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Old 12-21-2008, 02:07 PM
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Anybody have experience with Home Theaters?

Help me out... I'm looking at this Sony system tell me the pros and cons..

It will couple to a 65" Toshiba HD unit in a room that is close to 300sqft. With a 20’ tall ceiling.

Just not 100% sure I want a BluRay setup yet as we do not rent more than 5-8 DVD's a year.

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The Sony® DAV-HDX576WF BRAVIA® Theatre System has anintegrated 5 disc DVD/CD changer with the capability toupscale your DVD’s to a Full 1080p output using the HDMI™connection to your BRAVIA® TV set. Adding to the incrediblefunctionality is great styling with Floor Standing speakers andwith the included S-AIR® wireless surround receiver you getsimple wireless capability for the rear surround speakers ormulti-room listening with the S-AIR wireless receiver/speakersystem.


S-AIR Technology : Multi-room listening made easy. Free your music.From room. To room. To room. AirStation automatically syncs to allow multi-room listening through simple, wireless plug-and-play technology while letting you control what you listen to.

BRAVIA® Sync : As a leader in products with HDMI connectivity, Sony has created BRAVIA® Theatre Sync to go beyond simple audio and video transmission. When combined with a BRAVIA® Theatre Sync-ready BRAVIA® Televisions and other Sony audio and video products, in addition to audio and video transmission, control functions will be transmitted via the HDMI cable. With “One Touch Play,” operations that took several steps have been reduced to one. Press the PLAY button on the remote, watch the audio and/or the video component(s) turn on then the BRAVIA® television turn on and switch to the correct video input–Simple–Easy–BRAVIA® Theatre Sync.

DIGITAL MEDIA PORT : As the demand for digital content continues to be strong, here's the challenge: how do you access digital music in various devices from a home theater system– The answer: Sony’s DIGITAL MEDIA PORT (DMP). This proprietary interface adds networking and connectivity to the options of home theater systems and components, connects with various devices today and in the future, provides the ability to control and power devices while making set up easy and operation simple to use. The DMP will be compatible with various accessories which will include a PC Client device, Bluetooth receiver and Audio Docking Stations compatible with Network Walkman and iPod® products. So regardless of how you store your music, Sony’s DIGITAL MEDIA PORT grants access, provides control and integrates your portable music into a traditional home theater system.

HDMI™ Output with 720P/1080p upscaling of DVD Media : Reads the data on a standard DVD at 480P and maximizes the video resolution to best fit your HDMI compatible TV. This allows for you to enjoy the best in video performance while delivering digital Video and Audio over one simple cable.

Digital Cinema Auto Calibration : Now the optimal speaker for your living room is only a press of button away. Simply place the included microphone in your listening position and allow the strength of Sony’s Digital Signal Processing to take over. Speaker placement, distance, and delays are all adjusted automatically to ensure a worry free listening experience.
Portable Audio Enhancer : Simplified front audio and video connections are part of what makes the DAV-HDX567WF ideal for today’s portables. Beyond the simplified connection a powerful Digital Signal Processor is used to expand the quality from any device that is connected.

Multi Speaker Formation : Select from the on screen display to configure the system for different speaker layout.

Music/Movie Mode : System automatically adjusts sound characteristics to match the source (movie vs. music).
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Once you see one blue ray in all it's 1080P brilliance, you won't want to go back!

The Sony "Dream" systems are what they are, the appeal to those who do not want or have the money to spend on a separates setup. My mother has a DAV system (as much as I hate Sony, it's what I recommended since her and her husband are not the HT buffs I am).

Anything I would buy right now, I'd make sure it supports the latest loss less Blue Ray audio formats like Dolby Digital HD and DTS Master Audio. Up conversion of lower definition formats will depend on the quality of the scaler in the hardware. I have a Faroudja DCDI Edge scaler and I am still not impressed (it's no doubt, better than it was using the TV to do the scaling or using the Blue Ray player) but it comes back to, once you've seen a Blue Ray on a 1080P display, WOW....

I do not think you will get very high levels of sound from that system in that room size.. If you are not a movie buff this may not be an issue, but basically it's like trying to kill Godzilla with a .22LR.... Small speakers do not fill large rooms with sound, never have, never will.

Your room size calls for something THX Ultra 2 Certified or above.

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Stinger II,
Thanks but looking at the THX Ultra Certified those systems start at 1200.00 I guess I should have stated I'm more looking for quality surround sound system and those THX systems are not in the budget...

Although I agree on the BluRay right now I do not see the need since like I said 8 movies a year at best...I do want a unit that can be upgraded down the road and my understanding is HDMI provides this... am I correct on that line of thinking?

