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Old 01-29-2009, 06:34 AM
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A pit bull in my back yard will quickly meet with the loud end of a .45 or a 12g shotgun. My dog is way to little and cowardly to fight back.
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dannyscat - 1/29/2009 9:28 AM

...nobody or nothing is preprogrammed to kill . ...
Confine two of those cute little Russian hamsters in close quarters with each other. You'll rethink your statement.



Confined, those things are vicious, will literally rip the guts out of each other.



You are literally a MORON ,come to my place to see how vicious they are ,or even better call my veterinary to find out his opinion . He has seen my dog since he was 6 weeks old ,and also sees my female 3 times a year . My dogs were raised among dogs ,cats ,birds, horses ,and people . Please try to be somewhat educated before making moronic judgement . It is a matter of responsibility ,not a breed problem.
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People who think that pits are no different from collies and cockers and hounds are just plain stupid. When a collie fights, he goes for the other dogs legs. And, like most breeds, they fight to the point of dominance, and when that point is reached, one will give up, roll on its back, and after a little growling and posturing, the winner will accept the surrender. Sharp teeth, a lot of bites and pain, but not a lot of damage, whether it's another dog, or a human. They may do it again tomorrow, and every time they meet, but few breeds are genetically wired to fight to the death.

It is actually not easy for one dog to kill another outright, if they are anywhere near evenly matched. When one dog kills another, it is usually a very uneven fight, or the dog dies later of loss of blood, or some other trauma. The record is full of cases where pits not only kill, but tear their victims apart.

A pit goes for the head and neck, locks down wherever he gets a hold, and shakes its head violently. It is the shaking that does most of the severe damage to muscles and joints, as opposed to the pain and multiple puncture wounds you get from most breeds. And, the pit does not accept the surrender posture when the family pet rolls over in terror, to him it's just another advantage to exploit.

You may think that you still got what it takes to put a can of whupass on a dog, but if it was your kids, or your parents, sitting in the park eating a cheeseburger, would you honestly think that they would be just as well off looking over their shoulder to see a pair of hungry pits 6 feet away, as a pair of cocker spaniels?

No matter how you train or socialize your dog, or think that you dominate him, that goes out the window when the dogs are out of your yard and on the prowl while you are drinking a sixpack and watching UFC. Sort of like teenagers.

Dogs have an uncanny sense of teamwork, whether they are working stock, or hunting deer. That makes them exponentially more dangerous when they are running in pairs or packs. And, there seems to be a trend in fatal attacks where dogs are working in pairs.

Danny, if "No dog should be left unsupervised no matter what kind they are", does that mean that no one who works a job where they can't take Fido with them should have a dog?

And Weed, if a dog can't tell the difference between a sick dog and a well dog, or a weak dog and a strong dog, then you have just reversed millions of years of evolutionary theory on survival of the fittest, and the prey/predator relationships of the carnivore world. Ask a K9 LEO if his dog is trained to be vicious, or trained to act that way. He is trained to do whatever he is needed to do, but he should have an on/off switch that lets him scare the s h i t out of you one minute, and lick your face the next. Not true of dogs on the prowl. And not true of pits. Have you ever seen a pit stop a fight on a voice command when the blood is flowing?
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People who think that pits are no different from collies and cockers and hounds are just plain stupid. When a collie fights, he goes for the other dogs legs. And, like most breeds, they fight to the point of dominance, and when that point is reached, one will give up, roll on its back, and after a little growling and posturing, the winner will accept the surrender. Sharp teeth, a lot of bites and pain, but not a lot of damage, whether it's another dog, or a human. They may do it again tomorrow, and every time they meet, but few breeds are genetically wired to fight to the death.

It is actually not easy for one dog to kill another outright, if they are anywhere near evenly matched. When one dog kills another, it is usually a very uneven fight, or the dog dies later of loss of blood, or some other trauma. The record is full of cases where pits not only kill, but tear their victims apart.

A pit goes for the head and neck, locks down wherever he gets a hold, and shakes its head violently. It is the shaking that does most of the severe damage to muscles and joints, as opposed to the pain and multiple puncture wounds you get from most breeds. And, the pit does not accept the surrender posture when the family pet rolls over in terror, to him it's just another advantage to exploit.

