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Old 12-20-2008, 08:48 PM
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Default Has anyone installed an ice maker in a freezer that wasn't equipped for one?

I have an ice maker in the new LG refrigerator/freezer we just bought for the kitchen. There is no way to get a water line to the refrigerator so I want to remove the ice maker unit and put it into the GE freezer in my garage. I'm tried of buying ice during the summer when I go fishing and the ice maker isn't doing anything since I can't get a water line to it so I got the brilliant idea of putting it into my garage freezer where I can easily get a water line to.

Has anyone installed an automatic ice maker into to a freezer that wasn't made for an ice maker? Is something that I should try? How complicated is it to do? Does it matter if the brands of freezers are different?

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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Old 12-20-2008, 09:37 PM
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Russ that's like an oxymoron. You're willing to rip apart a perfectly good refrig to install an ice maker from another brand/ manufacture and yet you're not willing to damage a little drywall or ceiling tile to install a 3/8" soft copper tubing.
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I'm sorry, it was this line: "Russ that's like an oxymoron. You're willing to rip apart a perfectly good refrig to install an ice maker from another brand ..."


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You need to install the factort unit and only in Frigs were design for them.

The tubing is easy to install, does your home have a crawl space or basement?
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Russ, you better have a darn good reason you can't run a 3/8" copper line, you're about to get lynched

I don't know anything about refridgerators, but I think the issue may be drilling through the chilling parts for the water tube. This is something I would like to know myself.....
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You don't need a 3/8" line, you need a little 1/4" od line. The line can run thru the cabinets, or hook up to ANY hot or cold water line anywhere.
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Agreed, small plastic line and you can use a saddle valve to attach to just about anything and the tubing is easy to run, even if you have to run it up one wall, through the attic, and down the other.

I don't think it's worth trying to remove the ice maker in your fridge now, as it is probably tied into the electronics and valves in your LG, and just seems silly to trash a brand new fridge. However there is probably an ice maker kit for $100 that will fit your freezer in the garage. This page even lists "generic icemaker" which sounds promising and is probably low-tech enough that you could mount it on a piece of wood and hack together the wiring...

http://www.apwagner.com/index.php?ma...ex&cPath=5_224
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OMG, do I really need to explain this? There is no way to get a water line to my refrigerator. I tried to figure out a way but I couldn't so I called a plumber. The plumber couldn't figure out a way to get a water line to the refrigerator either without tearing something up. The refrigerator sits on 1/2 wall in the kitchen, the floor is ceramic tile, my downstairs is finished drywall with no ceiling access unless you cut holes in the ceiling. There are no cabinets on the side of the kitchen where the refrigerator is at.

The point is that even if I could get a water line to the refrigerator in the kitchen my wife said she wouldn't want it connected anyway. We have well water and we don't use tap water for our ice for drinking. She wants the extra room in the refrigerator so I want to remove the ice maker anyway. When I bought the new refrigerator/freezer there was no "ice maker delete" option.

I didn't see the need to explain all of this, I just want to know if I should try to put the ice maker that came with the new refrigerator into my garage freezer. Thanks for your comment Garett but I'm not planning on "ripping apart" anything.

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You don't need a 3/8" line, you need a little 1/4" od line.
I'll challenge the 1/4" od line. Do one with 1/4" and one with 3/8" line and get a glass of water from the dispenser.......you'll quickly realize you want the one with the 3/8" line.
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This thread has got me thinking, I am pretty sure I could hack together a full size ice maker out of a chest freezer and a couple of those units. I wonder if they could make 10-15 lbs of ice a day... hmmm....
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Flot- If you check the Internet you can find "ice maker kits" for like $100 or less. If you can buy a kit I don't know why you couldn't find a way to make it work. Kind of the same thing I'm trying to figure out except I already have the ice maker.

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This thread has got me thinking, I am pretty sure I could hack together a full size ice maker out of a chest freezer and a couple of those units. I wonder if they could make 10-15 lbs of ice a day... hmmm....
I have a brand new "spare" ice maker for my main fridge that I was thinking of installing in my garage freezer.. but those units only make about a small bag of ice per day. It would take all week to make enough ice for one boat ride.
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Flot- If you check the Internet you can find "ice maker kits" for like $100 or less. If you can buy a kit I don't know why you couldn't find a way to make it work. Kind of the same thing I'm trying to figure out except I already have the ice maker.
Most of those kits are for freezer-on-top units made 5-30 years ago when icemakers WERE an optional component so everything was modular. I think the big thing you'll be missing is the wiring to the valve assembly and the valve itself. If you're going to rip it out anyway, what will be interesting is to see what the wiring harness looks like, and if you can figure out what is what. I don't think it's impossible, just difficult. If you look on ebay you can see some of the generic "ice makers" for $35ish and then a couple complete retrofit kits for $100ish that include the wiring connectors, valves, etc.

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I have a brand new "spare" ice maker for my main fridge that I was thinking of installing in my garage freezer.. but those units only make about a small bag of ice per day. It would take all week to make enough ice for one boat ride.
That would fit my boating schedule quite nicely.