The room is 20X30 and the distance from screen to sofa is 12-14' with speakers being 4' behind the sofa mounted 10' off the ground. I like the wireless aspect because I would be looking at close to 100' or more run for just those speaker wires (vaulted ceiling). The main area that forms the viewing is 14'X16' give or take a foot here and there.

So given this extra info would you say this system fits the bill?

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I'm staying out of this.
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Old 12-21-2008, 07:47 PM
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John,

No the system does not fit the bill. The reason I mentioned THX UltraII is that it's more than an audio bench mark, it's an easy way to determine what size equipment you need to reproduce reference levels of sound in a certain living space.

That system will work, but it won't work well. There will never be enough output to fill the room with sound. If you listen to movies at 50-60 Db, then go with it.. But don't expect 75 or 80Db from that setup.

I just picked up my Onkyo SR806 from Crutchfield for $699 shipped. That is enough receiver for that room. My area is 16.5 x 20 with 10' ceilings and I can achieve reference levels when needed. (yes there is more to this, you need speakers, and a source so the price will be much higher).

As for future proofing, yes for now HDMI is all the rage. Lord knows what will replace it in 8 years, but for now it is the standard and works quite well. I love the HDMI-CEC feature of all my components. One remote runs the whole deal, which used to be a very complicated task.


I do not know how well that Infra-red wireless setup on the DAV surrounds will work, that far away. My Mother's surrounds are maybe 13' from the receiver and it seems to work fairly well.

The sub woofer is junk (not much of a surprise) and sounds like it's ready to chuck it's voice coil at any given moment.



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I am very interested in your input! C'mon man!

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Stinger II,

Thanks for the info I'll take it into consideration.

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i just picked up a yamaha rxv 2700 140 watts per channel 7.1 from 6th ave electronics for 749. its not the current year model but the was listed for 1599 when it was its brand new with full warrantee. going to try my cervin vegas for my main and a set of orb satts and sub for the rears. if im not happy with the cvs ill check out another speaker set up from definitive technology for my mains
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Thanks, Total Mayhem...

Looks more and more like this is going to be an expensive project.


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After I hooked up the 3,000 wires to the system and got the 7 remotes out when I hit "on" nothing happened. I checked the 3,000 wires played with the 7 remotes and then just gave up after three weeks. I now have a TV and a DVD player with two wires and one remote and I no longer stress over trying to turn on the TV.
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fishingfun - 12/24/2008 5:34 AM

After I hooked up the 3,000 wires to the system and got the 7 remotes out when I hit "on" nothing happened. I checked the 3,000 wires played with the 7 remotes and then just gave up after three weeks. I now have a TV and a DVD player with two wires and one remote and I no longer stress over trying to turn on the TV.


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fishingfun - 12/23/2008 1:34 PM

After I hooked up the 3,000 wires to the system and got the 7 remotes out when I hit "on" nothing happened. I checked the 3,000 wires played with the 7 remotes and then just gave up after three weeks. I now have a TV and a DVD player with two wires and one remote and I no longer stress over trying to turn on the TV.

HDMI and HDMI-CEC eliminate most if not all of those issues.

I have an HDMI out from the BlueRay to the Receiver and also a TosLink out from the BlueRay (for CD Transport only, use) one HDMI from the TV to the Receiver and that's about it.... And one remote turns it all on (in fact, any of the remotes are interoperable with the other devices thanks to HDMI-CEC).


I will still, eventually swap in my LCD touch screen, my Phillips TSU6000 has seen better days, I am considering the Harmony 1000 to replace it.

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Just turn the damn thing on, all of it, and leave it on. Forever. Then you can throw away all of those remotes.


Seriously, there is someone here on THT that programs remotes, but I forget who.

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look into bose ,by far the best sound ,and combine it witha blue ray to get the best of both worlds.
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hey danny check out orbaudio.com to compare against the bose sats and subwoofer . they are factory direct and according to alot of the reviews arent even close . i only found out about them after telling a guy i work with i was about to buy the bose hes had both sold the bose . mine just showed up from ups but wont be getting hooked up until after christmas . ill post after i get a chance to put a variety of tunes through them
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dannyscat - 12/23/2008 3:59 PM

look into bose ,by far the best sound ,and combine it witha blue ray to get the best of both worlds.




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dannyscat - 12/23/2008 3:59 PM

look into bose ,by far the best sound ,and combine it witha blue ray to get the best of both worlds.




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Ok after having some people over that have complete systems they pointed out something’s and we did some in store research yesterday and have chosen this setup from Sony.