You may think that you still got what it takes to put a can of whupass on a dog, but if it was your kids, or your parents, sitting in the park eating a cheeseburger, would you honestly think that they would be just as well off looking over their shoulder to see a pair of hungry pits 6 feet away, as a pair of cocker spaniels?

No matter how you train or socialize your dog, or think that you dominate him, that goes out the window when the dogs are out of your yard and on the prowl while you are drinking a sixpack and watching UFC. Sort of like teenagers.

Dogs have an uncanny sense of teamwork, whether they are working stock, or hunting deer. That makes them exponentially more dangerous when they are running in pairs or packs. And, there seems to be a trend in fatal attacks where dogs are working in pairs.

Danny, if "No dog should be left unsupervised no matter what kind they are", does that mean that no one who works a job where they can't take Fido with them should have a dog?

And Weed, if a dog can't tell the difference between a sick dog and a well dog, or a weak dog and a strong dog, then you have just reversed millions of years of evolutionary theory on survival of the fittest, and the prey/predator relationships of the carnivore world. Ask a K9 LEO if his dog is trained to be vicious, or trained to act that way. He is trained to do whatever he is needed to do, but he should have an on/off switch that lets him scare the s h i t out of you one minute, and lick your face the next. Not true of dogs on the prowl. And not true of pits. Have you ever seen a pit stop a fight on a voice command when the blood is flowing?
My dogs are inside my home when we are not around ,but my wife spends most of the time at home. when we are home they go out to a fenced yard ,not so much because i am afraid they would attack anyone ,but to keep them safe . When they are outside they are watched ,since they are literally part of the family. Sincerily the most docile dogs i have ever had and i had over 12 different breeds . They do not have a special jaw ,and cannot lock them that is a misconception ,shared by some people . What hgappens is that excerting that much pressure can create muscle spasms . I purposedly trained my dog to release anything he has in his mouth . They can create a lot of damage if not properly socialized. A dog thrown in the back yard chained cannot be considered a pet ,much less on that is neglected or abused . My two dog are sleeping right behind me as i write this in my office sleeping safe and sound . I must be the luckiest man alive because i have two of the best behaved dogs in the world. You never read about the pits they use in California for search and rescue ,Wheela the dog that saved over 28 lives, other pits that saw danger and saved owners from snake bites ,yes they are not like any dog ,because no two breeds are alike. They are brave , loving ,if you raise them the way they should. Imagine raising a kid without any manners ,discipline ,decency what would you have? A potential criminal ,and if he had any size a real menace to society. The same can be said about dogs .Lousy irresponsible owners are going to have problem aninals ,if you read about it is dogs loose without restraints . The owners should be penalized . If you house break an animal you can have inside your home for many hours without creating a mess ,also looks can be a deterrent against thieves and we will more than likely have a major increase in it since this economy stinks and people become desperate.
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Dogs are like people-some can be trained, some can be trusted, some can be both, and some can be neither.

"locks down" was a descriptive term, not a physiological one. Now, describing the head shake of a pit with a mouth full of blood and fur as an involuntary muscle spasm, that was funny.
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dannyscat - 1/28/2009 8:28 AM
nobody or nothing is preprogrammed to kill
I don't know 1000% positive, but it was to my understanding that the Pit Bull WAS breed to fight/ kill.
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Sorry, it's been proven that nature > nurture.

Killed my dogs, pits are headless.

Attacked my kids, well, won't post that in public....
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You're gonna make that horse mean....Irresponsible pet owner....pfft.
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If pit bulls killed my dog, I would blow their heads off with a shotgun in front of the owners.


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My .38spl would kick a pitt bulls ass.

My 17lb rat terrier wouldn't stand a chance. But he'd at least maybe be able to out run a pit bull. He's a super fast little sh!t.
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CThomps - 1/31/2009 5:20 AM

My .38spl would kick a pitt bulls ass.

My 17lb rat terrier wouldn't stand a chance. But he'd at least maybe be able to out run a pit bull. He's a super fast little sh!t.
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Dogs are like people-some can be trained, some can be trusted, some can be both, and some can be neither.

