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Old 03-05-2009, 08:21 AM
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Default Under (kitchen) cabinet lighting suggestions?

I'm on the goal line and looking to punch it in with my travertine backsplash project I've been working on over the past 4 weekends. I'll post pictures when it's completed.

Now I am looking into under cabinet lighting- what do you recommend? I've done web searches and seen everything from LED (pucks, strips), Halogen, Xenon, Fluorescent, and wireless LED (don't want these).

What are the pro's and cons? What's my best bet? And where is the best place to purchase them?
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I had halogen in my old kitchen (home depot, wired type), they threw a lot of light but got extremely hot and actually started buring a book that was on top of something about 2-3" under the light. Nice bright light though, and with a dimmer could also lower brightness. Made a good espresso cup warmer for the cups on top of the machine! I have no experience with your other options but I'm at the same point as you in my recently revovated kitchen.
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I guess it really depends on what you want the lighting for?

For accent lighting I would go with rope lighting (LED). It is cheap, easy to install, uses very little hydro and it's not big and bulky, therefore little chance of seeing the fixture if you are sitting down at the kitchen table like you could with a fluorescent light fixture.
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I'm on the goal line and looking to punch it in with my travertine backsplash project I've been working on over the past 4 weekends. I'll post pictures when it's completed.

Now I am looking into under cabinet lighting- what do you recommend? I've done web searches and seen everything from LED (pucks, strips), Halogen, Xenon, Fluorescent, and wireless LED (don't want these).

What are the pro's and cons? What's my best bet? And where is the best place to purchase them?
Are you going to use them just for accent lighting or are they going to be used for helping with cooking/prep work?
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If you thought more about this before tiling I would have suggested some 12v lights that run off a transformer you would bury in a 4 square box behind a dishwasher, fridge or stove. The wire is is clipped up under the light bar rail in the front of the cabinet. Each light is a small peice of metal that holds 2 bulbs that can be plugged in anywhere along the wire. The whole thing is on a dimmer also. It is infinately adjustable and bulbs can be moved anytime. What do you have for wires whipped out?
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Rope lighting no LED leaves a nice glow if thats what your looking for...
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Good info.

I get a lot of light from what was installed when the house was built so my primary need would be for accent lighting, although it would be nice to have them on a dimmer so that if I needed extra light for food prep it would be available.

It's fairly new construction so I will not need to hack up the walls (at least I don't think I'll need to) - there is a gap between all the cabinets which can seen when you look under the cabinet, this goes vertical the length of the cabinet so it will be easy to mount a light (any kind) under the cabinet and run the wires up through this gap and then on top (out of sight) of the cabinets to tie them in together. There is also an electrical outlet installed inside one of the top cabinets which I plan to use to power the lights.

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All types of led lighting I have seen for undercabinet use have been too white / harsh in color to compliment anything but an ultra modern style.

Skip the flourescent - see above.

Rope types give the best and most even accent look.

Xenon puck types work best for task lighting. Play with the front to back mounting distance to get the look you want (accent the backsplash or work light on the counter or eliminate shadow lines from overhead lights etc.) before you final mount them.

Any undercabinet lighting should be on a dimmer. Of course the time to figure all this out is when the walls are open but it is still possible to hide most of the wiring with a little thaught and creativity. The touch sensor dimmer systems seemed like a great idea and really impressed the customers but after replacing the fourth failed set, I went back to a standard dimmer switch mounted in a work box for the last 5 or 6 kitchens.

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go to environmental lights (search it)

I bought my self adhesive LED strips from them.

Low voltage. Comes in warm white and bright white. Provides as much light as you want using their dimming transformer.

Just go to their site and read up.
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Joe, I had a conversation with my sparkie just yesterday about LED lighting. He had just left a seminar on the newer options available. Today, right now, LED wins hands down. They are still working on the BR 30 and 38 bulbs used in recessed lighting but strip LED lighting is there. He's getting me some MR-16 LED replacement bulbs to try. I only need about 1000 of them.

He explained to me the problem with LED lighting is the heat generated. LED's just don't like heat.
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Firfly,

these are the ones you want to use. DO NOT use ANY lights from Lowes or Home Depot! They are not designed to be used in that manner.

These lights don't get hot, as they are low voltage, and the transormer is about half the size as a pack of smokes.

I use these all the time and they come in different finishes. A set of 6 w/ transformer will run about $140.00 +/-

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I just had a lighting professional(one who has been to a real school for lighting) out to my house and for the under counter and other kitchen lights, he recommended florescent for the under counter, I ask him why not led or other stuff and he just said they are ok but the best bang for the buck in still florescent. I had another guy out he did not know much, but said, halogen was the best and would not get hot. Yes, the first guy guy got my business.
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Originally Posted by FireFly View Post
Good info. There is also an electrical outlet installed inside one of the top cabinets which I plan to use to power the lights.
Yikes, I guess the inspector didn't catch that one.
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If I don't have over 2500 Halogen lamps in the 3 homes I manage I don't have a one. The one thing I know for fact is everyone of those bulbs get very hot. Low voltage/Line voltage, it doesn't matter.
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Originally Posted by Mist-Rest View Post
If I don't have over 2500 Halogen lamps in the 3 homes I manage I don't have a one. The one thing I know for fact is everyone of those bulbs get very hot. Low voltage/Line voltage, it doesn't matter.
2500! do you manage the Griswalds Christmas light display or something?

I agree, don't see how halogen would not get very warm.
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Yikes, I guess the inspector didn't catch that one.
Whats wrong with that Garrett???

Every Microwave I've ever seen (mounted to the wall) had a receptacle in the cabinet above it.

29north, what grade did he get in his "school" ?
Flourescent lights suck for under cab's. Or at least 98% of my clients think so.

Mist-Rest, the lights I show get warm, but not hot. Whoever put your "2500" in may have done something wrong.

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What Just1more said.

Installed some like his last year, no heat, low voltage, easy install.
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You guys just don't understand what I do for a living. These are VERY big single family homes. I don't make stuff up. It's the real deal.
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Mist-Rest,
This is a big single family one I finished in 05, the dome on top is a 3 meter Dome w/ a 24" telescope in it. I skinned the bottom of the cabinets and have halo pucks on a dimmer like justonemore has above.
http://www.dillknobobservatory.net/

Firefly, make sure you seal that travertine ( twice ).

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Originally Posted by 4/0 View Post
Mist-Rest,
This is a big single family one I finished in 05, the dome on top is a 3 meter Dome w/ a 24" telescope in it. I skinned the bottom of the cabinets and have halo pucks on a dimmer like justonemore has above.
http://www.dillknobobservatory.net/

Firefly, make sure you seal that travertine ( twice ).

Butch
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