dog away from them.

I would not recommend these dogs for apartment dwellers, couch potatoes, or people with small children.

They shed alot too.

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Old 03-27-2009, 06:36 AM
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Hyper dog.

Go to puppyfinder.com it has info on all dog breeds and is very informative. You can look up any breed and see their traits.
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I agree with all of the above. Some of the cutest and smartest dogs on the planet. Also some of the toughest and nastiest. You do not want to be a little furry animal near a JRT. They were bred for hunting, specifically fox, but will chase anything with four legs on the ground.

Keep them engaged through exercise and act consistently toward them, always acting as their pack leader and their dispostion will mellow. They love to play (don't let them win), are easy to train, but can become bored if left alone too long and then the problems like digging and chewing come out. They will quickly size up people and dogs that they do not like and will let you, and them, know that fact.

Jacks are very much pack dogs and constantly need to know their place in the pecking order of the pack. If not made clear they will challenge for leadership but as long as they know where they stand they are comfortable in their role. I found this particularly true as it relates to children, who need to be taught how to maintain their place above the dog in the pack and in so doing maintain control and dominance over the dog.

They are quite lovable and very entertaining. If your lifestyle and commitment allows you to have a Jack, or maybe more accurately, a Jack to own you, then you are very lucky indeed.

Check out http://www.jrtca.com/






And please, do not name the dog "Jack"
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Try an American Rat Terrier. Same size, look as a JRT but not as hyperactive. Great all around dogs.
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Happy Jack........I hail from Catonsville....on the Magothy frequently...used to keep boat at Fairwinds....now Fells Point.....I have two JRT's.......your research is pretty accurate.......don't worry about your lab...most likely the will become buddies.....I had the same scenario and the lab and the JRT got along fine after a short break in period......Sounds like you have the perfect set up....keep them well exercised and they are really fun dogs......big dogs in a small body....
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My opinion of JRTs is tainted by the one one of my neighbors has. It barks CONSTANTLY!!!!!! Major pain in the rear, but it has a lot to do with them neglecting the dog. These dogs tend to be very high energy, but relatively smart. Make sure you have the time to spend with the dog to train it and exercise it. Good luck!
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My neighbor has two two. They are two little clowns, brothers. They are both very nice, one likes to play ball the other could care less. They get along great with my 12 year old lab.
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well it's good to hear some positive experiences. most of the stuff online, including that jrtca website, paint a worst-case scenario. apparently, there are lots of rescue JRTs because people buy them for their kids thinking they're going to get "eddie" or "wishbone"...but, of course, they want to spend no time to train the dogs and end up with a pint-sized monster...so, many of the websites really push hard on the negative attributes.

i'm trying to go in with eyes wide open and be sure that i can train a JRT to be a family dog...specifically, my family dog...which includes kids and another dog. the breeder i'm talking to says she does breed for confirmation, but she also breeds for temperment and has not had any problems with dogs exhibiting "unusually high" aggression. and while she does breed show and trial dogs, most of her dogs go to families. she breeds only 2 litters per year (1 per bitch) and the litter is socialized to people in a family environment within her house...not out in a kennel or barn away from people. the litter was just born this week. right now we have first pick after the breeder and the stud.

i've always gone with female dogs because of temperment, but it does sound like JRTs experience more same-sex aggression...and my lab is a female. anyone think that i would really increase my chances for success by picking a male?


edit: oh yeah...and i won't be naming the dog jack. haha. and my username has nothing to with these dogs either. "happy jack wasn't old, but he was a man..."
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Do everyone a favor and get something else. They are irritating little pieces of cr@p.
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We have a female JRT that we rescued from the ASPCA. She was terribly abused and for the first 6 months we couldn't get our hands on her, very agressive to our other dog until they finally sorted it out. She lived under our bed and would come out to eat and do her business in the yard. After 6 months she finally would come downstairs and hop up on the couch at night and sleep. As long as I didn't touch her she was OK, but if I touched her she went back upstairs and under the bed. Now how in hell does someone abuse and animal this bad, if you don't want it someone will take it. She finally came around and now she is my little velcro dog, always attached to us and the most loving dog I've ever seen. She is a hunter, and a digger, but first and foremost a clown. She has an unlimited supply of kisses for you and loves to sleep touching you. My advice is to look at the parents of the puppies and see if they are well behaved or just plain spastic. If well behaved I'd go for it, and one of the most important things is that the breeders are going to interact with the puppies so the human bond is developed early on. If you have cats, I wouldn't leave them in the same room alone and the JRT's are extremely smart and the hunting instinct could take over and you would be minus a cat. The Jacks jaws are like vises, and just try holding one when they don't want to be held, the short legs and muscles will win every time. I would again adopt the one we have, even knowing the problems we encountered, because it has been so worth it, great little ball of fire the JRT.
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Talk about a dog on crack, that is a Jack Russell
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also forgot to ask about using the invisible fence: aubrey you mentioned you used one with your JRT. we also have friends that use it with theirs and have no problems with the dog bolting through the fence after squirrels and such. anyone else have experience using them with their JRTs?

we are surrounded by nature...tons of varmits, including rabbits and foxes (btw, it's interesting to watch the cycle of thier populations over the years...more foxes, less rabbits...then after a year or two, more rabbits, less foxes). my lab does not roam (although she will chase the ducks and geese down on the waterfront side) and we have trained her to stay away from the road that fronts our property. however, my plan would be to install an invisible fence...probably about a 1000 foot perimeter around the house. we've already got a doggie door in the back of the garage that the lab uses to get out of the weather...would that set up work OK for a JRT?
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Rescue a mutt - you'll never regret it, and they come in all shapes and sizes!
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D110 - we've rescued mutts, including our current lab mix. and you're right, they're usually great dogs.

in this case, however, The Admiral has honed in on a specific breed: the JRT. so far, everything i've read about them says they have to be socialized to the owners particular environment very early on to maximize their success. even a 6 month old rescue JRT would likely not be suitable for my situation because of our kids and our other dog.

i'm just trying to collect as many data points as i can to give us the best chance of having success with the breed.
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Happyjack - I completely understand... My wife and I do quite a bit of volunteer work with animal shelters so I just had to throw the mutt thing out there (not to say we don't see purebreds in the shelters.) I have a few friends with Jacks... always liked them because they are a big dog in a small dog's body - endless energy and very smart. Best of luck!
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Mine is 19, mostly deaf and some loss of sight, and she has finally calmed down over the past 5 years. Got her as a puppy for my son when he was about 8. Never snapped at a kid. She roamed the neighborhood at our first house, and the neighborhood kids loved her, but she trained to an invisible fence very quickly. They do shed. Try not to buy one from a puppy mill.
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no puppy mill...we've researched breeders and have identified one within a 2 hour or so drive. the litter was born earlier this week...the breeder said we can visit the pups at six weeks (after they have all of their shots).

the breeder has already claimed the first female. the stud will take either first male or second female. there is one deposit ahead of us that wants a male. so we could have either 2nd or 3rd male or female depending on the stud's choice. the breeder told us that all 3 choices ahead of us will be looking for show dog confirmation. we will select, to the extent that is possible in evaluating an 8-week old pup, on temperment.
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They are great companions and great pets, when properly trained. If you are willing to make the commitment you will have the best pet of your life. If not, please find a different breed.

I have a number of books on the breed - if you get serious about pursuing Jacks, you are welcome to borrow them. PM me if interested.

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