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Old 12-15-2008, 06:38 PM
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Hey all, I am thinking of upgrading to the N but not too sure if it is worth it. I live in a 1-bedroom apartment with my gf and I (both have computers) so the distance of the N would not be the need. I currently have a modem/router in one unit that has a tendancy when both computers are running to restart itself. Happens esspecially if one if watching a movie or on watching videos on Hulu. It has crapped out twice tonight in the span of 30 minutes. I just have to flip the power button, but its a hassle.

If I were to purchase the N, it would most likely be wired to my computer then wireless to the laptop (laptop would not initially have an N wireless card) but laptop is only 15-20 feet from the router.

I have comcast high speed internet. If downloading, I can hit 1.1mb/sec but usually around 700kb/sec.

I got a wal-mart gift card from xmas from my employer and thought about upgrading. Any advice from those who have it? Is it worth it? Also, how much faster can I expect? I've read cnet.com reviews and it seems pretty good, but I like to hear real world opinons. Also, what router do you have?
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Old 12-15-2008, 06:52 PM
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Honestly, in your environment, I would look at getting an inexpensive route to replace the one you have. If your current modem is built into the router you could daisy chain off of it with a new router so that you are only using one port.

WiFi is nice stuff hardwired is better. In a small environment you should be ok with hardwired. If you are dead set on wifi, the 'n' only become necessary if you get into multi-channel audio and/or hi-def video. Otherwise, 802.11a or g will handle your wifi needs.

If you do get wifi there is a crap load of security stuff you will want to set up. Nothing difficult, but something that you should do.
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Old 12-15-2008, 06:58 PM
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Eyeball- Thanks for your response. Both computers are currently on WiFi and password protected. But we're all looking for the next best thing! I thought I'd look into it and ask THT as I always get honest, well-informed opinions.
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Old 12-15-2008, 07:03 PM
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Yeah, some of those HD porn movies are heavy on the bandwidth.
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Old 12-15-2008, 07:37 PM
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Here is the one rated best by C Net

Nevermind, the user reviews suck. Remeber N is still in Draft.

http://reviews.cnet.com/routers/belk...rColumnArea1.1
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Old 12-15-2008, 09:39 PM
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Dont worry about wireless N or G or any other letter. Plain old 802.11B will get you 10 mbps with a good signal. A marginal signal will get you 5 mbps. A crappy signal will get you 2 mbps. In a small apartment you can count on an excellent signal.

All of the above are faster than your 1.1 mbps maximum speed.

So why bother with G, which can give you 54mbps? I do not know what N claims but I thing it is more than G. Lets see here, B = 10 mbps and G = 54, so each letter is 8.8 mbps so N is 115?? 116?? Close??? Not even close??

Bur you will only notice the speed boost over 802.11B if you are transferring files from one computer to another over the wireless network. If all you are doing is connecting to the internet - then you will not notice anything.

My old laptop had built in 802.11B. The one I have now has built in G. It connects to the router at 54 mbps. But to be honest, I have not noticed any difference. Speed tests on the DSL connection still read 1.5 mbps.

Now the real question.....does painting racing stripes on my car make it go faster? If all I do are paint the stripes?
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Old 12-16-2008, 12:27 AM
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the router letter is the speed the router sends the info. Not how fast the internet is transfered to your house. Mentioned above is correct, the letter does not really matter, the fastest household internet I have ever seen is 20/20 through verizon fiber optics. I think I have read it is 50/30 in some areas, but rare. Anyway. It is only beneficial to you if your sending pictures and movies from computer to computer in your house, or If your gaming with computers in your house, Otherwise, internet does not make a hell of alot of difference in your case. In my case I need N for the extended range. But your apartment will do just fine on a standard G. I dont think they sell B anymore.