"locks down" was a descriptive term, not a physiological one. Now, describing the head shake of a pit with a mouth full of blood and fur as an involuntary muscle spasm, that was funny.
You may have misunderstood ,they do not lock jaws ,but i know they do shake the head ,that is a real statement . You are wrong about no trustworthy ,it all depends how they were raised . Would i get close to an unknown dog ? Not a chance specially if they are roaming free no matter what kind they are. I will get close to one if i am assured by a responsible owner that the animal is ok . I was bitten once by a female that had pups ,i learned my lesson.
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nobody or nothing is preprogrammed to kill
I don't know 1000% positive, but it was to my understanding that the Pit Bull WAS breed to fight/ kill.
Animals then were trained to fight similar to rooster fighting ,never aimed at humans since it was very undesirable . Back then there was a ref. in the pit with the dogs as well as the handlers. Do i think it was right to do? Absolutely not ,not then or now . The animal that attacked the other should be put down with no exceptions .
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I find it interesting that some would choose the love over their Pit Bull(s) over the love of their family. Let’s face it, for all intense purpose there is basically zero chance of any member of the family killing or disfiguring a family’s pet(s) because they are having a bad day. Yet, there is the chance a Pit Bull will kill or disfigure a family member, neighbor or stranger because the dog is having an off day. Hmmmmm, scales don’t appear to be level.

If “I” had a choice, I would rather go to Disneyland, run the rapids of the Colorado River, explore the back country of Alaska, experience the Great Barrier Reef from above or below the water level, see the pyramids of Egypt or trek the ruins of Rome with my family then I would with my pet. I would choose to keep around me my wife, my sons and daughters and all the grandchildren that may follow for the rest of my life long before I would any pet. I would choose the smiles, laughter and tears of my loved ones long before I would welcome the breath of any dog and it’ wagging tail. And yet some would choose to gamble the safety, well being and all life has to offer over the love they have developed with a Pit Bull. To “me”, it just doesn’t make sense or even come close to a balance scale.

Maybe what I’m missing here is, owners of Pit Bulls are the type of people that leave loaded guns laying all over the place in their home. Me, I wouldn’t do that. Why, because I value the love of my wife, children, family, friends and neighbors more then I would over a Pit Bull or two.
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Just so everybody knows, the pit bulls were signed over to the SPCA and euthanized.

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JRS@OBX - 1/30/2009 10:54 PM

Just so everybody knows, the pit bulls were signed over to the SPCA and euthanized.
Rightly so!
RIP doggies.
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There needs to be a court order prohibiting those folks from ever owning pit bulls again.

They obviously were not responsible enough to protect their neighbors from the danger they chose to keep as pets.


ETA: what they need is a restraining order to prohibit them from owning pit bulls again. Folks with retaining orders are prohibited from owning firearms. Anyone that is that irresponsible with something as potentially dangerous as a pit bull is going to be just as irresponsible with something as potentially dangerous as firearms.

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"People who think that pits are no different from collies and cockers and hounds are just plain stupid. When a collie fights, he goes for the other dogs legs. And, like most breeds, they fight to the point of dominance, and when that point is reached, one will give up, roll on its back, and after a little growling and posturing, the winner will accept the surrender. Sharp teeth, a lot of bites and pain, but not a lot of damage, whether it's another dog, or a human. They may do it again tomorrow, and every time they meet, but few breeds are genetically wired to fight to the death. "

The "Expertise" in these threads is just astounding. . . .and laughable. Dogs (in general) tend to be different "biters" some are leg biters, some are withers biters, some face biters etc. Pit Bull dogs are the same. There is plenty of info out there if you REALLY want to know about dog fighting. It was popular for centuries. These generalizations are just silly rhetoric. Again, there are bad dogs and bad owners, put the two together and you have a problem. There are plenty of Pit Bull success storys. Hell, what about the "Dog Whisperer" guy? His number one Dog is a Pit? It hasnt hurt anybody, You gonna kill his dog as well?

The SKy is definitely falling.
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