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Old 12-12-2008, 11:43 AM
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I put new tires on my 2004 Honda Accord 4 door V-6 the first part of Nov. I then went on a little road trip, 7100 miles of road trip to be exact. Well here is the deal, for about the first hour or hour and a half on the road the car wants to float then calms down. Dry or wet road did the same. Had no problems with the old tires except I wore them out. The car had 49000 miles on it when I changed the tires.
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Old 12-12-2008, 01:14 PM
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the car wants to float
Can you clarify what you mean by this?
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Old 12-12-2008, 01:18 PM
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it wants to go left then right then left then right.
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Old 12-12-2008, 01:50 PM
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Sounds like something is loose in the front end? tie rod, wheel bearing, cv joint? Tires can flat spot while sitting parked, but that usually goes away after a few miles. I would have a trustworthy shop look at the steering and front end components.
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Old 12-12-2008, 02:01 PM
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Best guess....They set it up for zero toe in during the wheel alignment which the manufacturer probably calls for. (Or they accidently have it toed out) tell them what it does and they can readjust it.

But why it goes away cannot be explained by the above. Check your tire pressure.



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Old 12-12-2008, 02:38 PM
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that same thing happened to me except at 3 AM leaving the hootie bar
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Old 12-12-2008, 03:08 PM
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No drinking here. LOL. I had a 4 wheel alignment done when they put the tires on. I'm thinking it has to be in the tires as it goes away after a time. For the record the car came with Michelin, P205/60R16 91V S8, Energy MXV4s. The new tires aren't Michelins but are V rated. The dealer has offered to get me the same tires that came off the car, they will run about $40 more a tire but I guess that what I get for thinking I was gonna save $160.oo. The new tires were SIPED (HOW IS SIPING DONE?
SIPING is done by placing your tires (new or used) on a specially designed machine that rotates your tires while making small, virtually invisible 90 degree cuts in your tread. Only under very close inspection can the SIPES even be seen, and you're more likely to tell by your improved driving experience than by visual inspection.) If I replace them they will not be SIPED
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Old 12-12-2008, 03:45 PM
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I think "4 wheel alignment" is the key here. The time thing is an oddity but in a normal situation if your car doesn't drive right for the first 30 mins after you get an alignment, you take it back and get them to fix it.

My guess would be that after putting up with it for 90 minutes you just get used to it and compensate better. I would go for a re-alignment (should be free if you can demonstrate the bad driving behavior) before trying anything with the tires...
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Old 12-12-2008, 04:03 PM
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Only noticed at high speed. about 700 miles down the road I went to one of the dealers other stores and they said they never heard of such. Anyway I'm back home and dealing with the store I purchased from and remember I put over 7000 miles on the tires and no problem with the exchange he says. I had the tires on a week b/4 I went on the road trip and around town never had any trouple.
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Old 12-13-2008, 02:48 PM
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v rated a must proper inflation all done I put yokohamas on the same car with no problems the michelins never performed milage wise and will not spend that kind of money for them!
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Old 12-14-2008, 05:04 AM
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Lemme guess..Tire Kingdom or some volume tire retailer? They screw up more alignments than they fix. You went 50,000 miles with normal tire wear..it didn't NEED an alignment.

They sell tires cheap because they do unnecessary extra work to make up for it.
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Old 12-14-2008, 05:29 AM
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billinstuart - 12/14/2008 8:04 AM

Lemme guess..Tire Kingdom or some volume tire retailer? They screw up more alignments than they fix. You went 50,000 miles with normal tire wear..it didn't NEED an alignment.

They sell tires cheap because they do unnecessary extra work to make up for it.
absolutely

Never never never have an alignment done unless you have suspension work that changes the alignment or you have severe wear or driveability problems.

Never heard of siping but I agree - "why would you slash perfectly good tires" -

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/c...s_siping_1.htm

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Old 12-14-2008, 07:44 AM
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Siping aids wet adhesion. I'd never do it on my tires, as it may adversely affect the tread, particularly at higher speeds. Tread is on a tire ONLY for wet conditions, and new tires function pretty well as designed. Then there's the "nitrogen" issue. Sure it's drier than air, but air is 80% nitrogen already. Race cars often use nitrogen in their tires..the main reason? Teams carry compressed nitrogen to run air tools rather than run a compressor. sure, pure nitrogen may expand a little less, but on street tires it is a non-issue.
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Old 12-15-2008, 02:22 AM
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Siping= cutting a brand new tire? No way, far as I would be concerned they ruined a perfectly good set of tires.

What LI Grunt said!
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