Actually I was thinking that if you could find a chest freezer just big enough to hold a decent sized cooler, you could rig an old ice maker or two on the lid, put the cooler in, and come back a week later to a pre-chilled cooler full of ice...
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Ok we'll abandon the notion of installing a water line. Let's look at what's involved with removing and installing the ice maker from one frig to another. First off, the ice maker in the existing frig is plumbed to the refrig's compressor, therefore there is R-12 (freon) involved and plumbing invoved. Therefore the removal of the ice maker involves a licensed professional that can capture the R-12 coolant before any of the plumbing can be dealt with. Once R-12 is taken care of now you or the licensed A/C guy has to deal with the plumbing of the coolant lines. After the coolant lines have been patched up the system needs to be recharged. So that covers your existing frig with the ice maker in it.

The frig you have in the garage.........is the compressor large enough to handle the addition load of an ice maker? Let's hypothetically say yes it is. Now you need the licensed A/C tech to capture the R-12 so the plumbing can be tapped into, pay the tech to run new lines to your transplanted ice maker and recharge the A/C system. And if your budget isn't looking to good about now, don't forget you haven't even paid for the service call yet.

If you can buy a stand alone ice maker for a hundred buck, well chance are you could buy three or four of them for the money you'll spend for a professional to come into your home to do the type of work you're after annnnnnnd that ALL depends on whether the compressor in the garage can handle the extra load of the ice maker.

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Garett - 12/21/2008 10:49 AM
First off, the ice maker in the existing frig is plumbed to the refrig's compressor, therefore there is R-12 (freon) involved and plumbing invoved.
What? No it's not, unless you have one heck of a freezer. At best it is located in a particularly cool part of the freezer or near a circulation fan.
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Flot- If you check the Internet you can find "ice maker kits" for like $100 or less. If you can buy a kit I don't know why you couldn't find a way to make it work. Kind of the same thing I'm trying to figure out except I already have the ice maker.
Most of those kits are for freezer-on-top units made 5-30 years ago when icemakers WERE an optional component so everything was modular. I think the big thing you'll be missing is the wiring to the valve assembly and the valve itself. If you're going to rip it out anyway, what will be interesting is to see what the wiring harness looks like, and if you can figure out what is what. I don't think it's impossible, just difficult. If you look on ebay you can see some of the generic "ice makers" for $35ish and then a couple complete retrofit kits for $100ish that include the wiring connectors, valves, etc.

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I have a brand new "spare" ice maker for my main fridge that I was thinking of installing in my garage freezer.. but those units only make about a small bag of ice per day. It would take all week to make enough ice for one boat ride.
That would fit my boating schedule quite nicely.

Actually I was thinking that if you could find a chest freezer just big enough to hold a decent sized cooler, you could rig an old ice maker or two on the lid, put the cooler in, and come back a week later to a pre-chilled cooler full of ice!
Better yet... get one that will fit a keg and you have a two in one machine!

There is nothing to the wiring harness. Two wires... hot and neutral.. to the water solenoid valve from the ice maker itself. And hot and neutral to the ice maker. You won't have a shut off unless you get fancy with a set of optics.
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The icemarker is not hooked to compressor lines on any residental refs. Household ref have not used r12 in 15 years. Rushh, I think the IM on a LG ref has a sensor connected to control board when disconnected will not work. Most LG ref ruduce voltage down to 24v Dc for IM. Will not work in GE ref. You can get a IM6 kit that fits almost all GE ref for @ $100.00 new. Flot I once took an old 20cf top mount ref with an IM on left side of freezer added another IM on right side. I took out all the shelfs and put a piece of plastic along front with door still on. Both IMs running would fill freezer in 2 days. Around 40lbs. Would have made more but no room. I can put IM in chest freezer no problem.
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Ok we'll abandon the notion of installing a water line. Let's look at what's involved with removing and installing the ice maker from one frig to another. First off, the ice maker in the existing frig is plumbed to the refrig's compressor, therefore there is R-12 (freon) involved and plumbing invoved. Therefore the removal of the ice maker involves a licensed professional that can capture the R-12 coolant before any of the plumbing can be dealt with. Once R-12 is taken care of now you or the licensed A/C guy has to deal with the plumbing of the coolant lines. After the coolant lines have been patched up the system needs to be recharged. So that covers your existing frig with the ice maker in it.

The frig you have in the garage.........is the compressor large enough to handle the addition load of an ice maker? Let's hypothetically say yes it is. Now you need the licensed A/C tech to capture the R-12 so the plumbing can be tapped into, pay the tech to run new lines to your transplanted ice maker and recharge the A/C system. And if your budget isn't looking to good about now, don't forget you haven't even paid for the service call yet.

If you can buy a stand alone ice maker for a hundred buck, well chance are you could buy three or four of them for the money you'll spend for a professional to come into your home to do the type of work you're after annnnnnnd that ALL depends on whether the compressor in the garage can handle the extra load of the ice maker.

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woftam1024 - 12/21/2008 11:49 AM
Flot I once took an old 20cf top mount ref with an IM on left side of freezer added another IM on right side. I took out all the shelfs and put a piece of plastic along front with door still on. Both IMs running would fill freezer in 2 days. Around 40lbs. Would have made more but no room. I can put IM in chest freezer no problem.
Great info Woftam!
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