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Old 02-07-2009, 12:07 PM
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Not too much of a surprise

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...x.html?eref=T1
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Capt- I was actually a bit suprised to hear this. Although I have never liked the guy I do respect him as a player...or at least did until I heard this. How did they come to hear about this if it happened 6 years ago? 2003 he tested positive right?
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That headline made my day!!!! go REDSOX!!!!
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Old 02-07-2009, 04:10 PM
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Capt- I was actually a bit suprised to hear this. Although I have never liked the guy I do respect him as a player...or at least did until I heard this. How did they come to hear about this if it happened 6 years ago? 2003 he tested positive right?

MLB tested for roids in 03. 104 players tested positive. His name got leaked out. Probably something to do with the Barry Bonds investigation.
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Old 02-07-2009, 06:30 PM
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A-hole
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The A hole is just that.

I'm glad he was opened.


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I wonder what the other 103 players are thinking about now.
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Old 02-08-2009, 06:07 AM
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They all should be outed. Jerks like A-Rod, Canseco, and Bonds have cast a pall on a great game. Even if Bonds is the HR champion, he should never be allowed in the BB Hall of Fame. No one who took steroids should be inducted, period.
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Wolakrab - 2/8/2009 9:07 AM

They all should be outed. Jerks like A-Rod, Canseco, and Bonds have cast a pall on a great game. Even if Bonds is the HR champion, he should never be allowed in the BB Hall of Fame. No one who took steroids should be inducted, period.
I agree with that. I bet guys like Bonds and A-____ would probably still be at the top of their game without the drugs, so why bother? Baseball (and i'll bet other pro sports) have a problem here. They better get a real handle on it with serious action or people will stop shelling out big bucks to watch a bunch of doped-up millionaires play catch.

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Hydro - 2/8/2009 9:12 AM

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They all should be outed. Jerks like A-Rod, Canseco, and Bonds have cast a pall on a great game. Even if Bonds is the HR champion, he should never be allowed in the BB Hall of Fame. No one who took steroids should be inducted, period.
I agree with that. I bet guys like Bonds and A-____ would probably still be at the top of their game without the drugs, so why bother? Baseball (and i'll bet other pro sports) have a problem here. They better get a real handle on it with serious action or people will stop shelling out big bucks to watch a bunch of doped-up millionaires play catch.
Some estimates have the total number of Major League Players that have used PED's at somewhere in the 70% range.

Am I opposed to the use of PED's? Sure, but if I'm a hitter, and I know the pitchers are using it, I'd be tempted. If I'm a pitcher and I knew the hitters were using it? I'd be tempted.

Bud Selig and the Union get a pass while the players take the beating, sure, OK, they make millions but the Collective Bargaining Agreement has fostered this misuse.

Football gets a HELL of a skate on this one. How do guys like Brett Favre take beatings into their silver years? How about Golf, Tennis, and even Hollywood use is rampant. But who cares about them.

I was glued to the TV when this crap started, now I just don't care anymore. It was accepted behavior, by the owners, managers, agents, unions, MLB's office, NETWORKS (nobody likes homeruns like the press). Everyone made millions on the use of PED's not just the players. I say move on.

No more George Mitchell Bullsh!t. (joke)

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If you object to the apparently rampant steroids in baseball, don't watch it at all in person and on TV and don't buy products advertised at the stadiums, on TV or otherwise connected with the sport or endorsed by its players. It will free up a lot of time for other productive activities and save you a lot of money. It seems to me that if the sport was serious about addressing the problem, it would require regular or continuous testing (all players hitting above a certain level, the top 50% of pitchers, etc.). The manner in which the players union fights testing and the owners acquiesce shows they don't care. They may change their tune if a quarter of the fan base had standards (unlikely) and quit supporting the sport in its current form.
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Old 02-08-2009, 09:32 AM
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You just described almost every major sport! Not likely the US is going to give up on sports any time soon.
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Many have argued, players included, when it comes to the hall of fame and PED use, either let them ALL in, or do not allow any of them. I hate that Bonds (not a fan at all) gets all the attention when it is well known others have used drugs as well. Someone make a decision and stop with the asterisk BS, either let them in or do not.

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Old 02-08-2009, 09:46 AM
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There will NEVER be an asterisk in baseball. Bonds is unpopular 1/2 because he cheated and the other half because he's a ass.
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SeaNile - 2/8/2009 12:40 PM

Many have argued, players included, when it comes to the hall of fame and PED use, either let them ALL in, or do not allow any of them. I hate that Bonds (not a fan at all) gets all the attention when it is well known others have used drugs as well. Someone make a decision and stop with the asterisk BS, either let them in or do not.

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Bonds get the most attention cause he broke the most sacred record. If he was just an an average player, nobody would really care.
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Old 02-08-2009, 10:28 AM
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That's the point, you can't slam one guy because he is a jerk. If he was just an average player, so because he is not he gets the most attention? What about the pitcher who recovered from an injury earlier than expected, or the guy that hit .280 rather than .255....are they excluded? There are so many players who violated the policy.....either let them all in or none. It's simple.

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Old 02-08-2009, 01:31 PM
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If Bonds, A-Fraud and all the rest get a pass and no asterisk then I say Pete Rose deserves to be in the Hall of fame. That guy worked harder to be what he was than any current BB player.
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s_ebels - 2/8/2009 4:31 PM

If Bonds, A-Fraud and all the rest get a pass and no asterisk then I say Pete Rose deserves to be in the Hall of fame. That guy worked harder to be what he was than any current BB player.
I agree No doubt he should be in. If he didn't rub it in our faces (and more importantly Bud Seligs face) he probably would be in. Gambling is a tough one with sports.

What is surprising, is if you visit the Hall, his stuff is everywhere. I always thought a ban from the Hall meant non of your stuff goes in, but he has his own displays in there. Funny..
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Didn't the Red Sox want A-Rod around 2004?
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This is only going to get worse.
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