Sony - 735W 7.1-Ch. A/V Home Theater Receiver
Model: STR-DG720

Product Features
18 DSP (Digital Signal Processor) soundfields, including cinema, music, auto format decoding and 2-channel for enhanced audio purity
XM Satellite Radio Connect-and-Play-ready: XM Radio subscription, Connect-and-Play tuner and antenna required (not included)
Multiple surround sound decoders built in. Learn more about surround sound home theater
735 watts total power: 105 watts x 7 @ 8 ohms, 1kHz, 1.0% THD
Digital Cinema Sound technology for rich sound performance
Surround sound decoders: Dolby Digital, Digital EX, Pro Logic, Pro Logic II, Pro Logic IIX, DTS, DTS-ES, DTS 96/24 and DTS NEO:6
Advanced A/V Sync function matches movements to sound for reduced audio delays
Digital Cinema Auto Calibration function uses a microphone to determine room acoustics and adjust for speaker connections, distances from listening position and sound pressure levels for improved audio quality
AM/FM tuner with 60 station presets (30 AM, 30 FM)
Speaker A/B switching
Digital MEDIA Port (DMP) lets you integrate your portable audio devices with your home entertainment system; compatible with Network Walkman and Apple® iPod® docking stations (not included)
HDTV-compatible component video output ensures compatibility with HDTV monitors and HDTVs
Inputs: 3 HDMI, 3 HDMI component A/V, 4 composite video, 2 optical audio, 1 coaxial digital audio, 7 RCA audio, Digital MEDIA Port (DMP)
Outputs: 1 HD component video, 1 HDMI, 1 composite video, 2 RCA audio, 1 subwoofer, headphone
BRAVIA Theater Sync function lets you integrate and control compatible BRAVIA components
Includes remote
With the following speakers;
Sony - 10" 100-Watt Powered Subwoofer
Model: SAW2500

Product Features
Built-in amplifier delivers 100 watts of power
10" mica-reinforced cellular woofer
Motion feedback technology
Line- and speaker-level inputs
Advanced bass reflex design and long-throw driver
Frequency response: 28-200Hz

Sony - 8" 3-Way Floorstanding Speakers (Pair)
Model: SSF5000

Product Features
Up to 150 watts maximum input power
Each speaker features one 8" Kevlar HOP woofer, one 3-1/4" enhanced HOP cone midrange and one 1" NanoFine balanced dome tweeter
Sound reproduction to 50kHz means you'll enjoy comprehensive audio
Push-type speaker terminals are easy to use and provide faithful signal transfer
Sleek design complements almost any décor
Frequency response: 45Hz - 50kHz
Sensitivity: 88dB
Impedance: 8 ohms

Sony - 5-1/4" 2-Way Bookshelf Speakers (Pair)
Model: SSB1000

Product Features
Up to 120 watts maximum input power
Each speaker features one 5-1/4" enhanced HOP cone woofer and one 1" NanoFine balanced dome tweeter
Sound reproduction to 50kHz means you'll enjoy the high-resolution audio
Push-type speaker terminals are easy to use and provide faithful signal transfer
Sleek design blends well with almost any décor
Frequency response: 80Hz - 50kHz
Sensitivity: 87dB
Impedance: 8 ohms
Sony - Dual 5-1/4" 2-Way Center-Channel Speaker
Model: SSCN5000

Product Features
Up to 150 watts maximum input power
Dual 5-1/4" enhanced HOP woofers and one 1" NanoFine balanced dome tweeter
Design matches that of other Sony BRAVIA components
Sound reproduction to 50kHz means you'll enjoy high-resolution audio
Push-type speaker terminals are easy to use and provide faithful signal transfer
Frequency response: 85Hz - 50kHz
Sensitivity: 89dB
Impedance: 8 ohms
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Why Sony if I may ask?

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hey jtburf i hook up the new yamaha receiver this weekend with the orb speakers and sub. i dont have it hooked up to rear speakers yet as i wanted to try out the orbs. they sound unreal. i unhooked the cerwin vegas already and they are going away into the garage until my brother in law come takes them and i will be ordering rears and a center from orb. my room isnt as large as yours just under 220 sq ft but the sound from those small speakers and sub is unreal. i never thought they could compete with my larger speakers but the difference is night and day .i played all different types of music and they are crystal clear. it took awhile to figure out to get the receiver programmed as i made some adjustments after the auto programing was completed. good luck with your choice and take a look at orbaudio.com to see the speakers im talking about
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StingerII - 12/28/2008 11:30 AM

Why Sony if I may ask?
Affordable, I have had Sony products in the past and never been let down..

Why not Sony?

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