Look at it this way. Say the internet is a UPS truck. The Ups truck moves at one set speed, It only cares about getting to your house. Once its at your house, it does not care how fast you run around giving the people their packages. All the letters do is control How fast you run around your house giving the people their packages


So internet= UPS
super fast human= router.
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Old 12-16-2008, 05:13 AM
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The wireless N will give you faster file transfer speeds for files across your network. While it will make no difference with internet speeds, looking at a typical 5mb jpg located on another computer will be much faster with the wireless N. So if you have a centralized computer with media on it that you wish to view from a wireless laptop, then the wireless N will make a difference.
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Old 12-16-2008, 07:34 AM
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For your scenario, I recommend a "wireless gaming router" , specifically the D-link DGL-4300. I would get a new, separate cable modem to use with it. The computer to router wireless speed is most likely not your roadblock. You could go with the DGL-4500 if you really want wireless N.
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Old 12-17-2008, 10:12 AM
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I got an "N" router at Circuit City last month (aprx $75-80). My house is 24X26 but the clerk says the signal should expand well beyond that. It has 4 ethernet ports so you run it wired or un-wired. It can be secured. It works with the pre-installed wireless system in our Acer laptops.

The clerk asked if we do gaming and when I said no, sterred us to this and some others (G I think) but the cost of the N router was not that much more so I chose that. If you are going to do gaming my impression is you should look at another unit but for surfing and movies N-band should be ok.

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Old 12-17-2008, 12:17 PM
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I have a N router and it sucks the big one. The POS wants to reboot and it can not penetrate all the floors in my house. I actually get a better signal on G than with N.
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Tireless - 12/17/2008 11:17 AM

I have a N router and it sucks the big one. The POS wants to reboot and it can not penetrate all the floors in my house. I actually get a better signal on G than with N.
Tireless hittin' the G spot with regularity. Whodathunkit?


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Snapper Head - 12/18/2008 6:28 AM

Tireless - 12/17/2008 11:17 AM

I have a N router and it sucks the big one. The POS wants to reboot and it can not penetrate all the floors in my house. I actually get a better signal on G than with N.
Tireless hittin' the G spot with regularity. Whodathunkit?


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It's not really clear if he is hitting or missing the G spot with regularity. Could go either way.

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Old 12-17-2008, 04:25 PM
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Thanks guys. I use the internet for general use, with the occasion video on Hulu.com, not full length movies as my router has a tendency to restart which screws up the video. If I go wired, I don't have a problem. Maybe I will just buy a 15 foot ethernet cable and go wired when I want to watch a video. Seems that N would be ideal if I had a large home or wanted to share mutlimedia.
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Old 12-17-2008, 05:32 PM
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Get a 25-ft cable. That extra 10-feet makes moving around a lot more comfortable. Shouldn't cost more than $30-$40.
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Old 12-17-2008, 05:38 PM
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Eyeball - 12/17/2008 8:32 PM

Get a 25-ft cable. That extra 10-feet makes moving around a lot more comfortable. Shouldn't cost more than $30-$40.
Good point. Thanks. When I am wired to the router, it works great even if watching videos.
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Old 12-19-2008, 05:42 AM
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Wireless N is no better for web browsing than G or B unless you need the range AND have N devices at both ends (router and computer)
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Seacat FL - 12/19/2008 9:42 PM

Wireless N is no better for web browsing than G or B unless ...
That should read "no better for web browsing than G or A unless..." B is the same as G, same freq, except 1/4 the speed. G is the same speed as A but on a more common freq, 2.4gHz, as is B.

Something that is not being discussed in this thread is interference from other sources while surfing the web with Wifi. It matters. A at 5gHz has much less interference, is a more robust signal. You can have a 100% wifi connection with G and have a web surfing experience that is like running through knee-deep mud because of all the other stuff that operates on 2.4gHz.

Of the three common wifi flavors, 802.11a usually is the best. It is also more expensive, and thus less common, but it doesn't have to compete with Bluetooth devices, cellphones, cordless phones, microwave ovens, radar, electric toothbrushes, babyroom monitors, and a billion neighbors surfing the web on 2.4gHz.


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Old 12-21-2008, 12:38 PM
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You just can't go wrong with this model....

Mine has been operating 24/7, 365 days a year, for the last 5 years. I keep it downstairs in the basement, with the spiders, the dog hair, the dust, occasional water damage, 20 degrees or 100 degrees ambient temp, etc.

Every now and then I feel bad for it, and give it a firmware upgrade. It's currently got about 1/4 inch of dust on the top.

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